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6:03 PM
Oh, and I like my gnome slices extra crispy.
licks lips
 
Chrome updates itself all the time. If you haven't restarted it for a while it'll throw a little icon up on the wrench menu and ask you nicely to.
 
Yeah, that's the one. I've never seen it before, and I've never updated.
 
You have updated, you just didn't know it. :p
It's pretty seamless.
 
That's because Google usually updates Chrome for you without asking unless you kill its background process.
 
Neat.
So, if I obey the arrow, and update, will I lose all of my personalization?
 
6:06 PM
Really? If I said Microsoft did that, people would think it's creepy.
 
@GnomeSlice No.
 
I love that message it pops up. Something along the lines of "Chrome hasn't crashed or been restarted in a long time."
 
Nope, it's just a regular update like all the others you've been receiving. Chrome is just showing you the arrow because the latest one has been waiting for a while (it only updates itself when you restart it)
 
@ArdaXi I didn't get a notification. I just noticed a little green arrow beside my settings, and there's an option to Update Chrome that wasn't there before.
 
6:08 PM
That pop-up is Google's last measure.
Like, when it's been on for like 3 weeks.
 
srs bsns.
 
@GnomeSlice srs bcn
Wait, does that count towards my BQ?
 
bcn s nvr srs.
 
Bacn (pronounced like bacon) is email that has been subscribed to and is therefore not unsolicited, but is often not read by the recipient for a long period of time, if at all. Bacn has been described as "email you want but not right now." Bacn differs from spam in that the recipient has signed up to receive it. Bacn is also not necessarily sent in bulk. Some examples of common bacn messages are news alerts, periodic messages from e-merchants one has made previous purchases with, messages from social networking sites, and wiki watch lists. The name bacn is meant to convey the idea that s...
Yes.
 
@GnomeSlice I think that is suspension worthy.
 
6:09 PM
I have lots of Bacn.
 
How many months, 6 or 12?
 
@badp Moar!
 
@badp Over 9000 hours.
 
@ArdaXi Arda, what's its bacon level?!
 
@Powerlord It's: "What does the diamond say about his bacon level?"
 
6:11 PM
@ArdaXi No, that would be... your mother!
 
Heh. Started rewatching that Futurama episode.
 
@ArdaXi Which?
 
What does it matter? I'll never be a moderator. My life, and by extension everyone else's, is meaningless.
 
@ArdaXi Pssh, my life has meaning. 42 to be exact.
 
@ArdaXi Heh. Too late, hot plate.
 
6:13 PM
Well, the close votes are ready. Maybe blasting this site into a hellstorm of flaming nothingness will cheer me up.
 
@ArdaXi You will be baked and then there will be cake.
Only a month until Portal 2.
That doesn't look right in that typeface
 
This room was placed in timeout for 1 minute; the topic of this room is "bacon." - conversation should be limited to that topic.
 
:P
 
I am confused.
 
6:15 PM
MOD ABUSE!!!
 
MOD ABUSE.
 
I was first!
 
You know most of us can't talk when you do that, right?
 
@badp I'm telling!
 
I go away, and come back to everyone fighting and bacon and arda contemplating turning the powers of his terrible mod to suicidal ends....
 
6:15 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz It's more bacon than usual, you gotta admit.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Everyone loves Ray... er... Bacon.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz @badp isn't my terrible mod.
 
He's the mod? Well, I didn't vote for him!
 
Whoever elected @badp should have thought again.
He's going mad with power.
 
@ArdaXi wait, so you're going to use your terrible mod to convince @badp to you as an elaborate form of suicide?
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6:16 PM
I told you he would at the start!
 
I need to figure out another way to use that tag to keep it from getting pruned.
 
It turns out that badp is the Terrible Secret Of Space.
 
@Powerlord Where is a Pusher Robot when you need one?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz No, no. I'm going to get him to his own diamond, so I can take over and blast this site into a hellstorm of flaming nothingness, which will cheer me up.
 
At some point, I should edit some sound files together to make GLaDOS make some new and interesting things.
 
6:18 PM
@Powerlord Might as well wait that month.
 
The part where I pretended I was going to murder you is not a part of this test.
 
But I'm afraid that if I use that tag again in a question, it will ruin its effect.
 
@Powerlord Or, combine AT&T's TTS engine with (whatever that sound editing programme was called)
@GnomeSlice Did I ever thank you for making one of my top tags?
 
@ArdaXi Top tags?
I don't believe you.
 
New users page.
 
6:20 PM
Erm... one sec.
 
So you found me. Was it worth it? Because, despite your best efforts, the only thing you've managed to break so far is my weighted companion cube.
 
Well, not anymore.
 
@Powerlord "violent behavior"
 
@ArdaXi Is that like, tagged questions you have the most upvotes in?
 
@badp I'm going from memory here, and apparently I never get that line right.
 
6:21 PM
It's okay.
 
@GnomeSlice For that week/month/quarter/year/all-time, yes.
 
In the absence of a safe testing environment, the blah blah helpful advice. For example, the weighted companion cube will murder you.
 
4 mins ago, by Powerlord
At some point, I should edit some sound files together to make GLaDOS make some new and interesting things.
@Powerlord is musing about how a terrible mod of his would look like. He is not, however, going to make one.
 
er... make her SAY some new and interesting things.
 
Anyone bored want to un-capslock this?
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A: Is it possible to reach Max Stats in Fallout: New Vegas?

Ben TysonTHE ANSWER TO THE TITLE QUESTION IS: NO, AS IT STANDS THERE IS NO OBVIOUS WAY TO MAX YOUR STATS WITHOUT CHEATING. PRETTY MUCH THE CLOSEST YOU CAN COME BY MY CALCULATION IS S 6 P 10 E 9 C 4 I 10 A 9 L 9 SKILLS: TOTAL 1022 POINTS SKILL POINTS AVERAGE PER SKILL 78.62 OR IN THEORETICAL NOT ...

 
6:24 PM
@Powerlord
 
Although for making people say new and interesting things, TF2 is great.
 
Skip to around 4:40
@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh jeez...
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Done.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm on it.
 
@badp Don't bother.
 
6:25 PM
What's "E", "C", "I", "A" and "L"?
Constitution Intelligence Luck and?
 
Those are the stats.
 
Yeah, I figured
 
Agility?
 
Endurance.
 
Apathy.
 
6:26 PM
Thanks
 
@badp Strength Perception Endurance Charisma Intelligence Agility Luck
 
+3 to Apathy stat!
 
S.P.E.C.I.A.L.
 
@GnomeSlice That's my SPECIALity.
 
6:35 PM
adds to the mod abuse counter
1 message moved to Code Review
 
@badp You've seriously got to stop doing that so haphazardly.
Especially since you just migrated it to the wrong room.
 
It is not.
 
Migrate it to the Cooking SE chat. Just for kicks.
 
@badp It should've gone to SO.
 
SO chat or Programmers would have been better choices, I think.
 
6:36 PM
@ArdaXi Not really, we're reviewing Gnome's code.
 
@AnnaLear Thank you.
 
Isn't it the whole point of Code Review?
 
@badp No, that's not what we're doing.
We're helping @GnomeSlice understand how IsNaN works.
 
Regardless, people complained when I made an SO room on chat.SE, and it's now frozen, so no migration to SO.
Neext.
(Weight given to complaints is inversely proportional to their volume, roughly.)
 
@badp Code Review is for working code. Style improvements, that sort of thing. General discussions and "how do I fix a problem, here's my code" aren't on topic there, IIRC.
So anyway... how about that... uh... what do people play these days? :)
 
6:39 PM
I was playing TF2, now that @Powerlord generously gifted it to me, but now I'm grounded games-wise as my computer is under warranty.
 
Magicka? :)
 
@AnnaLear Fair enough, will keep in mind in the future.
 
Honestly,
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Q: Is it possible to reach Max Stats in Fallout: New Vegas?

LukaszStarting SPECIAL STR 5, PER 5, END 5, CHA 1, INT 10, AGL 5, LUK 9 (Same as 10 when it comes to skill points) Now you can improve your SPECIAL stats in the following ways; STR: +1 Implant PER: +1 Trait (Four Eyes) +1 Implant END: +1 Perk (Intense Training) +1 Implant CHA: +0 INT: +0 AGL: +1 Tra...

 
Well, on the other hand, the Code Review room is deserted anyway, so nobody will notice. (People seriously need to stop adding feeds to rooms without a sufficient chat volume to prevent the scrollback from turning into a ghetto Google Reader)
 
seems like a good candidate for protection.
 
6:41 PM
I have gaming ADD... splitting my time (unsuccessfully, mind) between Gears of War 2, WoW, Fable 3, Fallout New Vegas, and NFS. Well, and a few others.
 
@AnnaLear Which NFS?
 
Hot Pursuit, mostly.
I also have Underground and Pro Street kicking around. Killing time till Shift 2 comes out.
 
@AnnaLear Gears of War 3 is due out soon, as I recall.
 
Oh, I see. I haven't actually played any of those NFS titles.
 
@Powerlord Yeah, sometime in 2011. :)
 
6:42 PM
I'm more of a fan of Burnout
 
Must be especially challenging for a cat. Or does your pet human assist you in that?
 
I've been playing the WoW auction house game lately. It's a game within a game!
 
(I mean, you're the cat there, right? :P)
 
@Brant The Auctioneer addon helps with that one!
 
@Brant It's the best game within a game.
 
6:43 PM
Nah, I discovered TradeSkillMaster.
 
Also pffft @ Auctioneer. So TBC.
 
It's Auctioneer without the ridiculously obtuse UI
 
@Brant Yeah, that's what I do too. Log on to do a couple quests and next thing I know it's 2 hours later and I'm still on my bank alt.
 
(not that TSM is much better, but at least it's understandable)
 
When I played WoW (before any of the expansions), I too enjoyed the auction house game
 
6:44 PM
TradeSkillMaster does a great job of speeding up/automating all the busywork involved in that stuff.
 
@badp The human comes in handy... opposable thumbs make it a lot easier to use the xbox controller. ;)
 
Click to scan your auctions for undercutters, run to the mailbox and back, click to repost your auctions. Click to scan for mats to re-craft what you sold. Click to re-craft. Click to post 'em.
(* Well, okay, there's some mouse-wheel-rolling in there to sidestep the "each action must be triggered by user input" restriction, but it's pretty much straightforward)
 
I don't craft. I resell. Personal fav from the weekend: picked up a recipe for 80 copper, sold for 20g.
Also much <3 for people who don't realize they're posting stuff at a lower buyout than what they'd get from a vendor.
 
Heh. I like that.
 
I tend to do very high margin low volume crafting stuff. Things like old level 60 enchants that work on heirloom gear are my bread and butter.
(It helps that my main has every enchant in the game.)
 
6:50 PM
Nice. I supplement resale income with netherweave bags.
 
I'm doing tailoring/enchanting on my priest alt, but mainly to disenchant.
Inscription is my moneymaker.
 
@Brant Does it still work well now that glyphs only have to be bought once?
 
Well, it does on my server.
 
@AnnaLear It works better than ever.
The margins for glyphs has gone through the roof.
 
I think because people haven't caught on that the standard glyph markup is something like 1000%.
 
6:51 PM
Nice. Out of curiosity, which servers are you guys on?
 
You know how much raw material you need to make a glyph? ~5 level-appropriate herbs. Seriously. Do the math.
 
@Brant Yeah, unless you happen to have a bunch of obscure old world reps maxed, and a high tolerance for running AQ and MC, I wouldn't reccomend my path to lots of gold.
I play on Ysera mostly.
 
Aerie Peak here
 
@Brant Or ~5 max level herbs for that matter.
Now that there's an ink trader in SW/Org.
 
Silver Hand here
I might have to resurrect my scribe. I haven't looked at crafting as a money-maker since pre-Cata. Got busy around Christmas and completely lost track of markets.
 
6:54 PM
Start doing your daily research now if you are, it takes a while to finish it all.
The glyph books are nice, but the important thing is volume, not margin
As long as you've got one of every glyph you can craft up for sale you're guaranteed to be moving something.
It's all about how many recipes you know.
 
Cool. Thanks for the tip.
 
Obviously, having some kind of auction addon suite helps.
Usually I'm juggling around 170-230 auctions at a time, it'd be murder to do it manually
 
Yeah. I've made my peace with auctioneer.
 
and I only bother listing one glyph at a time per type
After recipe count, the only trick is to relist and undercut often. Whichever scribe on the server checks the AH most frequently makes the most money, more or less.
I relisted daily after work last week and made around 15k, which is probably pocket change these days, but I'm just leveling alts (not raiding) so all I need to pay for is riding skills
 
I'm gonna have to level up an alt for inscription, I think.
something to do when I go on a business trip next week. :P
 
7:05 PM
@AnnaLear Nice thing with inscription is that you only need to get to 65 to make 90% of the money from it
so it makes a good DK-Mule profession
there is very little money to be made from 450+ items unless you want to get into the darkmoon card game.
 
Good to know.
 
Aye, none of the glyphs (save one they added a few weeks ago) require Cata inks, there's nothing up at that level but offhands/relics and the gambling cards
which are breakeven on my server so I don't bother
And seriously, screw trying to put together a Darkmoon deck.
 
7:22 PM
One nice thing in WoW for money while you're leveling is that world treasure chests in the old world ALWAYS drop blue loot now.
However, they are also level restricted.
 
I can't decide if I want to upvote or downvote that cosplay question.
 
You can't open them if you're > 5 levels above the zone's top end level.
 
@Arda Come baaaaaack.
 
btw, am I the only person ever who actually tried to learn to make every Inscription Minor Glyph?
 
@Powerlord I haven't. :) Although I don't think that's as insane as stuff like trying to get every cooking recipe.
 
7:25 PM
@AnnaLear Well, you keep having to do the once-a-day Minor Inscription Research... which I think shares a cooldown with Northrend Inscription Research.
 
@Powerlord Wat? I opened several of them while I was running around doing loremaster cheebs on my level 85 rogue...
 
You have to do it well after it turns grey, as DK minors don't appear unless you have 275 Inscription or higher.
 
@AnnaLear Erm... I've done that.
Thistle Tea? Check. Dirge's Chimaerok Chops? Check.
 
@LessPopMoreFizz Respect. :)
My one and only grind achievement is hitting Loremaster pre-Cata.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I tried opening certain ones when I was level 55 in... Felwood, I think, and it was giving me errors about it.
I forget the exact message, but it was basically telling me I was too high level.
Felwood being 40-45 now, iirc
I still find it funny that you can level through Archaeology. My priest went from 61-65 doing so.
I still haven't been to Outlands on him.
 
7:29 PM
@Powerlord MIR and NIR are on separate cooldowns.
 
@Powerlord Archaeology is more engaging than Outland.
 
@Powerlord How long does that take?
 
@AnnaLear Who cares, it's less boring than Zangarmarsh?
 
@AnnaLear A few days... I was mostly doing it to get Archeaology to 300 before Outlands.
Have I mentioned I don't really like Outlands?
 
Ah, but you'd be on a blue flying mount, wouldn't you? Almost as painful as Zangarmarsh.
 
7:30 PM
@GnomeSlice Whyyyyyy
 
@Brant Actually, I think it is Blue.
 
@LessPopMoreFizz Archaeology is pretty soul-sucking
I'd rather level through fishing. If I could.
 
@ArdaXi Because I thought maybe you were still in the other room, and I was gone.
 
No epic flying until 70. And Northrend isn't all that bad.
 
@AnnaLear I think you can.
 
7:31 PM
@GnomeSlice I wasn't anywhere.
 
@AnnaLear You certainly can through Mining/Herbalism if you wanted to.
 
Very true.
 
Yeah, herbs/rocks actually give half decent xp.
 
The real point here is that just about anything is more engaging than Zangarmarsh.
 
But hey, that character had like 1500 gold when I hit 60, so I purchased flying, Azeroth flying, and whatever the Org flying mount vendor was selling.
 
7:31 PM
Seriously, fuck Zangarmarsh.
 
I think I actually disliked Terrokar Forest more than Zangarmarsh.
 
I actually hate lower levels now more than I hate BC.
 
I did all of hellfire > a bit of nagrand > almost all of blade's edge on my priest
that was enough to get me to 68
 
@AnnaLear The new old world isn't that bad.
 
The zones are fine, quests are great, whatever. I don't know what half of them are cause I outlevel them too quickly.
 
7:33 PM
1-60 is pretty damn good now.
Outland is the most out-of-date content in the game, quest design-wise
 
Best quest in the old world (that I know of): Horde, as you enter Hillsbrad Foothills the first time
 
And quest design has come a long way since Outland.
 
And to think that Outland used to be an improvement back when it came out. :)
 
@Powerlord Are you thinking of the Plants Vs. Zombies minigame? because that's faction agnostic.
 
And yes, I'm talking about the quest where you hand out quests.
 
7:34 PM
Oh that one.
 
I started a new alt to check out the new old world. And it bugs me that I got maybe 5 quests in at the Barrens before it all went grey. Regularly running dungeons really tosses you out of the zone level brackets.
 
I'm filthy alliance :(
 
@Powerlord I duno man, Corporal John J. Keeshan's adventures in Redridge are pretty goddamned amazing.
Driving around a tank while he blows up Orcs screaming 'THERE ARE NO INNOCENT CIVILLIANS' was pretty great.
 
@AnnaLear You can quest entirely on one continent now, 1-60, without running out of zones.
 
@Brant The quest I'm referring to has you act as a quest-giver to 3 NPCs... and later in the zone you have to do said quests for them.... as well as rescue them.
 
7:36 PM
:( The people who bought the Evil Genius IP released a social game.
 
@AnnaLear Yeah, the XP in 5 mans is tuned way too high.
 
Heck, it's easy to outlevel zones just by going through them.
 
I was originally Horde, and my friend and I made alts on some random server to see what the lesser faction's quests were like. A few years later those alts are my new mains. I miss Thunder Bluff.
Where you can almost stand in range of the auctioneer and the mailbox at the same time.
While mounted.
 
@Brant TRAITOR! Garosh will throw you off a cliff!
 
I'm all for fast levelling, but I think they went too far in the "moar xp" direction. Everything gives XP now. Then again, I'm one of those people who actually like to level. :P
 
7:38 PM
I deliberately avoided joining a guild and using heirlooms until I hit outland because I didn't want the XP bonuses
and I stayed on Kalimdor
 
Or, rather, if I'm going to level at all, I typically level a new (to me) class and I'd like to learn to play while I'm doing it.
 
I still skipped a couple zones entirely just because of the dungeon xp.
 
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Q: Is it okay to have a StackExchange site that is a subset of another one?

Oscar MederosFor example: Would it be okay to ask a code improvement/review question on StackOverflow rather than asking it on CodeReview? Shouldn't this kind of questions be moved CodeReview? If not, I don't know what is the idea of having another StackExchange site if you can ask that question on another...

 
@LessPopMoreFizz I meant to ask earlier, what are these methods of yours that require running AQ?
Just out of curiosity anyway.
 
@Brant Enchants that are popular on BoA items.
@Brant Specifically, 'Stealth' to Cloak, +4 stats to chest, +29/+30 Spellpower to weapon, +22 Int to weapon, etc. etc.
 
7:52 PM
oh, I was wondering where those spellpower enchants came from.
 
@Brant Spellpower is from MC
 
What item level are BoAs usually?
 
So what's soloable now at 85? I heard a DK could do MC at 80...
 
@Powerlord 1
@Brant Pretty much any vanilla content.
@Brant Also Magtheridon, and Karazhan are soloable and fantastic gold runs
(they're actually both having their gold drop rates nerfed in 4.1)
 
I miss old-school 40-man raids.
I don't miss spec restrictions they imposed, but otherwise...
 
7:56 PM
I think it was a good move to switch to 25. In a 40 man raid I never felt like I mattered except in an abstract sense.
Then again, I've never raided since vanilla...I did a 10-man kara run once, but we never got past the warden
 
Frankly, I wish Blizz would make all raid content accessible via 5-mans and just give weaker loot. I don't raid for the gear, I raid for the story and the social aspects. However, getting 10 people I know coordinated to raid on a regular basis has historically proven to be annoying more than anything else.
 
8:28 PM
Hell, I can't even find 5 people. I need more friends.
 
I'm not on often enough to really get to know people. My guild's pretty cool, though, so I sometimes join in for raids as a sub.
 
I wish you could do cross-server premade dungeon groups.
Especially now that we have RealStalk
 
RealStalk? Like RealID?
 
That's what I meant.
 
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Q: Where do I suggest new Stack Exchange sites?

JeffGIs there an appropriate place to suggest new Stack Exchange based sites, perhaps a place for them to be voted upon? I wish there was a Stack Exchange site for Aviation (both real-life and simulated).

 
8:31 PM
@Powerlord I think that was meant to be ironic.
 
@Feeds @GraceNote You need to think of us before you go applying willy-nilly like that!
 
@Brant Yeah, that'd be cool. I spent way too much money on server transfers (with little to show for it, since Murphy's Law applies to WoW in one main area: the second you transfer to another server to play with friends after they've been nagging you for weeks to do so, said friends stop logging on.)
 
cowers
I don't know what's scarier: that The Bridge is now considered a distinct entity akin to The Tavern on MSO, or that I'm considered a representative sample of said entity.
 
@Brant Bacon.
 
8:47 PM
'sup
 
@Mana I need more Mana!
 
eh
 
Mana is rapidly disappearing. :/
 
true
 
@Mana: Emperor Julius was looking for you.
 
8:50 PM
Dark Lord > Julius
 
anyone played the new DF with grazing animals yet?
 
@GraceNote I love how you always find new way to enrage us. Especially me.
recalls an incident with stars and daggers
 
tries, fails
 
@Mana What are you failing at this time?
 
eh
many things
 
8:55 PM
So what were you referring to?
 
he can't recall the incident you're referring to
 
Funny. It does involve you, @Mana.
 
is it the terrible mod thing
 
What else?
 
yay
 
8:56 PM
@Mana You still suck for having said it.
 
yeah
 
@Mana Not a good thing.
 
alright
 
So, who thinks @badp should get a new computer?
Speaking of which, I need to file my taxes within the next month.
Since the government likely owes me money...
 
@Powerlord Why?
 
9:00 PM
@Powerlord Those who are holding my computer in warranty
and would've much rather have me buy a new one
 
@Mana ran out again.
We need @Mana potions.
 
Bob
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Q: Confirm my WoW CD key

ColenHello, I bought 2 copies of WoW when it launched, and gave one to a friend. He has since lost his CD key, and needs it to recover his account or some such. Unfortunately I didn't make a note of whose key was whose. Is there any way I can confirm which of the CD keys was used to activate my acco...

 
9:15 PM
@Brant I tried reopening the Aviary (= a really heavy Web-bish image editor) project I made the lazer firing mothership with, but I then needed to open up the lazer layer in Peacock (= another really heavy Web-bish effect editor) and everything locked up
Since I could not appy the pixelation image to the image, please apply the pixelation effect to your own eyes. Thank you.
 
Is it just me or are y'all snarkier than usual?
 
pokes himself in the eye Ow. Done.
 
@CRoss Bravo, give the man a prize.
 
9:31 PM
sad times friends
finally found a guy at work to play TF2 with
and my video card on my laptop died :(
 
@espais NOOOOOO.... er OK
I would say people here could play TF2 on OCR's servers, but the servers' busy time is usually late evening in North America, or middle of the night in Europe.
 
Bob
9:54 PM
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Q: poor man's GFX Card and latest games?

Dany VldzWell, as a university student, i am always on the budget, so, is it there a poor man's gfx card that can withstand the requirements of the latest /not so latest games Like Call of duty 6 and Battlefield Bad Company 2 I am willing to spend at least 180dlls cash. The only pc store i have near me i...

 
@Brant I hope the world looks better now
 

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