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12:00 AM
@ArdaXi You know that indiegames.com is behind it, right?
So what if they took a good idea and did it again?
 
not to mention the humble bundles are based mostly around the charity
all props to the devs/studios that give their games away (contributing to devs is entirely optional), but I can understand wanting the guarantee of some payout
 
@GnomeSlice They took a good idea and took all that was good about it out of it.
 
@ArdaXi If you say so.
 
@GnomeSlice Basically, it costs more, and no money goes to charities.
So they make more money.
Ripping off an idea is one thing. If the only changes you make are so that you make more money, you lose all respect from me.
 
> The website has been set up by the creators of leading independent video game editorial site IndieGames.com and the makers of notable online download service Desura as a joint venture. We know our indie games (a little too much, some might say) and we know the games that are worth playing.

The point of Indie Royale is to put the spotlight on those indie titles which provide fantastic experiences, but may well have been passed over by a good portion of the mainstream gaming public. If you purchase an Indie Royale bundle, you can be safe in the knowledge that you're not only getting four b
 
12:04 AM
@GnomeSlice Desura's going the way of EA? Lovely.
@GnomeSlice That's basically the same pitch of the Humble Bundle, with all reference to charities removed.
 
@ArdaXi Yes, indieroyale is about supporting developers, humble bundle is mostly about charity.
 
1,739/1,740
what a tease
 
@ArdaXi Yes they are forking the idea, which is not necessarily a bad idea, but I don't think it's a massive DRM push, which Origin seems to be.
 
@GnomeSlice That's not what I said at all.
2 mins ago, by Arda Xi
Ripping off an idea is one thing. If the only changes you make are so that you make more money, you lose all respect from me.
 
@ArdaXi ...No...? I did?
 
12:06 AM
@GnomeSlice Then what's with the "yes" if you're contradicting me?
Humble Bundle isn't mostly about charity.
I'm just saying that IR is more about making money than the Humble Bundle is.
 
Whatever, it's the difference between the two.
 
So IndieRoyale have nothing to offer over the Humble Bundle except greed.
 
@ArdaXi So? It's a business.
 
@ArdaXi ouch
 
@ArdaXi Different games...?
 
12:07 AM
@GnomeSlice I'm talking about the concept.
Individually, you can't compare them at all.
 
And I have 21 health. Fuck
 
@GnomeSlice It's a business taking someone else's concept and trying to make more money off it. That's a very questionable move in my opinion.
 
@ArdaXi Yes you have a point, but it seems that humble bundle is also trying to push the concept to the limits with the rapidity of it's releases.
 
@ArdaXi See, I got that vibe from Muffin Knight, but not from IndieRoyale.
 
@GnomeSlice I have no idea what that is. Anyway, other than different games, what does IndieRoyale have to offer over the Humble Bundle?
 
12:11 AM
@ArdaXi Muffin Knight is a blatant ripoff of Super Crate Box, and it's not free like the original.
@ArdaXi I don't know? Isn't it all about the games?
 
4 mins ago, by Arda Xi
@GnomeSlice I'm talking about the concept.
4 mins ago, by Arda Xi
Individually, you can't compare them at all.
 
Whatever. You're right, I'm wrong.
 
In this case, it's not about the games, no. It's about the business.
@GnomeSlice Don't you dare. I'm just talking about IR, not about you.
 
@GnomeSlice well, that ends that
 
You're right about IR, and I'm wrong about IR...?
I just don't feel like arguing about it any more.
 
12:15 AM
@GnomeSlice You're falling into that defeatist attitude that makes me look like the bad guy for talking. It's very, very annoying.
 
There's no good guy bad guy here at all.
I just... am trying to focus on something, and arguing is making that hard.
 
@GnomeSlice There was a couple of days ago...
 
@ArdaXi No, there wasn't. Well, yeah, I was the bad guy.
 
@GnomeSlice You're twisting my words.
 
@ArdaXi I mean I was the bad guy for acting like you were the bad guy.
That was bad of me.
Jesus. I can't even take responsibility for myself without getting picked apart.
 
12:17 AM
It's because you're not actually taking responsibility.
 
HABEAS CORPUS, SHOW ME THE TURTLE.
 
You're just circumventing the whole thing with self-deprecation.
 
@ArdaXi What whole thing?
The argument?
I don't want to continue the argument.
Hence the circumventing.
 
6 mins ago, by GnomeSlice
Whatever. You're right, I'm wrong.
This.
 
That was supposed to stop the argument.
/discussion.
 
12:19 AM
@GnomeSlice What, seriously?
 
@ArdaXi ...Yes?
It's the equivalent of 'giving up'.
 
You're painting me as someone who only cares about being right.
 
What?
Well...
 
Which is what I've been called in here many times.
 
I suppose... you DO kind of come off that way an awful lot.
 
12:20 AM
Strangely, it's only been after I've talked to you.
 
I guess it takes one to know one? I don't know? I hate losing arguments.
 
You're turning it into some kind of me vs. you thing.
Which is never my intention.
 
No... I'm not.
 
I don't care about losing arguments.
 
I DO.
@Mana can tell you.
 
12:21 AM
And it's my responsibility to accommodate you because of that?
 
Okay, this boss's got me stumped
 
..
...
...No.
 
It really is a serious boss.
 
@GnomeSlice People are going to disagree with you. People who actually know what they're talking about, unlike me.
 
12:23 AM
Who's self-deprecating now?
 
got to go, please shake hands and make up
 
Okay my keyboard is working again
 
It wasn't?
 
@GnomeSlice There's a difference between self-deprecating and meta-cognitive.
 
I'm sure there is, but since I have no idea what that means, I'll have to take your word for it.
 
12:25 AM
I know that most things, I know next to nothing about.
That doesn't mean I won't talk about them.
How else would I learn anything?
Self-deprecating: "I don't know anything about this. Leave me alone." Meta-cognitive: "I don't know anything about this, but I want to learn."
 
You wouldn't, and you'd end up like me.
 
Getting frustrated over arguments isn't a good idea.
 
I'M TRYING TO FINISH A FINAL FOR SCHOOL
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
I have five finals coming up in a week man.
 
...So?
 
12:26 AM
@GnomeSlice So close the chat window. It's not that difficult.
 
...
 
But then you WIN.
I'm half hungarian.
Which means I always need to have the last word.
always.
 
...you are?
 
My mother is fully hungarian.
 
huh.
 
12:27 AM
She was born here in Canada though.
 
@GnomeSlice Not at all. What do I 'win', exactly?
 
She's white, in case you're confusing Hungary with some other country.
Jesus Christ, I'm such a dickhead.
Sep 30 at 18:48, by Mana
> Fuck you.
Thanks @Man.
 
Wait, you quoted me from two months ago! What was even the context of that?
oh
I see
haha I remember that
good times
Hey, they're playing your favorite remix at the NASL right now.
 
@Mana Void Rays?
Also, I love how the first thing I did when I returned to my computer is starred @gnome's comment about him being a dickhead.
 
@Wipqozn naw, a remix of Lights by Ellie Goulding.
@Wipqozn well you missed Thorzain beating Morrow
 
12:39 AM
@GnomeSlice You could just resume the debate at a later time.
 
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Q: What's the deal with rings in Skyrim?

Mark TrappI've been collecting a lot of valuable rings that I'd like to just sell, but I'm not sure if there's value in holding onto some of them. This is what I understand: You can only have one ring equipped at a time You can enchant rings just like armor and weapons Are all rings created equal for ...

 
the contents of two of the three games Thorzain won can be summed up as follows: wroom wroom
 
Unlike what you might think, @ArdaXi debates purely for the thrill of the debate. He doesn't care whether he wins or loses. He likes the debate itself.
 
which is exactly how Morrow summed it up in-game chat after losing game 4.
 
Therefore he has no problem suspended an argument to resume later.
 
12:40 AM
@Wipqozn More importantly, I see debate as the best way to learn anything.
 
@ArdaXi I agree.
 
@Mana I have no idea what the context was, I just linked the first result I got in chat search.
 
@GnomeSlice man that's awful
I probably seem like such an awful person going through my chat history out of context.
 
Oh shit.
 
I don't like taking a stance on an issue until I debate it with another person. Since normally that can bring up different parts of the issue you didn't even consider, or may reveal to you that you're view was biased.
 
12:42 AM
It was a quote of you... quoting me.
Well, that backfired dinnit...
 
@Mana You're an awful person in context.
3
Err I mean, you're a great guy @Mana! Not a corrupt mod at all.
 
@GnomeSlice Wait, you didn't realize that? That's hilarious.
2
 
No, I just searched the phrase to get one from you.
Since you said it on Facebook.
 
@Wipqozn Even more so, if someone talks to me about something I'm not sure about, I often find myself taking the opposite stance just to facilitate making my mind up.
 
That is hilarious.
 
12:43 AM
@ArdaXi Yeah, that's a good way of doing it.
 
boom. looks like I'm getting a new feature.
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Q: Can I see things that I've said in chat that have been starred?

agent86I was reviewing the star on chat.SE list this morning and I noticed that quite a few of the items on the list were mine. I was curious as to how often people enjoy the things I post there enough to star them, but I can't seem to find statistics about this anywhere. Mana told me that no such fea...

 
Oh man.
I would love that feature.
Why didn't I think of that?
 
@agent86 Wow. I didn't think they would implement that.
 
It's a common thing. It's called devil's advocate. It's a way of stopping stupid ideas being implicated.
 
@RonanForman I resent that.
Trololol.
 
12:46 AM
@Wipqozn I win +1 internets.
 
@GnomeSlice Clever girl.
 
San Andreas is much too addicting, I have decided.
 
Aeo
@Wipqozn How do you tell it's planned to be implemented?
 
@Aeo a comment by on of the Stack Exchange devs
> Interesting. It probably isnt hard to do... One for next week, maybe
 
I can't tell if I'm satisfied or disappointed to find out that my two most starred links were my two gaming splash screen uploads.
 
Aeo
12:47 AM
Ahhh
 
And that's Serious Sam 3. Completed in just about 5 hours above par.
 
Closely followed by this:
Oct 30 at 21:09, by GnomeSlice
user image
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1,107th place in global classifications
 
@GnomeSlice Would you prefer it to be something which makes you look like a jerk?
 
1st on my friends list. Out of 1.
 
12:48 AM
EA. The embodiment of DRM.
@badp That's practically impossible for me.
 
I'm sad at how few links are here that have more than 2 stars...
 
@ArdaXi Buy more obscure games.
 
@badp Or less friends.
 
@ArdaXi Buying friends doesn't sound wise, yeah.
 
So, I was just checking out your steam aliases @badp and...
> i am a dumb nong
 
12:50 AM
I'm 1st of my friends list, but usually it isn't out of 1.
@Wipqozn Good ol' Somerville.
 
@Wipqozn I blame an australian for that
 
@Gnome Well I don't post links that often.
 
That's how he needed to make a point about XSS from Steam
 
@RonanForman That's a list of links posted by me.
 
He's a fan of XSS.
 
12:51 AM
@GnomeSlice that gif is win.
 
@Gnome I said that before seeing the link. I thought you meant here as in the bridge.
 
Just found the Minecraft server.
 
lol
 
@Wipqozn That's exactly how staticians work.
 
12:54 AM
That also came from my 'most starred links' list.
Aug 21 at 1:29, by GnomeSlice ツ
user image
 
@GnomeSlice I know, that's where I got it from.
 
Sep 22 at 22:41, by GnomeSlice
Robin is complaining about Facebook changes. The biggest one is probably that I hacked his password and deleted his account.
 
Some guy tha that could crush your face at word with friends.
 
$20 says he was using a cheating tool.
 
Or photoshopped<
 
12:58 AM
That's pretty neat though.
 
but still epic.
 
How could it say that? I'd doesn't even have a voice box!
 
Should watch the wool race.
FOR TWO HOURS?
 
Not in one go.
 
BEING BORED SATURDAY NIGHT GO!
 
Oak
12:59 AM
Wee London
@Ronan so far, not that cold :)
 
If you guys do other adventure maps take some shorter. Could be useful.
 
@Oak This time last year it was snowing.
 
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Q: What is the practice regimin for the pro StarCraft 2 player?

lucidquietI'm wondering how pro StarCraft 2 players practice. I mean if compared to something like a physical sport there might be some calisthenic, run some drills, etc. It seems like one might also want to re-run certain engagements over and over again (how would somebody do that?) like drills.

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Q: How to defeat the final boss, Ugh-Zan IV?

badpMost bosses in the game can be defeated simply with enough gun, and if that don't work, use more gun. The helicopter "boss" needs a little more finesse, but middle clicking during the fight fires up Netresca, which explains how to defeat the bastard. The final boss also gets some help from Netr...

 
It is snowing.
For me.
 
We had snow 2 weeks ago in quebec.
Melted in the week.
 
1:01 AM
We've had snow a few times. Seems like it's been melting away.
 
Where are you from?
 
Oak
@RonanForman I am disappoint. I want snow!
 
This snow took about 3 weeks to melt. For all but 2 days it was black ice.
 
@Fredy31 Ottawa.
 
@GnomeSlice Send some snow down to Oshawa please
 
1:03 AM
Well, outside of Ottawa.
 
@Oak You really don't. In england snow grinds the entire country to a halt.
 
This boss is ridiculous.
 
Oak
@RonanForman what, even the tube? Because that's mostly what I need
 
Well the tube is crap anyway, so...
What brings you to England anyway?
 
Oak
Really? After riding the NY subway a couple of months ago, it feels very new and clean :)
@RonanForman internship
 
1:05 AM
@RonanForman pffft, weaklings!
 
Has anyone else here tried out Bionic Commando: Rearmed?
It's amazing.
 
giggle someone linked to me.
 
@RonanForman Oh?
Oh.
 
@GnomeSlice Mana has.
 
1:08 AM
I know.
 
does gaming.stackexchange.com have an official youtube channel?
 
@Fredy31 No.
Er...
Maybe.
 
Oak
@Fredy31 not YET
@GnomeSlice really?
 
But we do have THIS!
 
1:09 AM
Yeah, was thinking it would be great for the race for wool thing
 
@Oak Not sure, I remember some 'stack exchane at MW3 release' vids being linked.
 
/shameless plug.
 
Not sure if that's on a gaming.se channel or not.
 
@Fredy Were getting an unofficial one, and out next adventure map's going on that.
 
@Fredy31 By they way, what do you think of this?
Haven't heard any input from you on it.
 
1:10 AM
I love it.
And would like to get involved too
 
:D Huzzah!
 
Oak
@GnomeSlice I like the previous one better.... on account of it being short. Yours is high on the awesome scale, but it feels too long
 
@Oak Not when it's in front of a 30 minute video.
 
@GnomeSlice oh, so @Fredy31 is the new user who just signed up. Nifty.
 
I can see the point, but the long intro is a little more representative
 
Oak
1:12 AM
@GnomeSlice that helps, but not all videos will be like that
 
On the MC server @Wipqozn?
 
@Fredy31 That's what I was thinking. I wanted something definable.
 
@Fredy31 bookFace
 
@Gnome Any more videos I record will be no longer than 15 minutes.
 
@Oak 'Game On!' videos probably will be.
At any rate, I still have the project files.
 
1:12 AM
Oh yes.
Frederic Pilon, thats me
 
If ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY I can speed it up a bit.
I really don't think it's that bad though.
 
@Fredy31 I'm one of the admins of the group, so I'm notified whenever someone like sit.
@GnomeSlice A little shorter might be better.
 
Oak
@GnomeSlice nothing is necessary, I'm just voicing my opinion; I might be wrong, of course :)
Anyway it's ridiculously late in my internal clock's timezone. Night!
 
@Oak Unfortunately, you're not the first to say something along those lines.
=[
 
I never thought about it until @Oak brought it up, but 15 seconds is a little long.
I agree it is nice though.
 
1:14 AM
Wanted to do a gaming.se Guild on Swtor,
Would be cool to be on the same server as everybody.
 
@Wipqozn Should we start a sign up place for the next map. I'm hoping to get at least 6 on a team so managing people will be best done early.
 
@RonanForman Put a board on the gaming.SE server and have people put signs on it.
 
You would stick to VS maps?
 
With their name.
 
@RonanForman When should we set it for?
the 16th/17th/18th would be the best time for me
 
1:15 AM
I imagine you have a vent or something
 
in the sense I'll be done exams
@Fredy31 I believe @FallenAngelEyes is in the beta
 
@Wipqozn No idea. Although I was also thinking of a Christmas themed building competition at some point.
 
@RonanForman That would be nifty.
 
@Wipqozn If you talk swtor I am too.
 
@Fredy31 IF you mean what ronan and I are discussing, we mean Minecraft.
I have no intention of buying TOR myself
 
1:17 AM
But well for VS maps of MC, you should be able to see the other side too.
 
Anyway it's kind of late. I'll talk tomorrow.
 
So if I'm in a video of minecraft
TIME TO FIND THE BEST. SKIN. EVAR.
 
@Fredy31 I'm a cylon at the moment.
 
@GnomeSlice Did you ever finish you Santa claus minecraft skin?
 
Think I might switch back to the Green Lantern, thought.
 
1:18 AM
@Fredy A word of warning, if our next map is the Capture the wool map. Your skin must either be RGB or CMY.
 
@Wipqozn Voxatron, and it was finished when I linked it.
@RonanForman Er...
Oh, I get it.
 
@ronanForman did you just do it?
 
@GnomeSlice I thought Voxatron was just another name for Minecraft?
 
That's not correct at all.
 
I'm a terrible person, I really am.
 
1:19 AM
They're the two teams. We could use red and blue as that would be more distinguishable.
 
@NickT, what's your comment about on this question?
 
I'm proud of it though, and that's what matters.
 
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Q: How do I use the cruise control?

AeoIn Saint's Row 2, I made extensive use of the cruise control for those drive-and-shoot missions. I seem to remember being told I could use cruise control in Saint's Row 3, but I can't seem to figure out how. How do you work it?

 
@agent86 I'm assuming he had caps lock on, and was too lazy to turn it off.
 
I think red and blue are a better choice of teams.
 
1:22 AM
keep asking SR3 questions, people. I eat questions like those for breakfast
 
:p
 
lunch though, that's strictly pasta. eating questions for breakfast is not very filling, surprisingly.
 
KEEP ASKING ACR ONES... 80% OF MY SCORE IS FROM THAT.
 
@agent86 If you keep this up you may become Gaming's version of Jon Skeet.
 
@Wipqozn the comparison has been made. As long as I get my unicorn painting, I'm good.
I've also been promised telekinesis.
 
1:24 AM
I'm RED LINK!
yayzor
 
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Q: When phone calls stop you from jumping through car windows, there's something wrong

AeoI am growing extremely tired of running up to a car, right before jumping through the windshield/passenger/driver side window and as I'm hitting the button to get in... I get a phone call, and hit the button. Instead of jumping, I answer the call. Waiting around for the call to finish after such ...

 
SO I can switch to blue link easily.
 
@agent86 welcome to the internets
 
Aeo
@agent86 Unfortunately, it seems urban dictionary is down right now or something... urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=caps%20lock for future reference, but There's a saying on the internet that caps lock is "the cruise control for cool"
 
Look, it's @Mana at his computer:
 
1:30 AM
Ok so race for wool is a series of maps.
 
it sounds like 1800's slavery to me
 
Aeo
@GnomeSlice Well there we go. Never even thought to image search. lol
 
Yeah.
That's everywhere on the internet.
 
all you people and your "double standards" make me sick
:(
 
1:35 AM
@Aeo That's one of the rules.
Rule 39.
 
Rule 39?
 
@Fredy31 do you like to yiff?
 
I'm not sure we're ever going to finish this FS tournament.
@NickT o.o
 
39 is that everything has a sexual version of it right?
 
I can't get 'Passion for Exploring' out of my head.
Think I've finished my content management final... Any input?
 
1:48 AM
@NickT I lol'd
@Fredy31 That's rule 34.
 
Thats what i tought.
So wtf is rule 39
 
0
Q: How do you find Duriel again?

Nick TOnce you've completed the quest to kill the oversized slug-thing that is Duriel, the correct Tal Rasha tomb symbol no longer shows up in your quest log. How do you find him to kill him again? Is there an easier way than going into all 7 tombs?

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Q: What is the time loop?

DragonLordChaos mentions the "time loop" at the end of Final Fantasy (I). What is the time loop, and what is its storyline significance? Note that I'm playing the 20th Anniversary Edition of Final Fantasy for the PSP. (Please hide spoilers as appropriate.)

 
So, as a last minute change, I wisely told the twitter widget on my site to exclude anything with the phrase '@AllisonOz' in it from displaying.
 
aww, man, I was going to answer that final fantasy question :/
 
@agent86 What was the answer?
 
1:57 AM
@Wipqozn oh, it's something to do with Chaos being Garland and sending himself back in time to send the fiends forward in time. Basically at about 75% of the way through every final fantasy game, the plot takes a left turn and you end up in crazytown.
 
Anyone? Feedback?
Very much appreciated.
 
@GnomeSlice I like the logo
 
Really? I spent all of... 2 minutes on the logo.
 
Aeo
@GnomeSlice You start from scratch with that or was a pre-built theme you built upon?
 
@Aeo Pre-built theme. It was supposed to be a child theme of a really basic theme, but I'm no good with Css
 

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