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FallenAngelEyes

10:02 PM

@agent86 Will do :D

@agent86 Oh oh, also, screenshot functionality is working on the website now!

As are stats! :D

@FallenAngelEyes my co-op buddy's sad that there's no 'teabag' animation in SR3

I'm almost tempted to post a question "How do I teabag?" but I think that's probably... not appropriate.

user30

@Ronan I hate the one show.

But TomSka!

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 Here's my public profile if you wanna check it out :D

@FallenAngelEyes you've killed quite a few people

I dare say you're insane

user30

10:12 PM

@Ronan but annoying theme tune!

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn Well, duh

Okay, off to cause some more mayhem :)

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Q: If I choose to take Killbane's mask, am I completely locked out of the Apoca-fists?

At the end of the Murderbrawl XXXI mission, you can either choose to take Killbane's mask, which allows you to acquire his mask to wear, or he will tell you the "secret of the Apoca-fists." If I choose to take his mask, does this completely lock me out of the Apoca-fists on that save? Or will I...

spoiler saints-row-the-third

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Q: How can I turn off the tutorial popups?

I'm over 20 hours into my game, but I still get popups telling me what Assassinations are, describing Vehicle Thefts, telling me about upgrades when I level, etc. I've already participated in all of these activities. I've searched the ingame options screen, and I've found no way to turn off thes...

saints-row-the-third

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Q: All my dwarves are bleeding to death. What can I do?

After a relatively short battle with a forgotten beast, in which none of my militia were injured, everyone in my fortress has started dropping dead. Even dwarves that were not involved in the battle have started spontaneously bleeding to death. The forgotten beast was described as having "noxi...

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Q: How can I modify specific armor values of items (with the console commands) in skyrim?

I was kind of disappointed the mask Morokei would not let me use the mage armor perk anymore, so I thought I'd find a way to mod it to have 0 armor. Does anyone know how to do this, or if there is another way to circumvent this problem?

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Q: Lineage2 gadgets/weapons real items

I've been a huge Lineage2 fan for years, I've played since C3. I'd love to buy a weapon reproduction or something which isn't a poster/game copy/manual but a true in-game item replica. I don't really like action figures (the type you can find on ebay) so I'm asking: is there anything like that ...

mmo mmorpg lineage-2

oh my

user30

user30

this never fails to cheer me up

10:15 PM

the site is active tonight, and with something other than skyrim questions

user30

time for a party!

user30

by cleaning up the source-engine tag!

user30

actually, it's not as bad as first glance would have it

WARNING: The big meta post is approaching at full throttle. According to the data, it is identified as Grace Note. NO REFUGE

user30

Is this a good meta post?

10:20 PM

One do da de doop de do do one do de do doop de do do one do de de doop do do do onnnneeee!!!

user30

@Ronan royle family?

What?

@GraceNote Mr. Worf, RED ALERT.

Make it so.

I will be sad, very sad, if no one catches that reference without looking it up

@Grace I only know it from IWBTG.

10:23 PM

Which... in... itself... is... argh... you... why... argh...

Is that good enough?

user30

@Ronan I'm going to have to find the reference for you now.

@GraceNote Err?

I mean, yes, it references what I'm referencing, but the original is beyond your knowledge which saddens me.

@GraceNote I think it's beyond most of our knowledge.

You make really, really obscure references.

(I looked it up)

switches polarity

10:25 PM

By this time, this game shouldn't be obscure. I mean, it was referenced in IWBTG!

@GraceNote IWBTG is in and of itself obscure.

Less so, definitely, but still.

I mean, come on. How many people are going to try and be The Guy these days?

@GraceNote reference lost on me, sorry. Not my genre.

I still haven't beat it. I got up to the castle once.

If I was referencing Monty on the Run, I'd call that obscure (and IWBTG referenced that, too), but not this. Not this.

I've never really understood the appeal of SHMUPs.

10:27 PM

@GraceNote faith in humanity: 0%?

@GraceNote Oh god. I didn't connect the dots

The only time I've ever played them I'm just randomly mashing buttons, and it seems like the entire game is merely an attempt to induce epilepsy.

I guess that shows I haven't played that game, although I know its premise (I've played some kind of FOSS clone of it)

You need to play the prettier ones, then

@ArdaXi You should try Every Extend - it's the one SHMUP that I enjoyed. There's only one button, the explode and suicide button.

10:28 PM

That's a pretty famous bullet hell game, if there was one.

Every Extend is a great game. I still need to play the sequels, even if the concept has changed. The demo I played was fun.

@agent86 I'm only going to need one of those.

@GraceNote I think there was maybe a PSP version and a XBLA version? But the original is PC/freeware

@agent86 EEE is PSP, EEEE is XBLA

@GraceNote Pretty or not, epileptic is epileptic.

@GraceNote Okay. I've done quite a few IQ tests in my time. I can solve this.

10:29 PM

@GraceNote +1 internets

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Q: Spoiler: [spoiler] dies soon

Technically, does that count as putting a tag in the title? ♪ I mean, beyond the actual literal tag in the title. spoiler is, by many means, a terrible tag. There are a number of reasons for this. It's an actual meta-tag. That is, its purpose is to describe attributes of the question rather th...

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@Lazers Spoiler alert!

@Thomas Oh I do get that reference, it's the one where they get the caravan.

@ArdaXi I meant the ones that are soothingly calm. Still deadly, but soothingly so.

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Not all curtain fire is at rapid death pace

Bullet Hell

10:32 PM

@GraceNote It's amusing the out-of-context quotes that may bring some curious types into a room if they notice them in the sidebar.

Speed ain't the only aspect. THere's the fun of density

Have you read the bible? Spoiler Alert: Jesus dies. :(

@RavenDreamer I'm still on Genesis! Jerk!

@GraceNote Sort of like me. Anyway, I should look into it some day. I only have a couple of these games in my Steam account.

I don't know Steam's library so I can't say whether any of them are ones that I would recommend

10:33 PM

@Raven The entire old testament is about how god is a terrible administrator.

Let's see.

The bible is held to way too high a standard.

IMO

^ (Relevant)

Tim Minchin!

@RavenDreamer Hmm, Tim made better songs than that one on the subject though.

Which I'm not going to get away with linking here.

10:37 PM

@ArdaXi The one about anal sex and jesus?

@RavenDreamer I... wasn't going to mention it.

The one that starts with 10 foot... etc

Ah, yes. Had trouble trying to remember the name. I knew what it was about, more or less.

I found out he has an album on Spotify.

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Q: I'm stuck in Hell, how do I get out?

I got to the nether for the first time, promptly saw a ghast, and started running away from it. The game suddenly crashed and closed completely. On reloading the game, I was back in the nether, but I couldn't see my portal. I assumed I'd run a bit away from it when I saw the ghast, so starting lo...

@RavenDreamer Album? Song.

I liked the bit with horses.

10:39 PM

@ArdaXi No, Spotify has his album, too.

If I didn't have you is exelent.

@RavenDreamer Not available here. :(

Pretty sure there's a way to share it. Sec.

open.spotify.com/album/7uLTSxz37RxWDZQfPZWeWI

See what that does

@RonanForman I once shared some of my music with my then-girlfriend. She didn't like that song too much.

Its not very romantic I'll give you that.

10:40 PM

@RavenDreamer "This track is currently not available in the Netherlands. If you have the file on your computer you can import it."

Ah. "If I stumble on a watch, I'd assume there was a watchmaker, then a muffin presupposes a baker..." I love that bit.

Storm is good, it's not exactly a song, oh pope is good!

@ArdaXi Ah, yes. Australians hate the Netherlands. How could I forget?

I've put myself in the mood to listen to Butsutekkai now

@RonanForman I love the lyrics of Pope Song. Such an uplifting song.

...wait, Tim Minchin is showing up in here, too?

10:42 PM

I've linked Storm in here before.

@GraceNote hides

I didn't bring him up this time!

You didn't. In fact, I'm just going to blame ELU.

Always a good call.

Blame the English.

Suppose that watch electrocuted you every so often, but you suspected it was part of the design, you would suspect the designer was a dick.

So, were you actually going to rattle off the shmups in your Steam library or was I imagining things?

10:44 PM

I give up.

@GraceNote I was, but I got distracted by a funny Australian.

You give up?

Beat Hazard is one. Bullet Candy.

@GraceNote Trying to be politically correct.

Space Giraffe

Hm... it's like I'm missing some.

I have heard of none of these

Didn't think you would, they're indie titles.

Probably Steam-only.

Got them in a sale once.

Scoregasm?

10:47 PM

@ArdaXi I can't stand Beat Hazard.

Indie titles are something I usually specialize in

Though my forte is technically "niche/import"

@GraceNote Steam-only?

That part is why I wouldn't have played them, but that hasn't really been an issue to know about them. I haven't played things like Pink Sweets or Espagaluda (the latter much to my chagrin) but I still know how they work.

Beat Hazard bills part of its appeal on, "EPILEPSY!" which is just not fun for me.

@RavenDreamer Told you.

10:52 PM

Epilepsy is one of the things Arda is looking to avoid, so I'd go against that one anyway.

@ArdaXi Told me what?

25 mins ago, by Arda Xi

The only time I've ever played them I'm just randomly mashing buttons, and it seems like the entire game is merely an attempt to induce epilepsy.

Oh, yes. I concur.

Wait. Did I just agree with @ArdaXi?

You'll get used to it. Soon enough, you'll be doing nothing else.

I gotta go get ready for church. We're having a special pie fellowship today on account of thanksgiving. :d

10:53 PM

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Q: A personal appeal to Jeff Atwood: Recent Changes to Gaming

This meta post is being made as per David Fullerton's suggestion. Hey, Jeff, can we talk? We know you're very busy doing stuff, but I think many of us folks here on Gaming would appreciate some dialog from your end. The moderators and regular gaming users noticed a couple of changes that you ...

Sounds like you need more DoDonPachi

@GraceNote Peaceful death. Sounds good.

Seems like there's only console and Arcade versions of it though.

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You have no consoles?

@GraceNote Personally, no. We have a Wii, but the last one it was used must've been years ago.

10:57 PM

White Butterfly

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@stevether At least that's not "Maggot."

I think that's still freeware. It's a very calm shmup for the PC.

Utterly worthless for Q&A technically (as the only things you could ask are explained in the manual or in the game), but it's a pretty fun game to get more adjusted to shmups.

The version I have, though, doesn't quite play nice with Windows 7 that I've seen, unfortunately.

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Q: How do I complete the second Pumpking Landing Task?

For the second Pumpkin Landing Task I need to carry five pumpkins to a shed, however I'm having quite a bit of trouble. The biggest issue I have is when I try ot proceed left, since the pumpkins have a tendency to lean the side. What are some things to keep in mind for completing this task, and ...

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@Wipqozn About the above question, is it the actual plant or the royalty thereof?

I don't want to make the wrong fix here

11:01 PM

@GraceNote Clearly you are crazy

Did you get the Vista version?

@ArdaXi I never had Vista, so no

@GraceNote Vista has the same kernel as 7.

I'll give it a shot, though, I should be able to just import my data.

Yes, this one actually works in Windowed mode. Full Screen still results in inverted colors (inexplicably), though.

@GraceNote Ah. So it's not just me.

11:08 PM

Yeah. It's very unsettling and makes it awkward. Try playing in Windowed mode

It's definitely a lot calmer than what I'm used to from shmups.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Yeah, I play curtain fire games to relax, actually

@FallenAngelEyes Curtain fire?

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi If you play curtain fire games rather than manic shooters, you'll usually find they're slower paced and have more predictability in their patterns

Oh, synobym for bullet hell.

11:09 PM

In this week's murderous news: Grace v spoiler and Raven v Jeff

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FallenAngelEyes

@RavenDreamer more commonly known as... yes

@badp We should pin that.

@RavenDreamer The pin is indeed my aim

@FallenAngelEyes :)

FallenAngelEyes

@badp Wait, story was killed?!?

11:11 PM

Aye. Shmups from Psikyo are very different from, say, Cave shooters.

@FallenAngelEyes Yup! :(

FallenAngelEyes

@RavenDreamer I'm... I'm distraught. ;_;

Perched upon a post on meta just above Jeff's Gaming door -
Perched, and sat, and nothing more.

@bwarner Uh... Harry Potter qualifies as scifi?

Quoth the server 404

11:12 PM

@FallenAngelEyes hugs. I think we're going to get through this.

FallenAngelEyes

@RavenDreamer Well I think your post was well-written. I hope we get a response from him soon.

@badp It's the "Science Fiction and Fantasy" site

oh. okay.

@badp Sci-Fi and Fantasy are tightly coupled, literarily speaking, anyway.

My English professor liked to talk about this.

I guess you can make sense out of it

11:15 PM

For a Gaming example, look at Elder Scrolls and Fallout.

@ArdaXi Skyrim has been described as "Fallout: Lord of the Rings"

I wouldn't describe Fallout as scifi

By those who've never played an elder scrolls game, but have played Fallout.

@badp What.

FallenAngelEyes

@RavenDreamer Yeah, that whole "speculative fiction" thing

11:16 PM

it's kinda cyberpunk, perhaps

@badp Wat.

@badp It's technically "Grace and Jeff vs. spoiler", if we wanted to go thorough

@RavenDreamer Fallout used to be described as Oblivion with guns.

FallenAngelEyes

@badp It's not really cyberpunk

@GraceNote Kinda ruins the format though

11:16 PM

@GraceNote But... we like you.

@GraceNote or "Grace and Jeff and Raven vs. spoiler"

It certainly isn't scifi as you would expect from Asimov

@badp The official genre of Fallout is retro futurism.

@badp You are aware that scifi has multiple sub-genres, yes?

FallenAngelEyes

@RavenDreamer I understand all the points and agree they are valid, but dammit, I'm going to hate getting accidentally spoiled on stuff here :(

11:17 PM

(Which, to wit, that was a sly method of hinting that Jeff actually warned me that [spoiler] was in his sights back on Sunday)

That isn't intended to be pompous, @badp.

@RavenDreamer I'm not too invested into categorization tbh

FallenAngelEyes

Someone spoiling the big twist of KOTOR completely killed my desire to finish the game

The only important subgenre of scifi I can really think of is dystopias

even then some warks such as whatchamanumbered-Fahreneit isn't really high on the science stuff

@badp Based on this statement, I hereby your tag privileges. All of them. ForEVer.

11:18 PM

@FallenAngelEyes Given feeds, losing the tag gives no worse a situation than sitting in this room has.

FallenAngelEyes

@badp hard scifi and soft scifi are pretty separate

@ArdaXi Aww, thanks ♪

@badp Fahrenheit 451.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote I also hated that ignoring spoiler made it so I'd still see stuff here, so

@FallenAngelEyes first time I hear this distintion made ever

FallenAngelEyes

11:19 PM

I currently don't have anything on ignore for moderation reasons when I was going through old questions

Science fiction

Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with imaginary but more or less plausible (or at least non-supernatural) content such as future settings, futuristic science and technology, space travel, aliens, and paranormal abilities. Exploring the consequences of scientific innovations is one purpose of science fiction, making it a "literature of ideas". Science fiction is largely based on writing rationally about alternative possible worlds or futures. It is similar to, but differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within ...

> Science fiction is largely based on writing rationally about alternative possible worlds or futures.

Fallout fits that perfectly.

FallenAngelEyes

@badp Hard scifi is stuff that goes into the more technical/science aspects of scifi while soft scifi, most often classified as Space Opera, focuses more on characterization

The heart of "Science Fiction vs. Fantasy" can be best summed up in Clarke's Law.

> futuristic science and technology, space travel, aliens

@ArdaXi Oh yeah

"Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

11:20 PM

@badp It's a list.

@ArdaXi CLOSE!

FallenAngelEyes

Like Larry Niven's Ringworld vs. Peter F. Hamilton's Night's Dawn Trilogy

@GraceNote CLOTHES!

FallenAngelEyes

@RavenDreamer specifically, that's Clarke's Third Law

Well okay I guess the pipboy and sex bots count as "futuristic science and technology". Kinda

11:22 PM

@badp Sex...bots...?

Science doesn't have to be improved for it to be science fiction.

Actually, you know what? Nevermind.

@RavenDreamer Doesn't fallout have those? From what I've read on Gaming it does.

There's plenty of science in Fallout. Think about the highly futuristic vaults.

@badp I've finished 3 and NV without ever seeing one.

@ArdaXi Fallout 3's science is an alternative timeline that branches in the 50's. Basically, no one ever invents the microchip.

11:23 PM

Yep, they chose to focus only on nuclear power.

So I'd say it's more like, "Vintage science, but different".

FallenAngelEyes

@RavenDreamer retro-futurism gooooo~

@FallenAngelEyes It's a thing!

FallenAngelEyes

I've also heard it described as "Atompunk"

I said that already.

11:23 PM

Kinda like Bioshock then?

@badp Bioshock is STEAMpunk. Different power source.

In Fallout, the cars are powered by nuclear fusion for example.

FallenAngelEyes

@badp aye

@RavenDreamer Still retro-futuristic.

Just slightly more retro.

@badp but otherwise, yes.

11:24 PM

Which makes Cyberpunk when it's powered by robotics and cybernetics. The computer chip mentioned earlier, to wit.

Eh. I'd call those Dystopias... which given my previous characterization makes them scifi

Ha!

And this is why characterizations suck!

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:P

11:25 PM

Oh, David Zoolander...

FallenAngelEyes

shit

speaking of scifi and fantasy, Anne McCaffrey passed away :(

@FallenAngelEyes Aw...

I read her all through elementary school.

"Oh, Tongue, give sound to joy and sing/ Of hope and promise on dragonwing." RIP Anne McCaffrey.

Tweeted by thinkgeek on November 22, 2011 at 11:17 PM

@RavenDreamer It's just the same look! Doesn't anyone else notice?

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11:27 PM

From earlier.

FallenAngelEyes

@RavenDreamer I've actually never really read any Pern, but she had a huge influence on the genre and was also the first woman to win the Hugo and the Nebula awards

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah. I read the @#$* outta some Pern.

Incidentally, she's a good example of Sci Fi Fantasy

Which, for purposes of brevity, I refer to as Science Fantasy

FallenAngelEyes

I like Speculative Fiction, m'self

always makes me sad when good authors die :(

Oh, hey, we got the new profile style on Gaming now

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11:36 PM

Yay for information overload.

That be the major criticism o' it

Oh man

@GraceNote I'm good with information overload, but it seems rather busy.

Finally I get to see the mod side of it

@badp Not much shinier

@ArdaXi I've yet to use the summary view and not just go to the appropriate tab

11:38 PM

Doesn't mean I wasn't curious

New profile style?

FallenAngelEyes

The difference between "less info" and "more info" is not very significant at all

Ooh rep is on the main profile, that's good.

@GraceNote I noted that it had changed for your meta stack overflow profile!

And now I see why!

I am the .1%!

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woo

no, nVidia, it is not okay to make a C:\nVidia\ folder to store your temporary shit

11:47 PM

Incidentally, the change to profiles appears to have nixed my lack of tag preferences.

I'm getting suggestions for frequented tags, again.

Not sure why that bothers you...

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Q: Where do I get the Legionnaire Imperial armor set?

I want to solve the "Missing in Action"-quest non-violently. It's said that I need an Legionaire Imperial armor set, my selfcrafted Imperial one failed. But where to get the items?

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Q: Skyrim crashes on start. Do I need a new sound card?

In my computer I have both a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 SB0220 card and a Realtek ALC850 chipset on an MSI K9N4 nForce 500 motherboard. My game crashes on launch, just after the Bethesda logo fades. I've tried both cards with multiple drivers, with the same results. I've seen the workaround which i...

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Q: What is the "moddable version" of Serious Sam 3?

On the very first launch of SS3, I am met with this dilemma: What's the difference between "Serious Sam 3: BFE" and its "moddable version"?

serious-sam-3-bfe

erm... do I want nVidia Update?

@RavenDreamer Do what I did. I'm currently set with rammus-the-armordillo as my favorite tag.

@GraceNote I had something similar. Dunno what happened to it.

11:51 PM

I haven't actually played Rammus since the Masteries change

@GraceNote Though that begs the question as to "where do I go to do that?" :/

@RavenDreamer prefs, top right of your profile next to edit and flair, above About Me

@GraceNote danke schön.

Took me a while, too

Favorite tag: murder

11:54 PM

Oooh...

And on that note, I go to seek sustenance.

Au revoir.

Clearly that should be the secret sign of us rebels

@GraceNote When'd you remove me? :(

@ArdaXi I didn't. At least, not knowingly.

You used to have arda-makes-a-terrible-mod as your de-facto favourite tag.

11:56 PM

It used to be, aye

It vanished at one point, and after that I switched to Rammus.

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