The Bridge

@Powerlord We were talking about it a little bit ago, I took out FS. Would work better if we held it as a separate thing instead of just on a weekend.

@GnomeSlice and I are planning to set up a tournament. We could do something similar for games like Neptunes Pride which wouldn't work well for Game on!

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn ...

"set-up"?

Ronan Forman

8:12 PM

Anyone else a Minecrafter here?

GnomeSlice

Really?

@RonanForman I am, but I haven't been playing as much recently.

Marco Ceppi

raises hand

GnomeSlice

I might be down for whatever it is you're talking about.

Ronan Forman

@Marco Want to join us?

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn ಠ_ಠ

'set up', particularly in this context.

Powerlord

8:13 PM

sigh I don't even know why I bother.

Marco Ceppi

@RonanForman Is this the same server I was on with the Mana head?

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Do you agree with doing a double elimination tournament?

Wipqozn

@Powerlord Problem? I can put it back on if there are problems with the change.

John

@RonanForman Thanks for the skin!

practices running up and down 1-wide stairs with no railing in his new skin

Ronan Forman

@Marco Hopefully not. That was my local host. I'll either ask Tom or can we use your sever?

GnomeSlice

8:14 PM

@Powerlord Lets see you run Game on! and keep everyone happy. We're trying here.

Marco Ceppi

Sure, is it just an SMP server?

Ronan Forman

@John I don't like the glasses, I'd get rid of them personly.

@Marco Yeah with 2 certain maps.

Lazers

1

Q: Countering tanks/assassings as a ranged character

I have been playing LoL mostly as ranged (Annie and Heimerdinger), and if the other team happens to stack a couple of tanks/assassins, then I basically get slaughtered if I go after any critical point. Are there any generic strategies that could be applied to be a credit to team? Many times I w...

GnomeSlice

> A double-elimination tournament is a type of elimination tournament competition in which a participant ceases to be eligible to win the tournament's championship upon having lost two games or matches

Double-elimination tournament

A double-elimination tournament is a type of elimination tournament competition in which a participant ceases to be eligible to win the tournament's championship upon having lost two games or matches. It stands in contrast to a single-elimination tournament, in which only one defeat results in elimination. A double-elimination tournament is broken into two sets of brackets, the Winners Bracket and Losers Bracket (W and L Brackets for short; also sometimes Upper Bracket and Lower Bracket, respectively). After the first round, the winners proceed into the W Bracket and the losers proceed i...

Marco Ceppi

@RonanForman Sounds interesting. I'm at work so I wouldn't be able to help - but if you needed a server for a few hours I would be happy to help. I don't host long-term Minecraft servers though, they are painfully inefficient with resource consumption.

GnomeSlice

8:16 PM

@Wipqozn We could still do best 2 of 3, but count each set of 3 as one match in the tournament.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I think best of 3 would be best

John

@RonanForman Hmm, I'll have to log into my localhost with a bot also so I can get a good look at them.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn With double elimination, it just means that people who lose will still get a chance to continue playing.

I think it would keep interest.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice true

GnomeSlice

I'd be happy to set up the bracket, once we get a list of committed players.

Ronan Forman

8:18 PM

@Marco it's not now. It'll probably be on a game on time as that's when people are free.

Marco Ceppi

@RonanForman OIC, then yeah sure - I'd be interested in playing

GnomeSlice

@MarcoCeppi I spent 40 minutes clearing a giant lag machine from mine yesterday.

Ronan Forman

OIC? And yay 5 people!

GnomeSlice

I had to borrow the server owner's account. All of the admins but him got stuck going near it.

Marco Ceppi

@RonanForman Oh I See

GnomeSlice

8:20 PM

@Wipqozn You're not out in double elimination until you lose two game.

Marco Ceppi

A few of my friends (idiots really because they don't want to join the gaming.se site) play Minecraft regularly to. So you could theoretically include at least 2 more people in that count.

GnomeSlice

So what do you guys think of this gravatar?

Ronan Forman

I'll try and get more people from here as it is a G.SE event.

GnomeSlice

Trying to decide which of my 4 designs to stick with for now:

...Chatkill. Sigh.

Ronan Forman

I like the last one best but there isn't much difference in the first 3

GnomeSlice

8:27 PM

The third one doesn't look very good as a gravatar, because the glasses aren't outlined.

Everyone in my class told me to use the last one, but I ended up having the first one printed.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Chatkill preferable to Gnomeslice.

Ronan Forman

Similar to my minecraft skin's shorts

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi Are you incapable of being nice.

ಠ_ಠ

@RonanForman Yes, I suppose.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Yes, thanks for noticing.

GnomeSlice

I wish I could make Gravatar cycle images automatically.

Arda Xi

8:30 PM

They have an API...

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi ...Is that relevant in some way? I ask because I actually have no idea.

Ronan Forman

@Arda To the keyboard!

GnomeSlice

@TwoTribesGames 201420

Tweeted by ArdaXi on October 10, 2011 at 7:18 PM in reply to TwoTribesGames

... REALLY?

@ArdaXi If I wanted to see you in my feed, I'd have followed you.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice So follow me.

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi I don't want to see you in my Twitter feed.

Arda Xi

8:34 PM

Why not?

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi Because.

Ronan Forman

@Arda ahem Hypocrite!

Arda Xi

@RonanForman Am I now?

Ronan Forman

Not following me...

Arda Xi

I don't want to see you in my Twitter feed.

Ronan Forman

8:36 PM

Why not?

Arda Xi

Because.

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi? Copying ME? I should probably be honoured. But I'm not.

Arda Xi

You shouldn't.

Ronan Forman

See. Hypocrite.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice You are not worthy of honour at my hands.

GnomeSlice

8:37 PM

Oh, that's why Amanita Design sounds familiar. They produced Machinarium.

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> There's a new trailer out for Amanita Design's upcoming point-and-click adventure game Botanicula, set to be released sometime in early 2012. The story follows the journey of five tree creatures who are trying to save an offspring seed from their home, which is a tree that's slowly dying because of a termite infestation.

Marco Ceppi

Anyone interested in this?

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A: Reviving Game On

Day of Defeat / Day of Defeat: Source This was one of the first of the HL mods developed by a third party to really hit it's stride as a full featured Half Life modification. The game capitalizes on team work which was a breath of fresh air compared to many of the Half Life mods at that time a...

Lazers

0

Q: Do I go faster as Xerath if I spam Locus of Power?

Xerath's Locus of Power provides a speed buff for a short time after ending its effect, but it also takes a second or two to activate. Do you make up for the distance that you could have run while casting? Is it advantageous to spam this to cross the map quicker?

league-of-legends

GnomeSlice

@MarcoCeppi I don't have anything Source for PC, but after a quick skim, it looks like it would probably fit well in Game On!.

@MarcoCeppi Is it free?

Marco Ceppi

No, the non-source version is $5 - source'd is $10

Arda Xi

Hold that thought.

GnomeSlice

8:42 PM

@MarcoCeppi I'm not familiar with the differences between those two. Also, you should definitely edit that information into the post. Nonetheless; upvoted.

Arda Xi

Two lucky people can get a free copy of either Day of Defeat of Day of Defeat: Source from me.

Marco Ceppi

@GnomeSlice Day of Defeat is like Team Fortress - it's a Half-Life mod. Day of Defeat: Source is like Team Fortress 2 - it's a Source game (based on Half-Life 2)

GnomeSlice

@MarcoCeppi So, they're completely different games?

Arda Xi

No.

It's a bad comparison.

Marco Ceppi

@ArdaXi Yeah, I suppose so.

Arda Xi

8:44 PM

Day of Defeat is ugly. Day of Defeat: Source is pretty.

Marco Ceppi

It's like comparing Counter Strike and Counter Strike: Source

Arda Xi

It's the same game, just updated.

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi ...So, you can have people playing together on both games at once?

Marco Ceppi

Same basic game, but the Source version is updated to look awesome, improved game mechanics, update engine, etc

Okay, lets make this easy. I'm removing Day of Defeat. Only Day of Defeat: Source

GnomeSlice

Lol.

Can you have people playing the Source version in the same game as people playing the non-Source version?

If so, keep both games in the post.

Powerlord

8:46 PM

You're going to run into the "I don't have that game" problem, like we did with Killing Floor.

Ronan Forman

@Nanor_131 Oh dear http://cheezburger.com/View/5296197632

Tweeted by Blondejonesy on October 10, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice No

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Unfortunately, probably. Doesn't really hurt to suggset it though.

Marco Ceppi

@GnomeSlice DOD is v1, DOD:S is v2 - they are no compatible

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Is that Omegle?

Ronan Forman

8:47 PM

Omegle?

Marco Ceppi

@GnomeSlice I've updated the post

Arda Xi

@Powerlord I have a copy of that game.

Powerlord

I could essentially copy Marco's description of DOD/DOD:S word for word and put the title "Team Fortress 2" over it instead.

Marco Ceppi

@Powerlord I'd be willing to put forth like $50 to buy the game for 5 people if there committed to playing it and actually wanted to try it out.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Except actual "teamwork" isn't always used to great effectiveness in TF2.

Arda Xi

8:48 PM

@Powerlord > most maps can't be won without coordination of multiple people working as a unit, and the game is designed to reward those who work towards winning the map - not killing the most people.

Are you sure?

GnomeSlice

@MarcoCeppi How big is the download?

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice It isn't?

Marco Ceppi

@GnomeSlice I don't know, I can tell you when I get home.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord I see lots of videos you guys post of things like "I GOT THE MOST KILLS", or "LOOK AT HOW MANY GUYS I KILLED BY MYSELF".

Powerlord

There are certain classes in TF2 that can work alone, but they also are the weaker classes, and work much better in teams.

GnomeSlice

8:49 PM

@MarcoCeppi Is it through Steam?

Marco Ceppi

@GnomeSlice Yup, exclusively

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice: While kills are nice in TF2, they don't mean crap if your team loses.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord That's true for just about every violent multiplayer game, ever.

Powerlord

There's a reason the TF2 scoreboard shows the best 3 players on the winning team at the end of a round.

Marco Ceppi

I think there's a different sense of teamwork between the two games

GnomeSlice

8:51 PM

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:O Wow, this looks like it's going to be beautiful.

Marco Ceppi

While both use teamwork, you use it in different ways

Powerlord

(Which, on a good team will include one medic)

I've played a bit of DOD:S, it just didn't seem different enough from TF2.

Although I wish DOD:S's class limit thing was built into TF2, too, instead of requiring a mod.

GnomeSlice

Then you have game like Halo, where people put things in their profiles to send to everyone else on their teams when they have the most kills: "You've just been carried!"

Marco Ceppi

@Powerlord I think that's because TF2 took a few pages from DOD when they were re-tooling TF

Powerlord

OK, tf2mapchooser.smx compiles. I guess tonight I find out if builtinvotes.ext.dll / builinvotes.ext.so work properly.

Although, the default Linux make file for SourceMod extensions runs in "treat warnings like errors" mode, and g++ treats variables initialized in a constructor in a different order than they're declared as something that needs a warning...

(I'm serious)

badp

8:56 PM

TooAwesomeToUse

I chuckled when I saw the Spiral Knights' 'mist tank' mentioned. I still have both.

So true.

GnomeSlice

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Looks interesting.

Alpha signup, get.

John

"You have earned "Enlightened" and 1 other badge" :)

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn @FallenAngleEyes @John @MarcoCeppi Do you all have mics and steam or skype?

GnomeSlice

Why can't all places use security checks like this.

Marco Ceppi

@RonanForman All of the above

John

9:02 PM

@RonanForman Mic? Check. Steam? Check. Skype? No. Google talk? Yes.

Ronan Forman

@Gnome Upside-down walrus!

Marco Ceppi

+1 never use Skype

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Doesn't really look like it, actually.

Wipqozn

@RonanForman indeed'

GnomeSlice

I turned my laptop over.

Ronan Forman

9:05 PM

John

@RonanForman I never saw "Land Before Time". I must be a bot!

GnomeSlice

@John ಠ_ಠ

Ronan Forman

@Wip was that to the walrus or the mic thing?

GnomeSlice

I used to be obsessed with that movie series.

Ronan Forman

@John Nether have I.

John

9:07 PM

@RonanForman Arrow points to mic thing.

Ronan Forman

I can't see the arrow on mobile site.

John

@RonanForman Never noticed that. That would annoy me if I used mobile chat more.

GnomeSlice

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From the maker of Fantastic Contraption.

John

@GnomeSlice That's...actually...pretty cool.

GnomeSlice

If you've never played Fantastic Contraption or the sequel, you should give them a try.

The first one's website is now horrifically slow though. You often can't load anything at all.

John

9:15 PM

*Waits patiently*
*nothing happens*
*disables adblock*
*waits through ad...*

Wipqozn

@RonanForman Walrus? what?

John

No markdown in multiline posts? :(

@Wipqozn @GnomeSlice's Cat thing.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice That site won't allow me to play the game unless I allow Google ads through NoScripts. Too bad.

Ronan Forman

@John no and yes.

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi After a while, a skip this ad link appears near the top ish.

Though it only takes ~10 seconds to show up.

Here, play it on Kongregate

I never actually got an account, but I used my friend's far, far more than he ever did.

(Didn't have a credit card)

Lazers

9:22 PM

0

Q: Where are the Ancient Artifacts in Eufloria?

The Playstation 3 version of Eufloria adds "ancient artifacts" to some asteroids, which you must zoom in to find. Are these artifacts on fixed asteroids in fixed levels, or are they randomly distributed? If their level is fixed, what missions can they be found in, and if not randomly placed, on...

ps3 eufloria

1

Q: How does damage calculation in Final Fantasy 12 work?

I've just started playing Final Fantasy 12, and I got to the point where Balthier and Fran join the party. I looked over their stats and saw that Balthier only has 6 attack power, whereas Vaan and Fran both have closer to 20. Balthier has no other skills useful skills when you first get him, so h...

final-fantasy-12

0

Q: Stopping or at least slowing down the Draw

In my Madden history I usually have stout defensive play, but in this years release (Madden 12) I am having a lot of trouble with shotgun formation draw plays. I just can't seem to stop them from gaining at least four yards per carry. Even if I know the play is coming, I can't seem to slow them d...

madden-12

0

Q: Where can I find a HOMM 3 save file to unlock all campaigns?

I have Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Complete. I'd like to play the initially locked campaigns that get unlocked after you beat the entire available list. I heard that somewhere on the web a save exists with all campaigns unlocked, but can't find it. Please suggest where can I find such save file...

campaign turn-based-strategy heroes-might-magic-3

0

Q: Can I get the "Use Item" achievement in Groove Coaster without paying money?

Taito's Groove Coaster for iOS has an achievement called "Use Item" which you get for simply using an item on a level. Items are expendable powerups that make levels slightly easier. Items are available for purchase in the Upgrade menu of the game for $0.99 for 10. Is there any way to acquire a...

rhythm-game microtransaction groove-coaster

0

Q: SpaceChem: How do I imbue the blue waldo's routine with the red one?

I have a reactor for which I'd like to double the throughput by using both waldos to perform the same routine. While they can't be exact duplicates, I'd like to start the blue waldo routine off by duplicating the red one. What's the easiest way to imbue the blue waldo's routine with the entirety ...

spacechem

Powerlord

There, copied my code to my USB drive.

John

And Play On Linux successfully installs both of my AoE3 expansions. :) Without even requiring the no-cd crack! :D

GnomeSlice

Aaaaaand, chat kill.

Again.

Arda Xi

Still better than gnome slice.

Again.

GnomeSlice

Wait, seriously?

Arda Xi

9:35 PM

Yes, seriously.

GnomeSlice

Out of all of those trailers, you guys starred the one for Incredipede?

@ArdaXi Wasn't talking to you @Arda.

Arda Xi

Suuuure.

John

@GnomeSlice I just glazed over most of what you posted.

But once in a while, I do try something you suggest.

And this time it happened to be incredipede.

GnomeSlice

@John How did you try it?

Isn't it just a trailer?

Almost everything about the community implementations for the Fantastic Contraption games was terrible. I hope he doesn't use the same system for Incredipede.

John

@GnomeSlice Watched the trailer, tried the game. I like to watch trailers before I try stuff you suggest so I know what I'm getting myself into.

GnomeSlice

9:39 PM

@John Is it available to try??

John

@GnomeSlice I meant the other game! The one that's like it but not! You know what I'm talking about even if I don't!

GnomeSlice

@John Oh, Fantastic Contraption.

Yesh. =3 I used to play that an awful lot.

John

@GnomeSlice I told you you knew.

GnomeSlice

@John Not until you said 'the other one'.

John

@GnomeSlice Isn't there only like 10 levels?

GnomeSlice

9:40 PM

@John I think there are like 20 now, but that's the free version.

If you bought a $10 account, you had unlimited access to thousands of user-made levels.

I used my friend's account.

John

@GnomeSlice Ah. I usually don't like user-made.

GnomeSlice

@John Depends. Some of them were very good.

Quite a few, actually.

The problem is that for whatever reason, the website is horrendously slow.

Even more so since I started playing it again a few days ago,

I'm guessing it won't be supported much longer. The forums, anyway.

Wipqozn

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GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn You didn't actually watch the trailer, did you. You went straight to that in the related list.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I watched some of the trailer.

GnomeSlice

9:45 PM

That was one of my highest rated levels.

Most levels get downvoted to hell almost immediately, terrible or not.

Come on OwlBoy demo, finish downloading.

Bout damn time.

@Wipqozn You should post a meta-thread for the FS tournament. The sooner the better, really. More time for people to sign up/commit.

@Wipqozn, did you ever listen to Neon Velcro 2?

Wipqozn

10:01 PM

@GnomeSlice if that was the second mix track, no.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Why not? =[

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice was listening to something else.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Oh. =[

2 hours ago, by GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Give this mix a spin.

2 hours ago, by GnomeSlice

Sexy, funky, feel-good grooves.

John

10:13 PM

I had forgotten how much fun AoEI, II, and III are.

Lazers

10:28 PM

0

Q: How do points are calculated in Orcs Must Die?

I am trying the demo of Orcs Must Die! and I am trying to understand how points are calculated and how to improve the points I get when I finish a mission. Just to make an example, I reached about 26K points in the first mission The Hallway, but looking at the overall leaderboards plenty of play...

high-score orcs-must-die

Nick T

10:38 PM

it just me or does bioshock infinite look really sweet

More steampunk, but way more over-the-top because it's now sky-high

GnomeSlice

@NickT I love Steampunk. I wouldn't really say the first two were Steampunk though, more like Victorian.

Nick T

Yeah, but with totally anachronistic technology

Marco Ceppi

@Wipqozn From that I found this

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GnomeSlice

> oh shit i'm in that weird part of youtube again

Nick T

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But then again, games never look as good as their demo reels.

Lazers

10:49 PM

0

Q: Headshots in Orcs Must Die?

I am wondering if are there any benefits in making headshots in Orcs Must Die!? I mean except the fact that you can take down an orc faster.

orcs-must-die

GnomeSlice

@NickT Not always true.

@NickT Wh...whoa.

Wipqozn

@Mana oh my god! That match was awesome!

I can't believe kiwi won that game! Holy crap. He had no resources left, and a handful of anti-air units.

Nick T

@GnomeSlice @Wipqozn stream?

GnomeSlice

@NickT What?

Wipqozn

@NickT Pardon?

Nick T

10:57 PM

You make it sound like you're watching a stream; I wondered what the URL of it was

Wipqozn

@NickT Oh, watching a SC2 game from last night. @GnomeSlice has nothing to do with it though, just me. P

John

@Wipqozn And @Mana.

Wipqozn

@John No, @Mana isn't watching it right now either. Just me. He linked me to it earlier.

John

@Wipqozn Well he still had something to do with it. You just said so. :P

user30

Garry J Newman

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steam

John

11:04 PM

Besides, you just said you were talking about the game from last night, which I know Mana had something to do with.

user30

wait, is this Garry Newman of GMod fame?

badp

3

A: Steam Submission Times

I'm already on Steam and it can be hard to get a reply from Valve sometimes. They also have a LOT of turnaways - and their policy is to not tell you why. Which kind of sucks.

I'd say so...

> I'm already on Steam

user30

That's what made me wonder

Lazers

11:34 PM

1

Q: How can I make a functioning piston elevator in SMP

I've recently been trying to build a piston elevator in SMP from bedrock to the surface. However, every design I've tried (some of my own, and some from Youtube) results in me getting stuck in a block part of the way up. Are there any ways to get around this? If it's lag related would slowing the...

minecraft-redstone minecraft-smp

0

Q: What are the Consequences of Updating a Minecraft SMP Server?

I currently run a server with a few friends and am interested in upgrading my server to the most current version (I'm a few behind). I particularly want to know what steps I need to take to upgrade the server as well as what the consequences are of doing so, including: Will upgrading the server...