The Bridge

7:04 AM

Enjoy the free refills while you can

850€ for the tickets and a car for 24 days (per person, going with my GF)

that's one of the biggest things I miss from the US

Are you road tripping or just staying in one place?

ill show you in a bit :P

Pandora should team up with Spotify, Spotify could come to the US and Pandora could come to Europe

Don't know Spotify

7:07 AM

spotify.com/nl/new-user

I'm going something like this @FallenAngelEyes

maps.google.com/…

Haha, I was like "How the hell is he gonna show me?"

Looks fun :)

was planning on going through yellowstone too

Can't give any advice as I've never been out west

but it seemed like way too long a drive

7:09 AM

oh nice

how long?

a 1000 miles or so

My sense of long driving distance is very skewed from living in the US. I'm like "Oh, 3 hours, that's an easy day trip" whereas if you drive 3 hours in the NL, unless you're going from Limburg to Groningen, you end up out of the country. >_>

by my latest adjustments :P

hehe

ah well I worked in Belgium the last two years

and drove back and forth every week

I think I've driven about 60k last year

7:13 AM

I love driving. I miss it. :(

oh look what someone from tweakers.net just tweeted: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747598

I don't have a Dutch driver's license yet.

well, having lived in the netherlands all my life I still find it weird that you can drive for 3 hours in some countries and not see any civilization

Hehe, yep

I miss seeing forests where the trees aren't planted in a row >_>

I don't know what I'll be missing :P

but I fear it's not you guys ;)

7:15 AM

there's that too, I look at google maps in the US and all the roads perfectly line up with the compass directions

which just seems unnatural to me

look at manhattan

that's only in grid cities

Manhattan, Chicago, etc.

it's like one big Vinex-block, only higher

but the trees comment was re: NL

I don't live in a Vinex area myself, we still have random foliage

7:17 AM

That was the first thing I noticed when I first came here in 2003. We were driving from Schiphol and I was like omg, all the trees are in rows!

haha, I live in a pretty part of Holland: Groesbeek! :P

which is much, much nicer than those designer trees we have now

brb waking up my GF ;)

I live in Delft, so I'm mostly familiar with the Randstad

in Nieuw-Vennep we have two parts, the old part and the new part, the latter of which is a Vinexwijk

7:18 AM

What is Vinex?

Vinex

Vinex is de afkorting voor Vierde Nota Ruimtelijke Ordening Extra, een Nota Ruimtelijke Ordening van het Nederlandse ministerie van VROM uit 1991. Deze notitie, een vervolg op de Vierde nota ruimtelijke ordening uit 1988, bevat uitgangspunten voor de bouw van nieuwe woningbouwlocaties voor de periode vanaf 1 januari 1995. Voor een aantal steden werd daarbij de richting aangegeven waar de nieuwe uitbreiding zou kunnen plaatsvinden; formeel gesproken was het echter aan provincies en samenwerkende gemeenten om de locaties te bepalen. Deze locaties aan de rand van grote steden voor massale nie...

Ooooh

I'd never heard that term before

I just called it "Dutch surburbia"

all houses like this:

well in a sense it is

although they're all different, most of them are just as ugly

7:21 AM

Yeah

and hardly any foliage other than 'designer trees'

well having it like Belgium isn't optimal either

I went to a friend's house last week, she lives in... Assendelft?

Her area was also like that

and god, yeah, butt ugly houses

I just want it the way it was in the block I grew up in, but every new block that's built is Vinex

I've been to Belgium once, I liked driving through it

except

your intersections

The intersections in Belgium are so fucked up

7:23 AM

this is my old street:

maps.google.com/…

it's much nicer to live in

man google streetview is crazy

wait, been to Belgium twice

I've never really been in Flanders, only through it

Once for a concert festival thing where I saw Tiesto and Within Temptation, and once to Leuven to stay with a friend

its a mess

What was that concert called

Suikerrock I think

7:26 AM

pukkelpop :P

lol

(off- erm, actually, on-topic) DF: "The best choice of restraint is therefore a good strong metal chain. A high-quality chain will also let the prisoner admire it, giving him a boost to his happiness."

Yeah, it was Suikerrock.

...lol

an imprisoned dwarf will admire the chains he's locked up in?

sure, that's win-win

well you guys I'm going off chat, since I need to read 500 pages of Python tutorial within a week

7:28 AM

I really should redownload that

and I'm not really progressing here :P

haha, good luck

Yeah this chat is terrible for getting stuff done

it's so nice not to have any responsibilities for a couple weeks :D

the more I think about it, the more I'm glad to be in school, to have like 10 weeks off a year

after you're out, you just have a job, and you never really have vacation then :P

exactly

unless you become a teacher I suppose

7:32 AM

well, I guess you do more so here in the NL, cuz people get 5 weeks vacation

depends on the cao though

cao?

collective labour agreement

it's basically the terms of your employment, but for everyone with that particular job

ah gotcha

8:24 AM

:( the only mason I have isn't doing his job

according to my bookkeeper there's 200 something alcohol, so that can't be it

10:25 AM

if there was ever a reason to delete a question

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/5064/sc-ii-cracking-game

ping @FallenAngelEyes @McKay

11:53 AM

WTH is this for stupidity? Riven: The Sequel to MYST is not compatible with Windows XP - System Requirements: Windows Vista / Windows 7 (unofficially supported) - Release Date: 29 Oct 1997 - store.steampowered.com/app/63610 - WTH did they do to that game?

That makes no sense

It was released before Windows XP was

Maybe a steam thing?

so they probably made it compatible somehow

so, I finally got access to the mod tools ...

they probably made a Vista version which makes it incompatible with XP

11:54 AM

I'm a little disappointed to be honest.

but why not windows XP? it's using Direct X 9!

the DirectX version used is far from the only factor deciding compatibility

I wouldn't know in this case though, ask them

BTW: what is up with the weird names of all the MW2 players in the Steam Community.

what weird names?

colour codes I presume?

12:05 PM

check the way they look on the iphone/ipad, they render as chinese on Android

but they are emoticons on the ipad

color codes or emoticons make sense.

it's gay and childish nonetheless, but I guess you could call it sense

MW2's engine's colourcodes are of the format \^[1-9]

color codes it is then.

for example: ^2[^0ThRKn^1*^2]^5 DNB ADDICT

yeah, those are colour codes

12:09 PM

would be: [ThRKn*] DNB ADDICT with the color codes removed.

(just a random member of our Gaming Stack Exchange Steam Community Group)

You went and made a group?

I thought we were waiting till we had a real name

we can always move over ;)

is there a meta topic with the group?

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Q: Steam Community Group

Gaming Stack Exchange Steam Community Group Enables us to communicate even while playing, and play games together. (Jeff will be made Owner if he joins, and ♦ on the site should be Officers)

woehoe: steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197964911240

12:17 PM

too bad you're only MSO and SU mod ;)

why?

if you were gaming mod, you would be granted mod status on the steam group too.

ah, well in that case: yes, it's horrible I'm not a mod here

BTW: I love unicode, it allowed me to replace the no information given with nothing. (the information given is a non-breakable space) :D

steamcommunity.com/id/alexanderpas

I usually use the BOM for that

12:29 PM

going to flash FroydVillain now @ArdaXi

lol, that's also a possibility.

just don't add another B at the end.

:73020 Okay, good luck :)

unbelievable, carved out about 1500 tiles in DF and still no ore

using Rom Manager (from the Villain roms guys I think), but not sure if it will wipe everything

it isn't

you should use amon ra's recovery image

let me look up the wiki

well I'm going to the bootloader and do it 'the hard' way

I have it open

12:32 PM

:73027 is there ore in the map in the first place

the recovery is 'the hard' way

:73034 I should assume so, it's a save game offered as a tutorial

:73032 villainrom.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Installing_Custom_ROMs

it doesn't expand other mediawikis?

I know @ArdaXi I just wanted to make sure I don't mess it up and the app actually worked fine the last time, but want to be 100% sure

you'll be 100% sure with the method everyone uses for VR :)

doing a Nandroid now, then wipe, then install

:73036 tried diggin deeper?

12:35 PM

I'm down two z-levels now

but I gotta wait for my miners to finish a renovation project on the main level before trying deeper :)

renovation proect... I know those :D

I'm gonna want to move everything down eventually and make the first level filled with traps and such :D

just look at this mess

nice uhm... mess... (rocks for food?) ;)

is it normal for the game to freeze on 'saving' when it turns winter?

after seeing all those DF questions, I'm 100% sure I'm sticking to the basic Android/iPhone games :P

12:38 PM

heh, it has a steep learning curve

but, like most things with a steep learning curve, learning it is very rewarding

and it looks like you have to WORK

like mining in Runescape way back

like Vim for example :)

all you really have to do is tell your dwarves where to mine

they do the work

DF is FUN

you don't have to point and click continuously?

but yeah, a game with "Losing is Fun" as its main mantra is not for everyone

not continuously

it's mostly keyboard based anyway

12:40 PM

You can go as fast or as slow as you want

since you can pause anytime

Gnoupi

hmm, steam group for the site, interesting

in my experience it's more often paused then not

:73071 no, just assign the orders, and see how the dorfs do it wrong.

it's fun to look at my fortress in stonesense too

takes the imagination part out a little

Gnoupi

your steam game list is desperately empty, @Ivo :-]

12:42 PM

I only used steam for Counter Strike and Half Life 2 way back when Steam launched

only bought Episode 1, haven't even gotten around 2 since I was addicted to WoW

Gnoupi

shivers

you missed out on portal?

and I had a modded Xbox through college

you broke that right Ivo?

wait what, no portal

it was free

12:44 PM

on which I played a ton of games in between those two things

I played portal on the Xbox

oh, okay then

and I ripped through Guitar Hero 1-4

Gnoupi

portal on the xbox? I don't know if we should be proud or concerned

until the songs became crap

uh Xbox 360

which was also modded :$

but burning dual layers is uhm painful

Gnoupi

same, it was about the fact of playing portal with a gamepad

Gnoupi

12:45 PM

it's already complex enough at times with mouse :p

not too bad, I never finished it

so I now have a lot of crap in my trade depot, how do I get rid of the trader?

something better came along, so until then it went fine

never finished portal? now we're concerned.

lol @ VillainRom @ArdaXi: We > HTC

12:46 PM

'tis true :)

you don't have to, because I enjoyed other stuff ;-)

HTC kept complaining the Hero wouldn't run 2.1

Gnoupi

I propose we kick out people who didn't finish it.

and yes @CRoss I managed to break my WoW addiction fairly painless even

Portal's a game you can finish in about 4 hours

12:47 PM

I started working abroad, two months no internet helps :P

well I might give it a go some night then, I like rushing through games anyway

I can't put myself to finishing Resistance 2 either

@ArdaXi 6 hours, we're not rushing portal.

Gnoupi

8 hours - we're reading all inscriptions

I bought it secondhand, turned out it was a Dutch version

4 hours was not rushing, on the first try

just sounds sooo gay

and I hate those futuristic weapons, just like Halo sucks

Gnoupi

12:48 PM

he's on resistance, i think

noho, a Dutch Resistance 2 :P

oh

oh dear, help me stay on-topic, @JuanManuel is here

lost track of the conversation while arguing with a trader

Gnoupi

anyway, as soon as this goes out, we need new moderators for SU: rockpapershotgun.com/2010/08/10/guild-wars-2-gosh

Downvoter

12:49 PM

Hi

:73154 You pinged him

watching it now @Gnoupi

Downvoter

I felted pinged

Downvoter

4 hours for portal?

I'm playing GW2 when it's there.

Downvoter

12:50 PM

2 are enough

I wish we could embed video's on Stack Exchange

Gnoupi

@Ivo - try to not be too annoyed by the over excited developers and designers

Gnoupi

if they manage to do what they actually say, it might be really good

don't worry, I've had my share of developer interviews

nobody tops Molyneux's over-the-top talks anyway

Gnoupi

here it's more marketing than actual interview

Gnoupi

12:52 PM

but still

I've seen what they did with the original GW and the upgrades, so for now, i can see it happening.

Gnoupi

MMORPG in which they want to demolish all annoying parts from other MMOs, I hope they manage to

I'm curious to see how players world interact, it sounds like phasing from WoW

if they could change an MMO into something that's constantly fun to play, rather than feeling like work, it would be awesome

BTW: we noticed when it was WoW maintaince day on GW

Gnoupi

@alex - yes, it's in good hands for sure, i hope it will live up to their expectations though

12:53 PM

perhaps not the amount of replay value like WoW, but they might as well make Guild Wars 3 and sell me that a year later

Gnoupi

WoW has a replay value?

no, it makes you wait for you loot :P

:73185 and even then, it's still cheaper compared to WoW

price isn't a concern for wow if you play it every evening

or even just play it three times a week for 4 hours

go calculate how much value that is for your money's worth

Gnoupi

true, if it's your "go to" game, it's reasonable

12:55 PM

I rushed through the Modern Warfare 2 campaign within 8 hours or so, not really fun after that

Gnoupi

I spend easily 5 WoW subscriptions a month

$0.25/hour

only the only part off course

Gnoupi

steamcommunity.com/id/gnoupi/games?tab=all

Noctrine

:O

12:56 PM

Pff, how do you get rid of a caravan in your trade depot?

Gnoupi

though I shop mostly the sales, but still

I'm in doubt whether I want to try and play Broodwar or just buy Starcraft 2

just afraid that I can't get any work done :(

Gnoupi

hmm, work, good idea, getting back to this

where do you live anyway @Gnoupi?

yay for complete packs: steamcommunity.com/id/alexanderpas/games?tab=all

Noctrine

12:57 PM

I need more money.

Gnoupi

@Ivo - written on my profile

Gnoupi

steamcalculator.com/id/gnoupi funny to see when you add all full prices

Rubacava, Land of the Dead :P

Gnoupi

of course I bought most of this list 50% off, but still

:73221 Heh, you beat me by about $100

12:59 PM

ah France, could have guessed

Gnoupi

@alex - I see you played lot of Anno, they removed the Tages, or they will keep it to the end?