Collaborative Animation

TARDIS Maker

18:12

Cool

BookWyrm17

Yeah! This is the beginning!

TARDIS Maker

docs.google.com/document/d/…

BookWyrm17

thank you

GiantCowFilms

@TARDISMaker @BookWyrm17 So all that you guys will need is adobe accounts

basically, join here, story.adobe.com

BTW, what is going to be the working title for the film?

BookWyrm17

Hmm. We need something that tells us what it is.
Is the idea here to have us do interact with a goal? Or just randomly, as a testing thing?

GiantCowFilms

18:16

?

@BookWyrm17 I think we should have a purpose

BookWyrm17

Me too. Randomly seems pretty lame

GiantCowFilms

something that makes us need to communicate and act, so the story has some purpose

I think also some humor would be nice.

BookWyrm17

Always :D I highly doubt that all of us together could stay totally serious for too long anyway.

GiantCowFilms

yeah

BookWyrm17

So first we have to find what the characters ARE, right? Then it'll be easier to decide how they all can interact, and a goal for them

GiantCowFilms

18:19

Yeah

TARDIS Maker

@BookWyrm17 Well, I'm either a Dalek or a Police box

GiantCowFilms

What I was thinking is we should pick from the people who are working on the film, but not necessarily all of them.

BookWyrm17

The ones that match best, kinda thing?

@TARDISMaker thats to be expected :D

GiantCowFilms

@BookWyrm17 Sort of a fun and interesting mix

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms I could be in the background the entire time :)

GiantCowFilms

18:21

@TARDISMaker Or you could be in the forground

Gwenn

'Ello

TARDIS Maker

@Gwenn Hey

GiantCowFilms

Possibly one or two of us could be in the roll of the antagonist

Gwenn

I didn't get to vote :(

GiantCowFilms

"bad guys"

Gwenn

18:22

But I would have voted for this one anyway. :P

GiantCowFilms

Whew

TARDIS Maker

@Gwenn Good :)

BookWyrm17

I'd gladly be the antagonist, a scary awesome witty dragon to be defeated :D

GiantCowFilms

I feel like we need more people to be present, like maybe a novice and a vegtable :P

TARDIS Maker

:D

BookWyrm17

18:23

Sorry @Gwenn. I was trying to make sure :/

GiantCowFilms

TODO list:

Pick Situation

Then Pick Characeters

Or maybe the other way around.

Gwenn

We should have some sort of challenge that our characters are trying to solve together.

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Just invited them

Gwenn

I think for the most part the characters are already chosen, aren't they?

GiantCowFilms

Depends

we don't want to many, for managability reasons

BookWyrm17

18:24

Maybe lets find out what all the characters are first, just to clarify, then move on

TARDIS Maker

We need to also throw in Jokes that only we would understand :)

Like CG jokes

GiantCowFilms

so from among us, I think we have to pick.

BookWyrm17

I'm sure one of the dragons is a Moron

GiantCowFilms

I think the idea is we create a character pool out of those willing to have their likenesses abused, and then pick a fun mix.

BookWyrm17

Once we find all the characters, maybe then it would be easier to decide which ones work best and which ones don't quite?

Gwenn

18:25

@BookWyrm17 is a dragon (wyrm). I am a dragon. @GiantCowFilms is a cow. @ARadish is a radish. @TARDISMaker is a TARDIS. @gandalf3 is one of the istari. @NoviceInDisguise is IDK.

BookWyrm17

heheh

GiantCowFilms

Wait, what if the conflict is trying to get the radish to stop swearing.....

Gwenn

@TARDISMaker could be a dalek instead, I suppose.

GiantCowFilms

or is that "too soon" :P

BookWyrm17

Yeah, so we eat him :D

GiantCowFilms

18:26

That could be the we-give-up anti climax.

XD

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms :D

That would be funny

Just beep everything out :)

GiantCowFilms

Exactly

TARDIS Maker

Lone beeps are funny

Gwenn

I think @TARDISMaker wouldn't mind being David Tennant either...

TARDIS Maker

Nope

But then we'd need to model David Tennant...

GiantCowFilms

18:28

Ahh

Cows, fruilts and wizards are easy-ish

BookWyrm17

Hoo, I'm glad I found that Stack Exchange Chat app yesterday. My sibs just stole the comouter

Gwenn

There's a SE chat app?!

GiantCowFilms

@BookWyrm17 On the down side your typing has been impaired.

TARDIS Maker

Just so you know, I do have stuff to do, so I'm going to try to not check on this too frequently

Gwenn

I've just been using Firefox on my phone.

GiantCowFilms

18:28

@Gwenn Bum bum bom!

TARDIS Maker

How easy that will be to do, I don't know

Especially since it's all on the computer

BookWyrm17

Yeah, there's a app. @TARDISMaker actually my new Christmas tablet has a keyboard

GiantCowFilms

I have work to do bbl

Gwenn

@X-27 would be content with being just about any robotic character, so long as it has laser cannons.

Is @David part of this?

Is @someonewithpc part of this?

BookWyrm17

He could be. I'm not sure he was originally though. I think someone was

with a capital S Someone

GiantCowFilms

18:35

@BookWyrm17 Can I become I room owner, I need to pin some messages?

BookWyrm17

Sure, though I'm not sure if I can do that from here... lemme see

GiantCowFilms

Go into the room settings tab

its above the who's in the room icons

with the down arrow. there should be some settings opitions

BookWyrm17

hmm.. Noy seeing that on the side. Hope this app includes it

GiantCowFilms

Oh the app..

Here can you pin this in the mean-time:

If you want to be a character in our film (and are willing to have your likeness abused by the screen writers) please reply to this message.

BookWyrm17

Did that do it?

GiantCowFilms

18:39

No

TARDIS Maker

There

It's not pinned, but people should still see it

GiantCowFilms

yeah

BookWyrm17

OK I found it, but I don't know what your user ID or something is. Searching for your Username doesn't let me.

TARDIS Maker

Just asked iklsr to make him a room owner

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BookWyrm17

18:44

THERE

TARDIS Maker

Good

I'd ask to be an owner, but I know from experience that it's a mess when you have too many

BookWyrm17

ahaha.
that was a lot of tabs to click through.

TARDIS Maker

@BookWyrm17 It's really easy to do from a computer

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms Count me in, if that isn't already clear. :)

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Me also

BookWyrm17

18:45

I think it works mostly the same way from here, it just has a few more tabs

GiantCowFilms

@BookWyrm17 Will this link work? chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/34152/…

sorry, had to edit, try it now

I'm apparently now a room owner....

With pinning powers!

BookWyrm17

:D it took me a minute

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

hi

TARDIS Maker

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Hey!

Gwenn

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Hello

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

18:48

By us, is it us personally or our BSE account profile?

GiantCowFilms

We will be poking fun at your personality

iKlsR

We good?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

ok . ..

GiantCowFilms

But not using your real name obviously

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

of course

Too many repercussions ;)

TARDIS Maker

18:49

@iKlsR Yeah

GiantCowFilms

@GiantCowFilms Count yourself in - Yeah, okay!

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@iKlsR No, we are all very bad

GiantCowFilms

very very bad

XD

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

lol

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms Your character--do you need to be a giant cow or will an ordinary-sized cow work?

GiantCowFilms

18:51

I was thinking we should scrap my actual height of 348' and goo for something shorter, but still significantly larger than your average cow.

Maybe 20+'

sort of the kind of height that whenever people go into a building, I stand outside, munching at the trees.

And you can see my legs through the window

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

. . .

BookWyrm17

Thats awesome

I think even the dragons will be dwarfed by your immense size :D

Gwenn

That will be sort of amusing, since I will be a dragon of approximately the same height as a human.

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ . . . ?

@Gwenn Yeah

Gwenn

What size do you plan to be @BookWyrm17?

That's an odd sentence.

GiantCowFilms

18:55

otherwise, if its neccary for me to enter buildings, I can be exactly the height of the room, and have a really hard time ducking under doorways

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

And what should I be?

BookWyrm17

hehe yeah. It depends on what kind of personality I have. I'f I'm the bad guy, I'd want to be really big, but if I'm

if I'm not, I'd be really long, but not that tall

GiantCowFilms

I have a rough plot idea; however, as is natural for an egotist, it puts me as a one of the more central characters.

TARDIS Maker

Want to share it?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

ll

GiantCowFilms

18:57

Although radish gets to be the proganist

Gwenn

Let's hear it.

GiantCowFilms

cause he'll be funny in that role

writing it up . . .

Gwenn

I'd prefer it if we were all roughly equal as far as the plot is concerned, which would naturally arise if the story is us as a group confronting some external challenge.

GiantCowFilms

A Murder has happened, one of many, a serial killer is on the loose.
It is now up to Detective Radish and his crew, using their immense tact, competency and skill (not) to hunt down the shadowy clocked murder.

Setup

Now for the plot twist

BookWyrm17

I'd be good as sort of a quiet background character, as long as I get a big role or surprise somewhere in there

GiantCowFilms

19:00

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Naturally, @gandalf3 is suspected in the murders

(with his permission)

BookWyrm17

Like I'd be quiet, and then when an avalance happens, I slither with "shocking speed" over and push ya'll out of the way or something.

GiantCowFilms

and the more mistical and sketchier creatures of the land (some shady dragons etc...) get questioned by the rag tag bunch of cops

Gwenn

I'd like my character to be active, whether or not I'm central to the actual plot.

BookWyrm17

but I can go in quite a few spots

GiantCowFilms

And then the plot twist is that the cow, who is sitting out side eating trees (and quitely messing up the investigations) was the master mind behind the entire thing.

Gwenn

19:01

@BookWyrm17 At the same time, given your length. :P

BookWyrm17

heh heh, yessss

GiantCowFilms

Which makes me quite centeral, as I said, which is probably not a good idea

BookWyrm17

to both those comments :D

Gwenn

Jörmungandr :P

Who is the "Anonymous Moose" writing on the Google Doc? That's an interesting story idea.

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TARDIS Maker

19:04

Ooh, yay

Thank you

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn I'm betting its @gandalf3

Interesting polt device

Radish of Knowledge

chim cherroo??

Gwenn

THERE'S A GANDALF2?!?!

GiantCowFilms

(only in my typos)

Radish of Knowledge

bum bum BuUuUuUumm!!!

Gwenn

19:05

HOW MANY OF THEM ARE THERE?!?

Radish of Knowledge

cani have a link to the docs again?

@Gwenn goes to 11

GiantCowFilms

Interesting plot idea - so the problem to solve is getting the giantcow back down again?

Radish of Knowledge

@GiantCowFilms me

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms Is the GiantCow (with high-pitched voice [from the helium]) stuck in a building, or floating over the terrain?

GiantCowFilms

I thought the orginal mandate was to play on each of our personalities though

which neather of those ideas do

I'm not the subtle schemer type

TARDIS Maker

19:08

@RadishofKnowledge docs.google.com/document/d/…

Let me throw it in the description also

BookWyrm17

Hmm. What kind of world is this overall? Is it something that actually makes sense eventually?

TARDIS Maker

room topic changed to Collaborative Animation: This is where we, as a group, chat and discuss our co-op animation project. Check out the Google Doc where we keep our story ideas: docs.google.com/document/d/… (no tags)

There we go

BookWyrm17

Somehow all our characters need to fit in this world

Gwenn

I'm not sure that world design need be overwhelmingly relevant for such a short animation. The "world" is pretty much constrained to whatever specific place(s) that the plot takes place.

GiantCowFilms

bbl

BookWyrm17

19:21

that makes sense. Its just hard to think up a plot sometimes when you don't know the place its gonna happen

GiantCowFilms

New suggestion, see bottom of page: docs.google.com/document/d/…

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms We can use my profile stuff

@GiantCowFilms Can you show us how to use Adobe Story?

We really should be formatting everything as a screenplay

Gwenn

Do we want the characters to talk, or should we try to stick to silent roles (like Big Buck Bunny)?

TARDIS Maker

@Gwenn Dialog can be a crutch

Gwenn

If the characters have speaking roles, somebody's going to have to do voice acting.

TARDIS Maker

19:33

I think if we use it, it needs to be used sparingly

@Gwenn Yeah

If we can avoid it, I think we should

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Who will be doing the talking

GiantCowFilms

What if we voice act our own characters?

TARDIS Maker

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Well, basically everyone if you look at the doc

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

not me

GiantCowFilms

@TARDISMaker To the best of my knowladge

lets decide on the basic idea first.

TARDIS Maker

19:36

But I think we should avoid it, and make all of our visual story telling skills as much as possible

GiantCowFilms

BTW, not everyone has to talk as much

some characters can be more quite, this also depends on the plot

TARDIS Maker

Yeah

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

I'm going to be a silent ninja or something . . .

TARDIS Maker

The issue is though, if we do dialog, we have to record it

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

exactly

TARDIS Maker

19:37

If everyone voices their own character or something like that, we'll end up with a bunch of recordings that don't match at all

X-27

exactly.

TARDIS Maker

We also don't really have a good way of directing the recordings into the right direction

Gwenn

@TARDISMaker True.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Let's all meet at @RadishofKnowledge's house for a recording session

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GiantCowFilms

I have an odd feeling it could end up sounding really amateur.

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ +1 (Would Star)

TARDIS Maker

19:39

@GiantCowFilms I think it would

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@GiantCowFilms Exactly

TARDIS Maker

We should focus on what most of us are good at, Blender

GiantCowFilms

I wonder how much it would cost to hire professional voice actors on fiverr

TARDIS Maker

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ :D

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Robots don't need to talk

GiantCowFilms

19:39

I messed up, who again replied to this message? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/26757117#26757117

We need a better way

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Don't know, but you have to remember that we would need to direct them

X-27

@GiantCowFilms I'll be in it.

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Me

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@GiantCowFilms Maybe

X-27

and so will @GiantCowFilms and @BookWyrm17 and @Gwenn and Gandalf, and Iklsr, and David.

Gwenn

19:40

If I were in Houston, I could get a bunch of people together to be voice actors. But not where I am now.

GiantCowFilms

Okay, guys, add your name, as per instruction in the google docs: docs.google.com/document/d/…

X-27

I'm writing the story board for now, If you guys don't like it, you may complain later.

:-)

GiantCowFilms

Whoever wants to appear in our film (and have your BSE likeness abused and mocked by the screenwriters), add your name to the list in this document

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TARDIS Maker

@X-27 Just keep in mind that we may not use it

GiantCowFilms

@X-27 I think we should prepare a series of pitches, and then have another vote

BookWyrm17

19:43

My dad is actually a professional with voice acting and that sort of software

GiantCowFilms

before we get to involved

@BookWyrm17 do you think he could voice all of us?

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms I agree

@BookWyrm17 Oh, cool!

BookWyrm17

I don't know about that, I just know that i'm going to be able to refrence him If we have questions on that

I don't remember what his fiverr thing is, but its been growing steadily, since he posted it a couple months ago

and if we really want/need voices, I could probably gather enough of my friends to come and record using his special microphones and stuff

I might have more friends in this chat room than i do in real life though.... :P

TARDIS Maker

@BookWyrm17 Same for me :)

Gwenn

I still think we should not have speaking roles, if at all possible.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

19:47

yeah

TARDIS Maker

@Gwenn Agreed

X-27

@Gwenn is not possible.

TARDIS Maker

@X-27 Yes it is

Gwenn

@X-27 See Big Buck Bunny. Why do you think it is not possible?

X-27

unless you are using lego minifigures..

TARDIS Maker

19:47

We should focus on visual story telling

X-27

@Gwenn but animals do not normally talk. that is not too unnatural.

TARDIS Maker

It doesn't need voices over that

BookWyrm17

I like the films that don't use voices too often as well. gives it a better feel

TARDIS Maker

We do need sound though

Gwenn

@X-27 I think that we have exactly one human between us, that being @gandalf3.

TARDIS Maker

19:48

@BookWyrm17 Yeah

X-27

humans, or human figures should talk.

TARDIS Maker

It shows better skill from the filmmaker

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@Gwenn I am just a ghostly ninja , no nead to speak

X-27

Uhhh! That throws a big rock (not just a stone) through my entire story!

TARDIS Maker

@X-27 No

gandalf3

19:49

@Gwenn What is @David then?

BookWyrm17

Dragons can usually talk, but they don't have to

TARDIS Maker

@gandalf3 David

Gwenn

There are a couple of people who have not yet said what they want to be.

gandalf3

...

GiantCowFilms

@TARDISMaker Do we have that level of skill?

TARDIS Maker

19:49

I'm either a TARDIS in the background, or a Dalek in the foreground

X-27

noope

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Probably not

X-27

@TARDISMaker you can be a Dalek

Gwenn

@TARDISMaker Well at least voicing daleks is pretty easy.

gandalf3

@TARDISMaker +1

X-27

19:50

A powerful armed bot would add nicely to my plan

TARDIS Maker

@Gwenn Kindof

You need to be able to do the impersonation of a dalek and make the articulations and stuff sound right without editing

Then you need to add in all the modulators and stuff

GiantCowFilms

Where you agree to be in the film, you can state how you wish to appear visually.

Guys, I think we need to prepare pitches at some point, I'm going to pitch my version of the helium, and maybe another one.

TARDIS Maker

Yeah

I need to come up with something

GiantCowFilms

@X-27 Can you standardize the formatting of your entry so people can post notes?

I'm confused as to what is going on.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

^^

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