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2:19 AM
@AvatarShiny Don't edit questions put on hold if you don't make them worth reopening.
 
 
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4:27 AM
Ok
 
 
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5:59 AM
Is there a list of reagents and their mechanisms somewhere in the corner of the world wide web because I can't seem to find one
 
 
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7:39 AM
I feel that the answer should be $a$ and $d$.
Because: For option a, each molecule of $I$ has its enantiomer in $IV$
For option d, $II'$s 1st Molecule has its enantiomer in $IV$ while the second molecule has its homomer, (identical molecule) in $IV$ so this pair is also valid as per the question.
But the answer key only states $a$. Why is option d not included?
 
8:14 AM
It's wrong.
 
@AvatarShiny why
 
The answer key is wrong
Sometimes ms chouhan
Can be wrong too
 
well, we can't be very certain until a chemist approves...
Maybe there's some logic we are missing out on.
 
Could be but idts
 
8:29 AM
@Abcd Salt: $\ce{[A+][B-]}$ (i) $\ce{$S$-A+ + $S$-B-}$; (ii) $\ce{$S$-A+ + $R$-B-}$; (iii) $\ce{$R$-A+ + $S$-B-}$; (iv) $\ce{$R$-A+ + $R$-B-}$. Therefore (i) and (iv), ergo a.
 
I cant read anything.
$\require{mchem}\ce{A}$
 
there you go...
 
$\require{\mhchem}{\ce{[A+][B-]}$ (i) $\ce{$S$-A+ + $S$-B-}$; (ii) $\ce{$S$-A+ + $R$-B-}$; (iii) $\ce{$R$-A+ + $S$-B-}$; (iv) $\ce{$R$-A+ + $R$-B-}}$
 
@Abcd mhchem!
not mchem
i edited it for you
\require{mhchem}
 
@Martin-マーチン I don't see the edit.
I still see Dollar signs
and ces
 
8:33 AM
well, how do you load MathJax?
well....
 
I have a tab. (bookmarked tab)
That is labelled "start chatjax"
I click that, and mathjax loads.
 
umkay... did you get that on math?
 
@Martin-マーチン Yes, I got it on Math.SE.
from the chat room there.
 
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anyway... the stereo centres are left-right: (i) S-S; (ii) S-R; (iii) R-S; (iv) R-R; therefore (i) and (iv) are enantiomeric salts, the others are not
 
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@Martin-マーチン But look 2 and 4 have one identical.
I mean ii) and iv)
 
8:41 AM
yes, that exactly is the problem
only one
Well, obviously you have to treat the pair as one
 
Yeah, realised that. Thanks.
 
I didn't get that
 
also II and III should be the same, but that was no option
 
@AvatarShiny There's a negative radical and a positive radical.
That makes one full compound.
 
ion, not radical
 
8:45 AM
So we actually have only 2 compounds too consider and we find that compound 1 and compound 4 are enantiomers @AvatarShiny
@Martin-マーチン oh, i thought they mean the same.
 
no, radical has unpaired electrons
there can be radicals that are ions
 
can you give some examples?
 
Why not 2 and 4
 
@AvatarShiny because they are not enantiomers.
Look at +ve + -ve as a complete unit.
Don't examine them separately.
 
Ok I'll draw and see once
Got it thanks
 
8:53 AM
How does r-s determine the solubilty though?
 
@Rick Don't you know that enantiomers have identical chemical properties in achiral solvents?
and solubility is a chemical property.
sorry, it's a physical property.
But in spite of that, enantiomers have identical physical properties too.
 
ok..yes..got it
 
 
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Zhe
2:12 PM
@Abcd What?
um, circular dichroism?
 
 
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3:34 PM
In Stork enamine reactions, why does the reaction proceed to give us the enamine (C=C) and not the imine (C=N)? I mean, the two can tautomerize back and forth, so why do we say only the enamine is formed?
I thought imines are more stable than enamines?
 
Zhe
3:54 PM
@Rick You are confused about the nomenclature
In that context, the tautomers are an enamine and an iminium ion
You cannot form an imine with the with a secondary amine
You can form an iminium ion, which may prefer the enamine tautomer
 
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4:14 PM
@Zhe ok yes..
why is the enamine preferred in this case?
 
Zhe
Because the other case is an iminium?
There's also a good amount of strain there
But the C=N locks the conformation
 
 
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5:27 PM
oh..yes got it now: so basically in Stork enamine reactions, if a primary amine is used, we get the imine and if we use a secondary amine, we get the enamine (because in the iminuium ion that gets formed, the only H nearby to get deprotonated is from the CH3 away (N doesn't have one on it)
 
 
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Zhe
8:19 PM
That actually reminds me of when I came full circle by taking a class with Rick Danheiser and then having Gilbert Stork's grandson in my class...
 

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