The Periodic Table

user116211

18:00

Who will be the new ~~lord~~ mods to help Mart and Co.?

user116211

Will be clear after 2 hrs ;)

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 Two of the seven candidates, duh

user116211

yeh.

user116211

Loong might be preparing his victory speech ;P

user116211

And so will be everyone including you ;)

Rubisco

18:02

Well, Ortho's chances are higher. You really dunno who people vote for.

user116211

Will anyone download the contents of the result?

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 I will.

user116211

It will take some time for the result to be declared.

user116211

@Rubisco great.

Rubisco

I have OpenSTV

user116211

18:03

Then we can have the names prior to the announcement.

user116211

@Rubisco good.

Rubisco

Bruce Schneier believes safewords are fundamentally insecure and recommends that you ask your partner to stop via public key signature.

user116211

@Rubisco I have voted for him.

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 And me? (｡◕‿‿◕｡)

user116211

Will not say at which position though.

Rubisco

18:07

Flag please. chemistry.stackexchange.com/a/61205

user116211

Done.

user116211

Is he a nut ;(

user116211

As I said numerous times, Chem's election was quite peaceful than Physics.

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 Are you comparing chemists with physicists?

user116211

The election time seemed like war-time there.

user116211

18:12

@Rubisco No.

Rubisco

Good.

user116211

Just saying the users here are tolerant and peace-loving.

Rubisco

Physicists be like (ง ͠° ͟ʖ #)ง

user116211

Just an illustration:

user116211

in 2016 Physics Stack Exchange Election, Oct 11 at 20:22, by Pablo SaudiBombsYemen

ACM won?? I think I'll leave this site till next elections

Rubisco

18:16

@MAFIA36790 NOICE. Can I haz some transcript to read? I have some popcorn here

user116211

@Rubisco The film is too long; I warn you ;)

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 A long film that is entertaining is not long

user116211

Very well.

Rubisco

Hey @User. Welcome back! Have you voted in the election?

user116211

Less than one hour left!

user223679

18:20

oh yeah@MAR

user116211

Good.

user116211

@user223679 MAR is DEAD.

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 OH REALLY, OH SHIT

user223679

I haven't been here since a year I guess.

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 Used to be

@user223679 Have you voted? Don't forget to vote. It givez moar badgez

user223679

18:22

I was hoping to find @Martin-マーチン cross 20k. Guess being a hardworking mod has its disadvantages :P

@Rubisco yes, chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32994328#32994328

2 mins ago, by user223679

oh yeah@MAR

this was my answer

Rubisco

Oh, so that was the answer

I thought the 'yeah' was because you recognized me.

I'm obviously recognizable because I'm stunningly handsome.

user116211

There are all the names you use in the election page.

user223679

noooo, though I recognize your weird usernames

@Rubisco Can I ask you an election related question regarding your nomination?

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 I guess that helps. I was kinda afraid people won't recognize me

@user223679 Sure

@User if you feel uncomfy I can make a new gallery room for us to talk.

user223679

What would you as a mod do to a person who contributes content to the site but picks up fights with someone or the other all the time? (like ADG , remember him?)

user116211

18:27

@user223679 Heard about Ron Maimon?

user116211

If you know, then you already know the general treatment for such users.

Rubisco

@user223679 Dura lex sed lex

Oh man, I thought the question was gonna be hard.

user223679

yup, but his was a very big issue. I want to know what all you would do between the first fight and the suspension.

Rubisco

@user223679 I'm a chatty person. I would interact as much as possible. And I've engaged in so many meta dramas, I already know when not to continue further anymore.

I know when people will eventually come to their senses and when they need a couple of days to sit in the corner and think about what they did.

user116211

@Rubisco Some people don't.

Rubisco

18:32

Some people don't what? I provided both sides of the coin.

user116211

The glaring example is Ron.

Rubisco

There are very very few cases when it becomes apparent that the guy is just here to piss people off, and that's when they'll get suspended for a MEASLY 10 years.

user116211

Anyways, it's 00:04 here.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 here?

user116211

We would get the result by 1:30.

user116211

18:35

@user223679 My place.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 where is it?

9-BBN

Hello

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 That's very rare.

user116211

Hallo.

Rubisco

@9-BBN Yello

user116211

18:35

@user223679 The mystic land of India.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 mystic :P

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 It's not so mystic once you get so many homework dumps. :P

user116211

;D

user116211

Where is Master @Loong?

user116211

Aren't you excited about the result?

user223679

18:37

@MAFIA36790 dhoni dekha? ;)

user116211

@user223679 WTH!!

user116211

No.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 Its good

user116211

But I heard the film is performing very well in Box Office.

Rubisco

But you said we have less than an hour left . . .

user223679

18:38

@MAFIA36790 That it is

Rubisco

An hour and 23 minutes.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 Are you going to be up till 1.30 am?

user116211

So, you are an Indian too, @user223679, I guess?

9-BBN

I have troubles with an experiment

user116211

@user223679 I go to bed in 3.

user223679

18:39

@MAFIA36790 replied to the wrong message

Rubisco

@user223679 It's eleven thirty for us, not one thirty

user223679

@MAFIA36790 yup

Rubisco

@9-BBN Oh boy

user116211

@user223679 Good :)

user223679

@Rubisco Ya, I remeber you being from Iran.

@MAFIA36790 which year? 10th? 12th?

user116211

18:40

@9-BBN :(

user116211

@user223679 undergrad.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 engineering from an iit?

user116211

@user223679 no ;)

user116211

Physics undergrad.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 IISc?

user116211

18:41

Okay, that will be secret.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 come on!

user223679

@MAFIA36790 whats this?

user116211

Oh! I got a reply from a downvoter; a rare scene @Rubisco!

user116211

@user223679 no reply, I meant.

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 Raises eyebrows

user116211

18:43

Theough he is a crackpot and is banned form h bar.

user116211

So, I had nothing to say.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 Its rare to find an Indian Physics undergrad on internet. State? I am from MAH

Rubisco

You mean you asked 'why the downvote'?

And he replied?

9-BBN

At school I had to determine the dry residue of a water at 180°C. At the end of the experiment I found a mass of salt no problem here. But I have to make a little correction due to the $HCO_3^-$ ions which becomes water, carbon dioxyde and $CO_3 ^{2-}$ ions. In the text of the experiement they said "there is a loss of weight of 31g per mole of $HCO_3^-$". I must use this sentence to correct the mass I obtain but I don't figure out how...

user116211

@Rubisco yes.

Rubisco

18:43

He wasn't the downvoter then

user116211

@Rubisco yes!!

user116211

@Rubisco I was sure he was even before he replied.

user116211

@user223679 Check Phys.SE; there are many.

Rubisco

How can he comment on the site but be banned from the h-bar?

9-BBN

user223679

18:44

@MAFIA36790 state atleast.

user116211

@Rubisco Because he preach wrong physics; and constantly gets involved in arguments.

user116211

And he is now banned for an year.

Rubisco

@9-BBN No alchemy in this chat

user223679

@9-BBN It doesnt read English!

user116211

@9-BBN Horror

Rubisco

18:45

@MAFIA36790 How can he be banned from chat but not from the main site?

O.O

user116211

@Rubisco Should one be banned from the site if he gets a banishment in the chat? I don't think so.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 Who are we talking about?

9-BBN

I don't know how to use this because I don't know how much water or carbon dioxyde or $CO_3^{2-}$ ions I produce ..

Rubisco

@MAFIA36790 So it's a manual chat ban.

Usually the opposite is the case.

You get banned in chat because you got banned on the main site.

user116211

@Rubisco The Phys Mods!!

Rubisco

18:47

@9-BBN We dunno how to use it either since we can't read past the title.

user223679

1 min ago, by user223679

@MAFIA36790 Who are we talking about?

user116211

They are ruthless ;P

user223679

?

user116211

It was me, Mafia. I downvoted it because it's a "lost in maths" non-answer. I'd be interested to see heather explain why it's such a nice answer. I downvoted a couple more of your answers too. But I also upvoted a couple. — John Duffield 6 hours ago

9-BBN

@Rubisco I write a paragraph before to send the image

Read the paragraph

wrote*

user223679

18:48

4 mins ago, by user223679

@MAFIA36790 state atleast.

Rubisco

I still don't have a clear idea on what the main problem is.

But I'm distracted. AFK for a bit

user116211

For relevance, heather is a user who said my answer was nice.

user116211

@user223679 Check the name in the linked comment above.

user116211

I will not name the person who is banned.

9-BBN

The problem is that the total of ions in the solution is not the same in water and when there are only the dry salts because HCO3- decomposes itself in water, CO2 and CO32-

user116211

18:50

Phys Mods warned us not to mention his name.

9-BBN

water will be evaporate and CO2 will go out

Then the final result when I measure the weight, the measure is partially false

So I need to add a correction

And to make this correction they said "there is a loss of weight of 31g per mole of HCO3-"

I don't know how to use the last sentence to find the correct mass of salts in the water at the begining

user223679

@MAFIA36790 fine, heather is the person's name I guess.

user116211

yes.

user223679

and now, can you tell me the State? @MAFIA36790

9-BBN

And also I don't understand the sentence lol

user116211

18:54

@user223679 Well, the city is Calcutta.

9-BBN

I'll use phosgen if i don't find the answer

user116211

Or maybe somewhere near.

user116211

Don't stalk me ;P

user223679

@MAFIA36790 I won't, state is all I asked, you gave me a city's name ;P

user116211

oops.

9-BBN

18:56

@Rubisco you understand my problem ? ^^

user223679

anyway, I love the jhaal muri if you have heard of it

user116211

@user223679 sure; why not ;)

user223679

@MAFIA36790 its not that much famous in my hometown, sadly.

user116211

-3

Q: Electron config HW

(Express your answer in complete form, in order of increasing orbital energy.) (1) What is the complete ground state electron configuration for the beryllium atom? (2) What is the complete ground state electron configuration for the zinc atom?

homework

user116211

;/

user116211

18:57

@user223679 ohh.

user116211

So, tell me something about yourself @user223679, if you want to.

user223679

approx time to the result?

user116211

Hmm, I am remembering the old days I used user in my username.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 Engg from a college in Mah

user116211

And then @Rubisco forced me to change my name ;))

user116211

18:59

@user223679 okay.

user116211

And now I am MAFIA!!

user223679

@MAFIA36790 1st year. you? looking at your phy answers, easily 3rd year.

user116211

I'm a freshman; yeh 1st year.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 then the answers I read were really the next level. good for you man

user116211

not at all but thanks.

user116211

19:03

The most crazy reply I ever got is this:

user116211

> Note that neither Purcell nor Feynman knew how a magnet works.

user116211

Surely there is a reason why he is banned in h bar.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 lol

user116211

I don't know what to say.

user223679

I once was a fan of a particular Phy.SE user. WafflesCrazyPeanuts something something.

Became inactive though

Anonymous

19:05

Please take part in the poll meta.chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/3379/…

Anonymous

@Rubisco

Anonymous

and others

user223679

@ZOZ I think this stuff has been discussed at quite some length on meta.SE

9-BBN

I will downvote :P

Anonymous

you are free to downvote..

Anonymous

19:08

@user223679 i know

Anonymous

please see the my long long chat with rubisco today :-P

user116211

Hey Hey @ortho!

user116211

@user223679 Ah!

user116211

Yes, I saw his account; he hardly comes and participates now.

user116211

He was quite active both in reviews and other things.

user223679

19:10

@MAFIA36790 his blog was one of the most inspiring thing I had read

-21

Q: Mandatory comment after downvote

I am not sure if this comment about a suggestion on stackoverflow should be written here, but I do think so. I would recommend, if this is possible, when downvoting a question, to be mandatory for the downvoter, to write the reason why he/she downvoted. I think this should be much more helpful ...

discussion feature-request down-votes

101

Q: I've just been downvoted. How should I react?

I've posted a question or an answer, and I have received one or more downvotes. I am not really sure why I was down voted, or I think I know why, but I disagree. Why did this happen, and what should I do about it?

discussion down-votes faq-proposed

user116211

I too have read his blog; it was nice.

user223679

@ZOZ I suggest you put it up on met.se. You will get a quick respond on why should it be there or not

WHEN ARE THE RESULTS? :)

Anonymous

7 days from now

user116211

@user223679 1 hr still, maybe.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 1.30 ish right?

user116211

19:14

@user223679 Maybe more or less the same time we got the result of Phys.

user223679

Hey @Bob what does the fox say?

@MAFIA36790 Now now, we don't want to get caught upvoting each others answers right ;)

user116211

@user223679 I have edited your post.

user116211

It's easy to learn MathJax.

user116211

Hi @mith.

user223679

@MAFIA36790 and upvoted it right?

Mithoron

19:19

@MAFIA36790 o/

user116211

@user223679 I will not tell ;P

user223679

@MAFIA36790 thanks anyway!

user116211

Just for future reference and a quick look on MathJax @user223679 :

user116211

1562

Q: MathJax basic tutorial and quick reference

To see how any formula was written in any question or answer, including this one, right-click on the expression it and choose "Show Math As > TeX Commands". (When you do this, the '$' will not display. Make sure you add these. See the next point.) For inline formulas, enclose the formula in $......

discussion faq mathjax reference

user223679

@MAFIA36790 ah! mistakes we do when we are new :p

user116211

19:21

I learnt MathJax watching other posts ;)

user223679

I will be back in 20 mins!

user116211

@user223679 o/

user116211

I'll be waiting for the results.

user116211

Why the chat is so cold as ice.

user223679

what people do for rep:

0

A: Using Chemical reactions to calculate reaction masses and vice versa

Clue: For every one mole of SnO$_{2}$ you need two moles of Carbon. What is twice of 14g? That's the amount of Carbon you need.

a clue is a comment man!

I am downvoting

user116211

19:26

@ortho @loong @rubisco @penta @ph13; aren't you people excited? The result is about to come!

user223679

@MAFIA36790 there is still time right?

user116211

well, yes.

user223679

1.30 right? @MAFIA36790

user116211

not sure about the exact time ;/

user223679

I don't want to miss it. Want to know it LIVE!

user116211

19:29

But yeh, more or less around 1:30.

user223679

what timezone is the SE guys in?

UTC?

user116211

yes.

user223679

then its at exact 1:30 am

see you later

user116211

good!

pH13 - Yet another Philipp

@MAFIA36790 I’m excited since yesterday

user116211

19:33

@pH13-YetanotherPhilipp \o/

pH13 - Yet another Philipp

but I’d be very surprised if I get one of the places

user116211

Rob, the new mod at Phys; filled in the nomination at the last moment; and now he is the mod ;)

user116211

There were stronger candidates than him.

user116211

@pH13-YetanotherPhilipp So, anything can happen.

1,3-feeds

-3

Q: The downvote issue and the stupid rivalry

I asked a question recently, and found that most of the people viewing the question are really appreciating the question. Even the answer is well written and got some votes. I was quite surprised to find out that someone came and downvoted the question and the best answer in quick succession for...

discussion

orthocresol

19:36

I'm busy in real life. @MAFIA36790

user116211

@orthocresol :(

Rubisco

@ZOZ Why is it removed?

@9-BBN Now I'm a bit more focused. What was it again?

Todd Minehardt

hi @orthocresol @pH13-YetanotherPhilipp @pentavalentcarbon - wishing you good luck in the next few minutes!

and hi to @MAFIA36790 and @user223679

Rubisco

And me prolly

orthocresol

Loong is busy too. He hasn't been in chat since Saturday or so.

Todd Minehardt

19:48

oops yes @Rubisco, sorry

i believe Loong said he was travelling during this time

orthocresol

Yes, he did.

And I am busy for the next 1.5 to 2 hours.

Rubisco

So we can deduce that there's no internet in London

user116211

@todd o/

Todd Minehardt

hey @MAFIA36790 how goes it?

user116211

Reading General Topology from Kelley now; not going smooth.

Todd Minehardt

19:52

you're a math guy?

user116211

No phys undergrad.

user116211

But have great interest in maths.

user116211

Some day, I might switch my field.

Todd Minehardt

you'll go far, then - that was above my head so good for you!

user116211

sure.

Todd Minehardt

19:54

i did theoretical chemical physics: the hard part of chemistry and the easy part of physics :)

user116211

Anyways, few mins to go.

user116211

@ToddMinehardt What does it deal with? QM?

Todd Minehardt

@MAFIA36790 - yes, mostly. lots of programming and QM, i did some classical mechanics.

user116211

@ToddMinehardt great!

Todd Minehardt

it was a long time ago :)

user116211

19:55

I'm also reading The Variational Principles of Mechanics by Cornelius Lanczos.

Todd Minehardt

my first publication was on Lanczos' method for finding eigenvalues for latge sparse symmetric matrices :)

1997

user116211

@ToddMinehardt WoW!

user116211

Lanczos was basically an applied math guy.

Todd Minehardt

it was an implementation - and back then, we didn't have computer power to diagonalize large Hamiltonian matrices, so you had to use tricks

user116211

But his mechanics book is awesome.

Todd Minehardt

19:57

Lanczos was incredible

yeah agreed, i have it on my bookshelf

user116211

Although it lacks the important Perturbation Theory.

user116211

I would not hesitate to say it is better than Goldstein.

user116211

But Goldstein has more contents.

Todd Minehardt

i like Byron and Fuller, too

user116211

Didn't read.

Todd Minehardt

19:59

for straight-up mechanics

amazon.com/Mathematics-Classical-Quantum-Physics-Dover/dp/…

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