Ok, ok, time to start a new day :)

@Wildcat It’s not a single word if it contains a slash, is it?

@Jan right, but even the part before the slash is quite bit.

I know it is small in German standards. XD

@Wildcat German … hm … yeah, long words exist, but mainly to mock, and they don’t carry a lot of meaning …

@Jan yeah, for me German words carry no meaning at all. :D

My favourite long word with extraodinary meaning is Prahassakäymättömyyskompleksi which is Finnish and means a complex because you didn’t visit Prague.

@Wildcat I contest that. Thunfischdose will certainly carry a meaning for you ;p

@Jan :D I think I deciphered it!

Thunfisch seems to be close enough to tunfisk in Norwegian. :)

Haha, yeah ^^ What’s it in Russian?

(And also: What is table in Russian as in the thing you sit at and how would the adjective periodic look before that table? xD)

@Jan Thunfisch in Russian is тунец (tunec).

@Wildcat I would transliterate that tunets in English ;) (Or maybe tunyets; or tunits, depending on where emphasis is)

@Jan well, that is the way it is pronounced upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/…

@Wildcat Hmm … I’m bad at recognising emphasis … seems more like tunits to me, though.

Wiktionary says tunyets, though. *stands in the corner of shame*

@Jan Well, according to our state standard on transliteration the very last letter ("ц") has to be transliterated into "c" (as I did). :)

"ts" is not close enough i think...

@Wildcat Scientifically I’m with you. But if you present a random English speaker the spelling tunec, he’ll render it tune-ess or tune-eck depending on the position of Jupiter. (More likely to be tune-eck, though). So a transliteration for English should better transform that letter into ts which will be unambiguously pronounced correctly (or good enough).

On the other hand, for a German, you should write it tunez because of how German pronounces the letter z.

And for French it should be tounets because of the u.

@Jan but you have a letter that sounds (always?) like 'ц' in German, aren't you? I mean 'z' letter. Like here, for instance, en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Ziffer#Pronunciation

@Jan yeap!

By the way: due to me speaking both English and German, it took me a while to realise that Донецьк isn’t pronounced like an Englishman would pronounce donezk ;)

@Jan English pronunciation is... well, almost always special. XD

Somewhere on Wikipedia I once saw an example where ts (actually tš) versus č actually made a pronunciation difference xD

@Wildcat Ghoti ;)

It looks like there are no rules, only exceptions.

And about the Periodic Table. In Russian we never call it this way.

It is called either the Periodic System (of Chemical Elements) or Mendeleev's Table.

But never the Periodic Table.

I have no idea why. :D

And as in English the world table in Russian has few meanings: a thing you can sit at as well as a set of things arranged in this rectangular fashion, you know.

@Wildcat Which is why I explicitly asked for the thing you sit at ;)

German has the same thing, and I’m pretty sure most non-Romance languages, too.

And we have a periodic system, too ^^

@Jan I'm nor surprised that Germans use the word "system" :D It sounds so... German! XD

Fancy that for a Latin word xD

youtube.com/watch?v=1edPxKqiptw begins at around 30s. Have a good luck if you want to make a show with it !

@9-BBN XD

@Wildcat it follows what you said about english pronunciation

"almost always special"

"almost"

Do someone knows how much it cost for a year subscription to the JACS ?

I don't understand how it works

@9-BBN I don’t think they publish the value.

Few hundreds of bucks I guess.

Why do you ask, @9-BBN? :O

As a member of ACS, $99 a year for an eSubscription.

As I understood, you create an account and you need to choose which articles you'd like to read and you can have an access to them during 48H

Well, you’ll get PDFs which you can download and store forever.

So if you pay $40 for a 48H access you can download as many articles as you want during 48H ?

And be the king of the world? :P

Seriously if it is that this is ridiculous

No, you pay $40 for access to a single article for 48 h, iirc.

Yeah, 40 bucks for single article, my friend.

That's how it works.

Money out of the air.

For publishers, I mean. XD

OK so I'd prefer to take a year acess. Well I can have a little access (acess? acces? access? only shit lol) from my school but not from my home and I'd like to improve my english and my chemistry skills reading some higher chemistry papers than my lessons lol

@9-BBN well, if you just want to read papers, there are some "free" ways to do so. ;)

I'm so curious about the hexacoordinate carbon I need to read it !

@Wildcat tell me how :P

You could, for example, simply go and read open access journals xD

@9-BBN sci-hub.cc

My colleagues in Russian that are behind the paywall use this service.

I know a lot of russians are cheaters haha

Just enter url/doi and then solve the captcha (if required).

@9-BBN this service is quite popular outside Russia as well...

It just because I was playing "galaxy empire" and in all servers Russians were in top 3 places so I left the game after a lot of cheat and I was modo lol

But

I was angry because I hadn't the possibility to cheat too :P

or hungry

I've never been able to say the good one

Thank you for the link ^^

Thanks to you I have not to pay $40 for a two pages article

See ya all

o/

@orthocresol but one mole of ethyl ethanoate only bonds with one mole of chloroform

@DHMO Ethyl acetate and chloroform bond? That’s news to me …

@Jan hydrogen bond is a bond

@DHMO Oh hydrogen bond. That’s different, then ^^

@Jan now why doesn't the ether group accept h bond?

Ethers accept hydrogen bonds.

@Jan then why only one molecule?

Pretty sure ethers should accept two hydrogen bonds. Was that the question?

@Jan yes.

we have travelled a big circle

So that’s why I’m feeling dizzy ~.~

any idea?

@Jan is NH4+ an arrhenius acid?

Difficult call, but I would say yes.

@Jan difficult call?

Actually, scrach that; just ‘yes’.

@Jan what concentration you reckon is the hydroxide dimer in distilled water?

^ Wot?

you know, hydroxide dimer

OHOH forming a square

doubly negative

No, I don’t know. I consider it questionable.

alright

@Jan do u think it is shaped like a rhombus?

D2 symmetry

I don’t think it is anything ;)

...

@Jan what is the difference between D3 and D3h?

@DHMO One has a horizontal plane of symmetry.

@Jan right

but both seem to have

@Jan can something be a strong acid and a strong base at the same time?

No.

why not?

The conjugate base of a strong acid is a weak base. If something is both an acid and a base, then there are multiple pKa/pKb values associated with it; the step between two pKa/pKb values is typically something like 5. And the things go parallelly, i.e. the stronger acidic pKa corresponds to a weaker basic pKb.