The Periodic Table - 2016-04-11

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Martin - マーチン

7:46 AM

!!table

8:36 AM

@Martin-マーチン got replaced by !!flip

!!flip/@Martin-マーチン

(۶ૈ‡▼益▼)۶@ɯɐɹʇᴉu-マーチン

Martin - マーチン

:D

!!flip/table?

( つ•̀ω•́)つʇɐqꞁǝ¿

!!flip

◟(`ﮧ´ ◟ )ᴉd

8:38 AM

._.

Martin - マーチン

aha... thanks

!!flip

(∿°○°)∿ᴉd

@Martin-マーチン "!!flip" should send a random table (as !!table before) but I have an error in my code, will be fixed next time I update

(づಥਊಥ)づ︵ʇᴉu-マーチン ⅋bnoʇ؛¡¡ɟꞁᴉd⅋bnoʇ؛ sɥonꞁp sǝup ɐ ɹɐupoɯ ʇɐqꞁǝ )ɐs ¡¡ʇɐqꞁǝ qǝɟoɹǝ( qnʇ ᴉ ɥɐʌǝ ɐu ǝɹɹoɹ ᴉu ɯʎ ɔopǝ' ʍᴉꞁꞁ qǝ ɟᴉxǝp uǝxʇ ʇᴉɯǝ ᴉ ndpɐʇǝ

Martin - マーチン

8:40 AM

in g-block elements, 54 secs ago, by Chemobot

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Martin - マーチン

O.o

@skillpatrol haha

:D

!!flip

(ノ￣▽￣)ノ┻━┻☆)*￣□)ノ))

8:41 AM

fixed :-)

nice work

!!flip/hopeididntbreakthisone

(۶ૈ‡▼益▼)۶ɥodǝᴉpᴉpuʇqɹǝɐʞʇɥᴉsouǝ

:D

:D

2 hours later…

user116211

10:35 AM

!!!coffee

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user116211

Thanks :D

user116211

@Chemobot okay, again taunting me?

user116211

!!!gun

10:51 AM

@Chemobot

user116211

!!greet/@PeterPeter

Welcome to The Periodic Table @PeterPeter! Here are our chat guidelines and it's recommended that you read them. If you want to turn Mathjax on, make a bookmark of the link in this answer. Happy chatting!

help

!!help

Hi! I'm the (for now) unofficial bot of ChemistrySE's main chatroom. __If you find me annoying, you can ignore me by clicking on my profile image and chosing "ignore this user"__
Here are the useful commands I provide : (don't add the brackets)
* img/[molecule's name] -> I will try and upload an image corresponding to your molecule. You can give its name, formula, SMILES, or any common identifier. When using complex InChI, use img/InChI=1/[molecule's InChI]
* help -> displays this message
* wiki/[article] -> returns a link to wikiedia's page n <article> if I can find it

img/H2)

user116211

10:53 AM

@PeterPeter you made it wrong.

img/H20

!!img/H20

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I mean....

@img/H2O

user116211

@PeterPeter: !!coffee

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10:54 AM

what other fun commands does it have?

user116211

@PeterPeter Wanna have !!beer

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user116211

or !!ice cream?

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!!dihydrogen monoxide

user116211

10:56 AM

@PeterPeter !!img/dihydrogen monoxide

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!!'';!--"<XSS>=&{()}

!!Unobtanium

user116211

@PeterPeter !!!gun

user116211

!!!greet/@bilbo_pingouin

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1 hour later…

12:15 PM

@MAFIA36790 !!greet @MAFIA36790

Welcome to The Periodic Table A36790%20!!greet%20@MAFIA36790! Here are our chat guidelines and it's recommended that you read them. If you want to turn Mathjax on, make a bookmark of the link in this answer. Happy chatting!

Hello
It's me.

!!greet @You

Welcome to The Periodic Table et%20@You! Here are our chat guidelines and it's recommended that you read them. If you want to turn Mathjax on, make a bookmark of the link in this answer. Happy chatting!

What's wrong with the chars
In the greeting at my name?
I made a haiku!

:)

12:21 PM

@You Not idea.

!!greet You

Welcome to The Periodic Table et%20You! Here are our chat guidelines and it's recommended that you read them. If you want to turn Mathjax on, make a bookmark of the link in this answer. Happy chatting!

I don't know why it does that.

!!!greet/@You

Welcome to The Periodic Table @You! Here are our chat guidelines and it's recommended that you read them. If you want to turn Mathjax on, make a bookmark of the link in this answer. Happy chatting!

sorry, just wanted to try... so three ! and a / make it without the et%20...

!!greet/@PeterPeter

12:27 PM

Welcome to The Periodic Table @PeterPeter! Here are our chat guidelines and it's recommended that you read them. If you want to turn Mathjax on, make a bookmark of the link in this answer. Happy chatting!

user116211

@Ramanewbie !!!gun

does Chemobot self-censor itself?

!!!help

user116211

I'm missing the flipping.....

So messages expire. :\

user116211

12:39 PM

!!!flip

user116211

@You Yes, to keep Table clean.

Ah.

user116211

@You But you can avert that by using !! instead of !!!

!!about

user116211

@You o.O

12:41 PM

@MAFIA36790 ?

What is wrong with it?
Have I done something bad, now?
Please stop my haikus. :\

user116211

!!!gun

user116211

@Hippalectryon: o/

@Chemobot Pew pew gun!

user116211

There the bot again taunted me with the coffee @hippa

user116211

2 hours ago, by Chemobot

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12:44 PM

@MAFIA36790 :P

!!tea

user116211

@You o.O

!!help

Hi! I'm the (for now) unofficial bot of ChemistrySE's main chatroom. __If you find me annoying, you can ignore me by clicking on my profile image and chosing "ignore this user"__
Here are the useful commands I provide : (don't add the brackets)
* img/[molecule's name] -> I will try and upload an image corresponding to your molecule. You can give its name, formula, SMILES, or any common identifier. When using complex InChI, use img/InChI=1/[molecule's InChI]
* help -> displays this message
* wiki/[article] -> returns a link to wikiedia's page n <article> if I can find it

!!!help

!!gun

user116211

12:45 PM

@Hippalectryon: Can you give me the link where there are listed all the tricks like flip, coffee and all that?

￢o(￣-￣ﾒ)

!!!gun

So there's coffee but
Not tea? I'm disappointed.
Chemobot, give tea.

@MAFIA36790 ~~no :(~~ github.com/gauthierhaas/SE_Bot

user116211

@Hippalectryon Thanks.

12:51 PM

@You !!tea

2

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YAY!!!

Sips tea

Plot twist : it was liquid bromine

2

Oh no!#!ORHUFGBVJkarowklnjrsdflbh.

dsagfdhgjty,kt

@You die

We got him, inspector

user116211

12:54 PM

@You R>I>P>

Aw, --[----->+<]>.-[--->+<]>--.+[->+++<]>+.++++++++.!

user116211

resurrects @You in Lazarous Pit

Kills half the people here

Whoops.

user116211

@You !!gun!!gun!!gun

!! ﾍ(ToTﾍ)))　・　—　　ε￢(▼▼メ)凸

12:58 PM

Epic dodging bullets

—_—

user116211

@You Hey you are not Neo !!

@MAFIA36790 Oh, well.

I perfer mathematical matrices than movie matrices. You can make a 3D drawing with matrices! You can't do that with The Matrix!

user116211

@You creates a matrix monster, orders it to kill again @You

MUAHAHAHA!!!

[[1 0 0] [0 1 0] [0 0 1]] <-- Watch out! It's the identity matrix! :O

user116211

@You The monstrous Pauli matrices..... kill @You !

1:05 PM

Not so fast! I know regexes!

Wait, forgot to escape a space. Wheeeeee[taptaptap]eeeeee.

2

user116211

Who Wins? Who Wins?

chat.content.replaceAllCreatures("\\[\\s*(\\[\\s*([0-9]+\\s*)+\\])*\\]", ""); // I hate that Java needs to escape every backslash.

@You have got a nice nickname!

@CowperKettle Thanks.

user116211

@You Fall of @You's Berlin by Russian MAFIA

user116211

1:14 PM

@CowperKettle: Hey spend two min more; I didn't say you hi ;(

|o|=0

user116211

@You; your nickname is become famous.

I will shortly take over the world after I drink some tea not made by @Chemobot.

Sips homemade tea I just made.

user116211

@You @You drinks the tea MAFIA's assassin poisoned already

Oh, come on, I just made the tea!

All I want to do it saw uwahgliuwghuiwo hgeoiwa

waggewgawg

@You die.

1:22 PM

._.

user116211

MAFIA wins

user116211

AS always ;P

@You haunts MAFIA...

user116211

Oh! have I mentioned MAFIA is ghost-rider?

?

Jumps into Lazarus Pit as a spirit.

Does that work? lol

user116211

1:33 PM

@You Damn.

Hahaha.

I LIVE AGAIN! I AM GOD, THE BACKWARDS DOG!

Kills the MAFIA

"Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

Nukes the MAFIA

pentavalentcarbon

@You Keep your rudely-named programming languages out of here! !!gun

ლ[☉︿۝)७)७︻̷┻̿═━一︻̷┻̿═━一

user116211

1:36 PM

@You Oh! Have I mentioned I've thousands i have thousands of body-doubles?

user116211

@You can find me ;D

user116211

I am the MAFIA!!

Why am I even fighting the MAFIA? lol

user116211

The INVINCIBLE!!

@You blew up the world.

user116211

1:37 PM

@You Ah? Good question.

user116211

MAFIA signs Peace Treaty with @You

@hippa Did you get my message on Chemobot ?

@You accepts

pentavalentcarbon

I, too, would like a !!tea response.

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pentavalentcarbon

1:40 PM

ohohohohohohohoho

!!gun

ξ(✿ ❛‿❛)ξ▄︻┻┳═一

user116211

The 1st condition: @You must remain loyal under MAFIA

@MAFIA36790 Wait, I thought this was about tea!

pentavalentcarbon

We are !!gunning for some !!tea, can't you see?

1:42 PM

━╤デ╦︻(▀̿̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿)

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!!!gunning

̿̿ ̿̿ ̿’̿’̵͇̿̿з=༼ ▀̿̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿ ༽̿̿ ̿̿ ̿’̿’̵͇̿̿з=༼ ▀̿̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿ ༽

They're shooting each other. :P

1:55 PM

-1

Q: Is asking "why" for kids?

Ok folks, I admit this topic may not be that constructive, or too philosophical, but it may help people write better questions. I tend to be annoyed by questions starting with "why". For at least two reasons : This is the stereotypical question asked by children from the day they can speak. Th...

Martin - マーチン

@Feeds Why?

Por que?

2 days ago, by IͶΔ

@ramsay Which part is unclear?

@IͶΔ hello :-)
my question is.....

Apr 5 at 17:04, by ramsay

if i have sodium.....

read my two message after this ^ link

@Feeds Why? !!table

Oh hullo @Ramsay and @You.

@IͶΔ !!flip

2:06 PM

(۶ૈ ۜ ᵒ̌▱๋ᵒ̌ )۶ૈ=͟͟͞͞ ⌨`ワ°)・;’.

Dang

!!flip/newest meta post

(╯°ਊ°)╯︵uǝʍǝsʇ ɯǝʇɐ dosʇ

@IͶΔ Why ?

ba dum tss

Hello

You, you are quite confusing :-D

2:08 PM

Hahaha

You is You but You isn't you. (You aren't You)

You is me.

haha

Evangelion : you are (not) you

2:19 PM

Well, goodbye.

user116211

@You: o/

user116211

@IͶΔ: Well, good evening o/

what does [dot] in $\ce{CuSO_4.5H_2O}$ mean?

user116211

@ramsay \ce

ramsay as in ramsay bolton? @ramsay

hello everyone

user116211

2:23 PM

@Freddy o/

@Freddy :-D

3 hours later…

5:54 PM

* summoning @Brian *

6:12 PM

Sorry, @Brian I think I got it ... continue what you are doing!

6:46 PM

@pH13 <chuckle> I was occupied dismounting a bin rack from its cart & snugging it up against our gigantic tool chest. Glad you got it figured out!

@Brian Would you have known how to use mixed basis sets with orca? :)

In theory, yes. I've never actually done it for a calculation of my own, though.

I think you either can do it in a standalone %basis block, or as an augmentation to the coords.

I did it with %basis and newgto, yes

<nod>, that's the way I'd've gone about it as a first attempt.

(∿°○°)∿ǝdɹ

6:50 PM

that stupid epr stuff ... !!flip/EPR

!!doubleflip/DTensor

ɹosuǝʇp╰(ﾟxﾟ)╯pʇǝusoɹ

Whoa. @Hipp's really been adding to the feature set!

Are EPR and NMR essentially the same, except that the former is relaxation of electron spin alignment, while the latter is relaxation of nuclear spin alignment?

@pH13 EPR?

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BAH.

@Brian sth like that

6:53 PM

Isn't that a synonym?

ESR = EPR?

I know there are at least two acronyms

(In English, at least)

Electron Paramagnetic Resonance, I think it is?

@Loong epr and esr should be the same

@pH13 I wrote the radiological safety reports for the EPR.

Well, it's in the ORCA %eprnmr block name, so I can't be COMPLETELY insane.

@Loong :D

well, not all of them; but for Finland and China

6:55 PM

with google translate?

This, @Loong?

EPR (nuclear reactor)

The EPR is a third generation pressurized water reactor (PWR) design. It has been designed and developed mainly by Framatome (now Areva NP) and Électricité de France (EDF) in France, and Siemens in Germany. In Europe this reactor design was called European Pressurized Reactor, and the internationalized name was Evolutionary Power Reactor, but it is now simply named EPR by Areva. Four EPR units are under construction. The first two, in Finland and France, are both facing costly construction delays (to at least 2018). Construction commenced on two Chinese units in 2009 and 2010. The Chinese units...

paying it back to the chinese for years of bad translations?

@Brian yes

Nifty!

@pH13 in English

6:56 PM

!!flip/English

(╯°ਊ°)╯︵ǝuƃꞁᴉsɥ

soo ... see you in a few minutes from smartphone ...

7:17 PM

no big E to flip ... hm

The lowercase 'l' doesn't render in my browser, either.

what calculations do you usually do with orca, @Brian ?

Whole bunch of random stuff, really.

Whatever piques my curiosity.

7:33 PM

the typical organic/3d-inorganic systems or more fancy stuff with heavier atoms?

The most extensive calcs I've done have been on copper(II) complexes (aquo, ammine, etc.), the metal-nonmetal diatomics of Jensen, Roos & Ryde (GitHub for Python automation), and lately an examination of the effect of the displacement increment on the quality of numerical Hessians (SFP from the 2016 winterschool.cc.)

Mostly organic/3d-inorganic, yeah. I don't have the processing power for anything of appreciable size falling lower in the periodic table.

My original motivation was prediction of coordination complex stability constants.

Then it became clear just how hard that is.

I'm really itching to get the VPT2 anharmonic ORCA wrapper written and validated, because I feel like there's a huge space to be explored there.

vpt2 ... is this sth of barone et al?

Barone et al are the ones that rolled it into Gaussian, yes.

The original theory far predates them, though -- Truhlar et al. worked on it a lot back in the 90's

I know that I printed a paper about this. Need to read it sometimes.

7:48 PM

The underlying approach is more or less the same as MP2, just addressing the vibrational wavefunction instead of the electronic.

I totally don't understand the derivation of it, but the resulting equations are fairly straightforward, if horribly messy.

I think on the spectrocopy stuff, there is a lot to do regarding the programming stuff.

It's actually a niche that suits me well -- I absolutely don't have the algorithms chops to write SCF code guts, but I'm good with automation of execution & post-facto workup.

After the VPT2, my planned code focus is to use ORCA's 'external optimizer' functionality to try to write an optimizer that factors in centrifugal effects.

<shakes head>

I really need to find a way to get paid to code this stuff -- the pace is too stinkin' slow doing it in my spare time.

I guess your "real" work is far from being sth like that?

Completely unrelated.

And as Orca is free, I guess they will not pay for sth helpful.

7:57 PM

I took a quantum chemistry course my first semester in grad school, then didn't touch it at all until after I graduated & took this job.

I assume not; I haven't even bothered to ask.

I might be able to obtain 'independent researcher' funding from the NSF here in the U.S., but it'd be one heck of a risk.

I like the company I'm at now, too, and the work is pretty darned stable, the benefits are good, and the time/travel demands are pretty light.

I figure I'm facing getting the VPT2 up and running in my spare time, then using that to leverage further funding for other tools.

Yeah, never change a running system.

I'm curious if the Spekwin-programmer will get his kickstarter-campaign done ... maybe this would be sth for you ;)

If anything, I'd think a Patreon would make more sense.

Yes, you are right.

The question would be whether to make it a monthly thing or release-driven.

From the perspective of the patron, on the one hand a release-driven model makes sense, so that they're paying for something in-hand.

But bugfix releases are probably too numerous, and major/minor releases too infrequent.

Monthly support would be a lot more secure for me, but perhaps less satisfactory for supporters.

if people are willing to buy (very) unfinished games on steam alpha, why shouldn't there br people to support you doing stuff that will be helpful in future?

8:08 PM

That would be really awesome.

it's like paying for a program that will exist in future to give you the chance for building it. why not also giving the access to stable alpha versions, or similar. but in general, why shouldn't that work for science, too?

<nod> It would be made much better to have future-user input into the development process, definitely.

I'll have to put some feelers out.

do that :) have to go for now ... cya tomorrow

<tips hat>

Have a good night.

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