The Periodic Table

M.A.Ramezani

12:01 PM

Nope. I'm planning on becoming a pharmacist or a doctor, and @Martin plans on ~~losing his hair~~ being the world's first chemist to have played minesweeper for 190000 hours.

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lol @Martin plans on losing his hair.

Hey how do you cut that thing

I mean that word losing hair?

Martin - マーチン

I am not planning that, i just happens

M.A.Ramezani

Well, he doesn't, but his calculations do.

Martin - マーチン

and i just looked... there is no minesweeper on my computer :(

M.A.Ramezani

Why o why?!

Martin - マーチン

12:03 PM

Haha... i will activate that now

i love minesweeper

it is a time killer...

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What is minesweeper

M.A.Ramezani

A game. A windows game.

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What type of game?

Mithoron

I like it too, it's simple logical game

M.A.Ramezani

@Mithoron Ya know, I was a whiz in it some time ago.

I don't think I'm as fast now.

On the way to success

12:06 PM

Aha. this is the one you talking about

I did play it long time ago

M.A.Ramezani

Hullo @Jan!

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Like 5 yrs back

Jan

@Martin-マーチン It's actually the pre-stage to paradise, as you may know ;)

M.A.Ramezani

And he didn't believe it when I said it was underworld.

Martin - マーチン

@Jan Not so sure about that...

I have to admit you make nice sausages though

Jan

12:09 PM

@Martin-マーチン See here ;)

Martin - マーチン

Haha... I almost soiled my pants...

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@Jan : Hello

Jan

Shame you didn't hear about that before xD

Hi @Onthewaytosuccess

On the way to success

@Jan: Where you from?

M.A.Ramezani

Underworld.

On the way to success

12:13 PM

Lol

Martin - マーチン

Haha... had to play minesweeper...

windows was able to ruin even that game...

O.o

M.A.Ramezani

@Martin-マーチン Whaddya know, they're experts.

Martin - マーチン

tru

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Hey, if I just close the window would I be able to off from here?

M.A.Ramezani

You could press the leave button.

On the way to success

12:18 PM

Window mean the window in the browser. Not the ones in the wall

Now I am leaving,tho had a good time here. Bye all of you

M.A.Ramezani

Bye!

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Bye!

Jan

I rise from a coffin every evening. nodnod

M.A.Ramezani

Are you dracula?

Martin - マーチン

Haha... the undead @Jan

Jan

12:23 PM

No, I'm not that old (yet). (Plus he's Romanian, isn't he)

Martin - マーチン

Are there any famous bavarian vampires?

I mean there are a lot of blood suckers down there ;)

Jan

I remember Willy Astor did a whole story about the Bavarian vampire … =D

M.A.Ramezani

@Martin-マーチン Yes, you're chatting with one right now.

Juts don't$\ldots$ give him your address.

Jan

Haha, I might come back on that one if I actually manage to grab a postdoc position in Japan xD

M.A.Ramezani

Huh... A normal day of people whining about downvotes in meta.SE$\ldots$

Levy

12:30 PM

HUllo!

Jan

Is it anything important that warrants showing up in meta to downvote their whine?

Hullo!

Hi @Levy

Hi! @Jan

@Jan It apparently is.

Levy

12:31 PM

They had returned all that votes.

Jan

Oh wait … meta.SE, not meta.chem.SE Nah, that’s too far away for me to go there.

M.A.Ramezani

@Levy Who returned what?

BTW interesting: Chem.SE constituent earners' #: 55 Bio.SE constituent earners' #: 50

Levy

yesterday at 3:00 AM I voted about 10 answer and 15 question of you, about 170 rep.

M.A.Ramezani

What? I don't remember anything.

Why did you do that? Are you nuts?

Levy

for fun.

I was flying after that sweeter than honey victory.

M.A.Ramezani

12:36 PM

OK don't do it again.

Levy

Guess which badge I am going to earn next.

M.A.Ramezani

Gold tag badge.

Levy

chemistry.stackexchange.com/users/12700/levy?tab=topactivity

M.A.Ramezani

Wow!

Jan

Do the tour, get informed ;)

M.A.Ramezani

12:38 PM

You stunned me.

Martin - マーチン

@Levy This can easily be seen as serial voting and may be reversed

M.A.Ramezani

@Martin-マーチン It was reversed.

Martin - マーチン

Haha...

no harm no fowl

M.A.Ramezani

I didn't even know it happened.

He came in and told me.

AND HE MADE ME LOOK AT MY REP TAB. Such mischief!

Martin - マーチン

haha...

Well it looks strange there, but it's just like it never happened

Jan

12:40 PM

Let's pretend it never happened x3

M.A.Ramezani

If @Levy tries it again, and if he makes me look at my rep tab again, I'm ~~gonna get him suspended~~.

Levy

OK, I won't do it again.

M.A.Ramezani

BTW @Levy we have the big two matches ahead: Poland vs. Iran!

These two simply determine whether if we advance to the next round.

Levy

again , we finished the last set and earned the last score by a serve.

yeah,it will.

I think we can do that.

M.A.Ramezani

Stats say we can, but I'm worried.

Levy

12:43 PM

And Russia

M.A.Ramezani

Hmm . . .

Levy

That's much easier.

Jan

I do wonder just how much one can 'support' one person's answers/questions before the vote getting reversed …

M.A.Ramezani

worldleague.2015.fivb.com/~/media/fivb2014/wl/…

@Jan They never reveal it, for obvious reasons.

Jan

This calls for an experiment!

M.A.Ramezani

12:46 PM

No it doesn't!

Just leave me outta it.

Jan

> In the end, the experiment is the gold standard for the theory. (tschoppi)

M.A.Ramezani

I wanna see @Martin get vote reversal.

Levy

take an look at worldleague.2015.fivb.com/en/intercontinental-group1/… and worldleague.2015.fivb.com/en/intercontinental-group1/…

Jan

Also, isn’t it nice when one gets a beautiful HSQC back from the NMR department lady rather than having relied on the autosampler, not knowing that something's busted in the 500 MHz magnet, and getting an unphaseable spectra?

M.A.Ramezani

No, it isn't nice.

@Levy I expected Lucarelli to be the best spiker.

Levy

12:52 PM

The number of spikes are more , but the percentage of success is less.

M.A.Ramezani

I hope we advance to the next round. I wanna see Brazil vs. Iran. OH MAN OH MAN!

Hippalectryon

@M.A.Ramezani Is France any good ?

M.A.Ramezani

WOW $\ldots$ is Aus really that good?!

@Hippalectryon That's a good team.

Levy

me too.
I'm sure that we will advance with USA.

M.A.Ramezani

Sure?

I have to see the third game with Poland first and then decide.

Levy

12:56 PM

Can Poland win USA?

M.A.Ramezani

Those don't matter.

Poland vs. Iran is the only game that matters.

Or the two games.

The first game in Tehran is very very important.

If we win that, chances are we'll advance.

And Poland can win the USA.

But again, we can beat Russia here.

Levy

USA won the Poland twice.

M.A.Ramezani

So the last matches don't really matter.

@Levy In the US.

Levy

That is not important.

M.A.Ramezani

That's very important.

Levy

12:59 PM

Poland won the Iran 3-2 in Poland.

M.A.Ramezani

That could be relevant.

I'm still not risking the decision.

Levy

WE are really in tough group.

The toughest.

M.A.Ramezani

Yes.

Hippalectryon

:D

M.A.Ramezani

We only miss Brazil.

@Hippalectryon Thumbs up I forgot, which pool is France in?

Huh?

Oh, C.

Hippalectryon

1:01 PM

Nevermind it's D (France, Japan, Korea,C Republic.)

Levy

Tell me about your team in Baku 2015?

M.A.Ramezani

@Hippalectryon You must have won them.

@Hipp poor Iran is in pool B.

(IRI, RUS, POL, USA)

Lest you know, pools A and B are the toughest.

The world's best teams.

Levy

France won all its 8 games.

M.A.Ramezani

@Levy It will surely advance to the next round.

Martin - マーチン

Owww darn... how did it get so late O.o

@Jan I know the feeling...

M.A.Ramezani

1:04 PM

@Martin-マーチン You tell me!

Hippalectryon

@Levy We still have 4 more

Jan

@Martin-マーチン I also know that feeling xD

M.A.Ramezani

@Hippalectryon Doesn't matter.

Jan

What's your timezone, @Martin-マーチン? UTC+9?

Hippalectryon

UTC+carbanion

Martin - マーチン

1:05 PM

I think so...

Jan

UTC+Fluorine.

Martin - マーチン

Ha!

Jan

About the time I would be leaving the lab, assuming a normal day xD

Martin - マーチン

Well, I am still at the office...

M.A.Ramezani

Oh, so it's Uranium Technetide complex trapped in fluorine?

Martin - マーチン

1:07 PM

Organic chemists always work to hard...

Levy

Will they announce the new mods tomorrow? @M.A.Ramezani

M.A.Ramezani

@Levy Yeppie!

Martin - マーチン

OMG election end tomorrow O.o

Jan

Brb bringing a sample to the NMR o/

Hippalectryon

@Levy Tomorrow we'll learn that @M.A.Ramezani has jailed all the participants and declared himself ruler of ChemSE :D

M.A.Ramezani

1:08 PM

@Hippalectryon What? Delete that message! Akh, I knew I shouldn't have told you.

Hippalectryon

Everyone gets horse ice cream as a consolation prize anyway :c

M.A.Ramezani

@Hipp read and feel proud: worldleague.2015.fivb.com/en/intercontinental-group2/schedule/…

Martin - マーチン

Horse ice cream?

M.A.Ramezani

@Levy you be fasting?

Hippalectryon

@M.A.Ramezani What's a spike btw ?

Levy

1:10 PM

No, I won't do it again.

M.A.Ramezani

@Hippalectryon fivb.org/Vis2009/Images/GetImage.asmx?type=press&no=43848

Sidao from Brazil (the yellow guy) is going to spike.

Hippalectryon

@Martin-マーチン Horse flesh ice cream, available in Japan :3

Martin - マーチン

thank god no...

LordStryker

LordStryker HAS ARRIVED!

WHAT IS UP MY HOMIES?

er, good morning :)

M.A.Ramezani

Hullo @Lord!

Martin - マーチン

1:15 PM

o/ Straika sama!

LordStryker

quick bow Martin-sama-san

Martin - マーチン

;) that's redundant

LordStryker

very honorabru

Martin - マーチン

true indeed

I have a question for you

you do use chemcraft?

M.A.Ramezani

For who?

Martin - マーチン

1:17 PM

For the Lord

M.A.Ramezani

Kneels

LordStryker

I love ChemCraft

Martin - マーチン

Have you ever encountered this error

LordStryker

let me guess, floating point?

er yeah that one

I get it in many variations.

Martin - マーチン

You know what to do?

LordStryker

1:19 PM

Usually in conjunction with a formatted chk file or some other thing

M.A.Ramezani

Freak out?

Martin - マーチン

It's just a simple pm6 scan

LordStryker

I do not unfortunately. I think its a bug. I've been meaning to email Grigory about it but I keep putting it off

If you email him, he could probably fix it in like 48 hours

Martin - マーチン

ohhhh kay

LordStryker

Just send him the output file

hang on i'll run a quick pm6 scan and see what i can see

Martin - マーチン

1:20 PM

well, i might do that tomorrow...

Jan

Great image =D

So that's salami-flavoured ice-cream, more or less.

Martin - マーチン

Well, it's a true statement

Jan

bows down to the @LordStryker

LordStryker

Hey @Jan, did that paper help you any?

Jan

It reminds me of 'The program could not be executed because .' (mind the space)

M.A.Ramezani

1:21 PM

BTW @Lord we beat US 3-nil for the second time.

@Jan That's mind the gap. Ever played Temple Run?

LordStryker

Oh well congratulations!

M.A.Ramezani

Thanks!

Jan

@LordStryker One thing I'm definitely going to do is put it on our group's server so they know what they're going to quote if they're gonna use samarium iodide. Other than that I had a chat with my advisor on Friday and I'll try an aldol with LiHMDS before I do any fancy Sm-Grignard ^^

LordStryker

Sounds like progress :)

@Martin-マーチン I just ran a simple PM6 scan across an H2 separation, no error...

I'm using ChemCraft 1.7 build132

Martin - マーチン

Yarp...

I have the same...

well...

I think i am goning to spend some time reproducing that error...

M.A.Ramezani

1:25 PM

Logical conclusion: Chemcraft doesn't like @Martin.

Jan

That it's a true statement only makes the error message funnier ;)

LordStryker

What version of g09?

Martin - マーチン

waaaaa

you are asking questions...

hang on

M.A.Ramezani

Gussian 09?

Jan

+a

LordStryker

1:26 PM

@M.A.Ramezani what version of g09

or more specifically, what revision

M.A.Ramezani

OK OK.

LordStryker

G09-RevD.01 here

Jan

I love Gaussian's quotes at the end of jobs~

M.A.Ramezani

Steve Jobs?

Martin - マーチン

EM64L-G09RevD.01

LordStryker

1:27 PM

weird

Martin - マーチン

so that's also the same

I guess it's the type of job

M.A.Ramezani

@Martin's making @Lord jealous.

LordStryker

@M.A.Ramezani huh?

M.A.Ramezani

You do want to see that error!

But you can't.

LordStryker

oh

M.A.Ramezani

1:28 PM

Stupid program doesn't give errors.

Martin - マーチン

I have another quite strange thing...

M.A.Ramezani

A sausage?

Minesweeper's old version?

Martin - マーチン

I am running an IRC... then running an optimisation with the same settings, reading guess and geom and suddenly no SCF convergence O.o???

Jan

Stars are aligned.

LordStryker

what do the SCF energies look like? oscillating? exploding?

Martin - マーチン

1:31 PM

Dunno, lol

i was pissed and just trashed it :D

Hang on i'll check

looks like slight oscillation

I switched to xqc and gave a couple of more cycles

Jan

Hm. The enantiopure compound does not have an experimental density on SciFinder. I measure 0.8425. Experimental for the racemate is 0.8258 (both g/mol). Good or bad?

M.A.Ramezani

That means someone's going to die.

Jan

Oh w/e. Not even gonna quote that anyway. Bulletin des Societes Chimiques Belges from 1924. Article not found. Not even gonna try. We also have two Russian language journals which I don't trust either xD.

LordStryker

oooooo coffee is done!

M.A.Ramezani

Thank @santiago.

LordStryker

1:44 PM

Fun Fact: LordStryker keeps his office dark and works by the glow of a lamp and two monitor screens.

Martin - マーチン

Lol... n3rd!

@LordStryker any clue why this might happen?

M.A.Ramezani

Oh, I do that too.

Except I'm not in an office.

LordStryker

Well, did your IRC finish properly?

Martin - マーチン

Should I have read the density, too?

good point

no it did not

geometry did not converge

LordStryker

There you go :)

Martin - マーチン

1:46 PM

but scf did

LordStryker

I'd take a geometry near the end of the IRC and not the final geom and opt that

your irc borked something big time

Martin - マーチン

so since it is the same geometry, the same guess, why did it not do what i want

lol

yeah i guess so...

i like irc only a little bit...

M.A.Ramezani

Whoa$\ldots$ are all of the chemists like this?

:]

LordStryker

IRC is great but only when it works. It hardly ever works for me.

Martin - マーチン

I have another question @LordStryker

:D

LordStryker

1:48 PM

I find that the default IRC approach, while great and all, tends to fail a lot due to all the 'improvements' they made in the method.

Martin - マーチン

Do you know any program that can do a conformational analysis

LordStryker

I've found using some of the less-efficient non-default methods work.

Martin - マーチン

Ha

LordStryker

I don't know of any program that can do that.

Martin - マーチン

I always use GS2

old algorithm, slow but reliable

LordStryker

1:49 PM

If you mean a program that searches all possible conformations

Martin - マーチン

yes, thats what i meant

LordStryker

there's MD but that isn't systematic

Martin - マーチン

not necessarily all, but some local minima around a starting minima

LordStryker

@Martin-マーチン Do you know if Chemcraft handles TD-DFT output files at all?

(I've never done a td-dft job before)

Martin - マーチン

define handle

LordStryker

1:50 PM

as in, shows me the td results

Martin - マーチン

you can open them and you have a spectrum present i think

LordStryker

oh okay

Martin - マーチン

should work

Hippalectryon

the part by which a thing is held, carried, or controlled :3

Martin - マーチン

long time i did that, but i the only other programs i use are molden and gopenmole

LordStryker

1:52 PM

Well I'm entering new territory here. Trying the TD(50-50) analysis. Have no idea what to expect.

Martin - マーチン

But I remember the output of gaussian being fairly well organised

what's that? never heard of it

LordStryker

"Solve for half triplet and half singlet states. Only effective for closed-shell systems."

Martin - マーチン

Yeah, just checked

If i have to use td, then i usually have open shell any way

:'(

LordStryker

Soooo, i'm looking at a spectrum. I see wavelength and f

Martin - マーチン

Okay... I am hungry now... time to go home...

LordStryker

1:54 PM

No idea what this means with respect to singlet and/or triplet excitations

\o see ya Martin :)

M.A.Ramezani

Oooh drama$\ldots$ Grab popcorn:

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