OGNext - Next-level personal OGame assistant

Zak

07:06

Monking guys

Zak

10:34

Lunar 6 queued. 28 hours...

So, the guy with the 3 abandoned planets, I've bashed him so much that I'm not allowed to attack him anymore ^^

skiwi

11:08

hey @Zak

I had an odd attack on one of my newest planets (not the one from yesterday)

I think he forgot to sim the techs

Zak

Maybe he loaded a report that didn't have them? I've nearly done that with trash sim sometimes.

skiwi

Same here ^^

In any case, doesn't look that profitable for him anymore ^^

Looking around on the HoF forums, my fleet is really small :(

Zak

We're getting there.

skiwi

I need a plan (soon (tm))

Right now I'm upgrading my mines to 24-22 metal-crystal with 24 solar plant on my first 3 planets

Then getting 40 solar sats and getting my deut plant as high as possible

Zak

11:23

Isn't 24 a bit excessive? I mean, if you actually have that res spare then sure, but otherwise shouldn't you be building that moon and going all-out fleet?

skiwi

After that I'm unsure if I should invest in them

Define spare

It roughly costs me a night production on 3 planets to start a mine on 2

Zak

For me, it goes: Priority 1, Build up lunar base and phalanx

(If 1 is fully queued): Priority 2, Keep all my shipyards at full capacity

(If 2 is fully queued): Priority 3, make sure I (will) have enough res to satisfy priorities 1 and 2 for the next [time span]

If all of the above, then any res left is 'spare'

skiwi

I'm also building up LB and phalanx

You're keeping shipyards full capacity throughout day or also throughout ~~next~~ night?

Zak

I wish I had that much res kicking around ^^

skiwi

And does keeping through day mean that you ship res to those planets?

Zak

11:32

Generally, I try to keep them queued a few hours out

skiwi

lol, Cineo is banned

Rank 10 pretty close to me

Oh wow, account sharing, that's pretty heavy

32 spy reports... that might've been a bit excessive

Holy *** I got some find,

Zak

Account sharing?

skiwi

Ah no, he shows activity

3lions is mine when I get my phalanx up on longer range

@Mast What do you think about hosting our OGNext instance on AWS? (Somewhere in the cloud)

Mast

@skiwi I don't like clouds.

I'm a hardware man.

skiwi

I'd like to be able to access whenever needed though

For updates, etc.

Mast

11:43

@skiwi You need SSH for that, not a cloud.

skiwi

True, but with a cloud I get AWS experience and SSH, now my communication protocol is over @Mast ^^

Mast

I already told you I can give you SSH access to my server :P

skiwi

Can you send it soon (tm) then?

I'm able to sustain 46 large cargos on 2 players right now... better hope they won't come online

ogniter.org/en/678/statistics/1/0/month/100153-100159-104515

Zak

I've pretty much depleted WhiskeyChallenge for the time being. I guess it's back to raiding inactives until I get home this evening.

skiwi

Take this one:

ogniter.org/en/678/statistics/1/0/:/100153-100159-104515

Why the sudden drop in your total points though?

Zak

11:56

That'll be the moonshots

Notice the same dip in your points

skiwi

Ah right

Woah, I'm #13 on military lost

#35 on military destroyed, that's quite surprising actually

Zak

Can't wait to see the last couple of days in those stats

Yeah, stick that page on "military" and you can see the huge downward spike when our moonshot fleets got vaporised

skiwi

You can also see where I lost my cruisers, twice

That's a rank 11 player there... ^^

Zak

12:14

Are they offline?

skiwi

Shows 30 min on most planets, one has activity

I found 1.2M res behind 310K def and 220 solar sats in G6

But I have no fleet right now :(

Lol, a guy on which I've launched is suddenly a noob... Guess I was just in time then

Seems like I'm not the first guy who paid him a visit though :(

Though 800K res in one wave is not bad I guess?

Zak

12:32

I'd say it's pretty awesome

For me, that's ~1/5 of my entire daily production

Mast

13:12

@skiwi What, log-in information? Sure, I'll get it done today.

@skiwi That last defensive CR you linked, you need more HL :P

skiwi

@Mast Building those now

@Mast Yep

This is a lot of cards ^^

Mast

@skiwi Is that Hex TCG?

skiwi

Yep ^^

Please don't crash the servers

Mast

13:32

@skiwi Holy carp, reminds me of DEFCON.

skiwi

What's that?

Mast

DEFCON (video game)

DEFCON (stylized as DEFCOИ) is a real-time strategy game created by independent British game developer Introversion Software, developers of Darwinia, Multiwinia, Uplink, and Prison Architect. The gameplay is reminiscent of the "big boards" that visually represented thermonuclear war in films such as Dr. Strangelove, Fail-Safe, and especially WarGames. The game has been available by download since September, 2006 through Introversion's web store and Steam. In the UK it was released for the high street shops on June 15, 2007 and for a limited period included the developer's first game Uplink. On...

skiwi

14:53

:/ I need more recs

Do you guys upgrade your drives considerably? Would improve the speed of raids I guess

Zak

15:51

@skiwi I usually only upgrade them to whatever is "not very expensive" in the context of my current res supplies. Only ever go above for getting ship techs.

skiwi

@Zak Okay ^^

Zak

A good benchmark for costs is your weapon techs

skiwi

16:13

My drive techs will pretty much always be below my weapon techs

skiwi

17:52

Ooo Phalanx 3

skiwi

18:06

The moment when the profits are too good to be true... Forgot to sim techs

Well, more specifically, I had my techs filled in, but the other guy hadn't ^^

@Mast @Zak Do you have something close to 2:80 +/- 22 systems for ACS?

I'm likely flying with bombers, so can hit some delays

Zak

@skiwi 'fraid not

skiwi

Still 30 mins till my recs are back, and I'm gonna need them

I'm essentially trading 350K metal for 50K crystal and 350K deut

Player shows no activity... yet it's still risky

skiwi

19:39

@Mast Are you around for the SSH data soon (tm)?

Mast

20:15

@skiwi I'm bombarded with work and shit is hitting the fan big time.

I'll give you the main account, as long as you don't screw around with things not OGNext related that should work fine.

If I can remember the darn credentials.

@skiwi You got something I can e-mail it to?

@skiwi I ain't got anything in G2

Zak

@Mast Is this a permanent thing or just temporary?

skiwi

@Mast Remember that I did an chmod +777 / or something like that once? :P

@Mast Yes, I've got an email address

Look in a commit of OGNext, it should be there

Mast

@skiwi As long as you don't chmod 000 the darn thing ^^

skiwi

I remember you sharing screenshots of stuff on the server? Can I also get that? ^^

Using some kind of GUI, I mean

Mast

@skiwi X is forwarded, so if you run something like Xming local next to your terminal you should be fine.

skiwi

20:29

I don't know what any of that means, but I'll figure it out ^^

Tell me once you sent the mail, to see if I received it

Mast

@skiwi You got mail.

@skiwi straightrunning.com/XmingNotes

@Zak Till the end of the week for now.

skiwi

Now I wonder where it shows my email address on GitHub

Mast

Let me know if it doesn't work out, though I probably won't read mail till tomorrow morning ^^

skiwi

I thought you'd always see it there, but now I cannot find it

Mast

@skiwi Abuse the API, as always ^^

api.github.com/users/skiwi2/events/public

skiwi

20:38

Got the mail now

^^ Okay

Mast

Feel free to remove that if you don't like a link to your e-mail showing up in chat ^^

skiwi

It's our there anyway, only linking the mail directly in that would make it easier, this won't ;)

I might check it tonight, else tomorrow somewhere

board.en.ogame.gameforge.com/board706-game/board841-universe-1/…

This never ceases to amaze me ^^

I think at that point it's normal to quit the game

(At least that universe)

Zak

21:18

So, I've been modelling game-start build orders for a race-to-first-SC in anticipation of the next new server.

Long story short, assuming you bought an officer corps and +10% items, takes 45 Hours at 1xspeed

So 15 hours at 3x

10k DM of res-buying in the first 15 minutes will knock 2h 15m off that time. (I'd probably do that, 10k is pretty cheap)

To knock the same amount off again takes another 30k DM

I'm looking forward to next Uni start. I'm having ideas ~~mwahahaha~~

skiwi

21:34

@Zak Nice ;) That was also on my todo list :P

This is probably a long shot... but can you do it for cruisers too?

Zak

No. As soon as SC raiding enters the equation, any predictive modelling goes out the window.

skiwi

I'm assuming the people that buy DM when the server opens buy 2.4M for 100 euro

You're using the DM though for starting a research/building with DM?

Zak

yep.

If you want to just straight-up buy a SC with DM, only costs you 115k

skiwi

Wouldn't Cruiser be relatively easy to calculate too?

Zak

Under what assumptions?

No raiding?

skiwi

21:40

Yep

If my defences can keep a night's production up, would it hurt a lot if I added 3 hours of res there? ^^

Napsters fleet is sitting there again with him not being there ^^

I don't happen to have 200 recs nor the fleet to take him down yet

Zak

re: cruisers

85% of the total cost is impulse 4

skiwi

Ouch ^^

Zak

1.035M DM

skiwi

(lol, started Solar 34 on test server)

So that's not even 50 euro... damn

Zak

(less in reality because you can produce *some* res and have it become profitable before you're finished building/researching)

skiwi

21:48

Early start is very tough

There's still the research times though

Probably for OGNext there should at least be a model of "this is the current state of a player", and then add all options where the player could advance (buildings, research, etc.)

Zak

@skiwi I was gona say 50 Euros is a lot to pay just for off-the-bat fleeting

But then again, if you plan to be playing on a server for months/years...

Now that I look at it, 100k moonshots are also (probably) a pretty useful investment.

skiwi

I paid 25 euros for the 90 days officers, etc. - It's not a long shot to 50 at that point to just have cruisers and major advantage

Zak

normal moonshot: 5M Metal, 1.7M crystal, 2M debris field

100k moonshot, effectively instant, 2.5M metal, 850k crystal, 2M debris field

skiwi

There's no DF I think

Zak

Ah, that makes more sense

skiwi

21:57

I think -> I'm sure, it's in the help icon

Zak

Yeah, just checked

skiwi

LB5 isn't cheap

Still 9 hours away from building it though

Zak

LB6 for me. 28 hour build time.

definitely going to be the last I build for a while

skiwi

1 day for LB5 here

I can live with it though ^^

I think I'm going for nanite 6 on Izar tomorrow

TTGTB

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