@AIQ no worries, I'm not judging you at all, I'm from a different culture, most of the stuff you guys talk about I don't really understand because we don't have it. The problem with a large part of the First World is you don't have a continuous cultural context. You must have at one time in the past, but it's been broken. So you keep trying to solve issues everyone else solved in the stone age, and recreating the wheel as a 4d rhombicosidodecahedron. ;)