They did say "The team felt that you came across as extremely bright and that you could pick things up quickly and perhaps there may be other opportunities to move between roles within the agency. " so that has stroked my ego sufficiently
@Draken years ago when I was first in the position of hiring people I tried to give candidates decent feedback of the sort I would have liked as a candidate, all too frequently it bit me in the ass hard
@Draken probably the most egregious was the time I had an angry rant from the dad of a rejected candidate arguing with everything I'd said and calling me all kinds of names under sun (and threatening press etc against the company), but more typically the experience has been that candidates seem to take it as meaning that the interview hasn't ended and they try and respond to the feedback as if they can still get the job if they just argue hard enough against all my reasons
@MisterPositive Yeah, we've got stores in GA, FL, LA, TX and now TN. Maybe AL and MS too, not sure.
@motosubatsu Feedback is very good for interviewers to give but they do need to remember to start it with a, "while you aren't a good fit for us, in future interviews you may want to..." and if they still want to engage more, ignore them.
@ChrisE That's the kind of style I'm going for, the most recent candidate though failed as they were unable to talk about design patterns and when prompted to go through one pattern they mentioned, couldn't manage the core concepts. If they had talked about another design pattern or done something else to show they have knowledge, maybe. But they really were not able to go through the basics
@ChrisE oh I always couched it that way.. didn't seem to make a difference, I think some candidates will take any communication as an offer of dialogue
@Draken true enough.. and that was largely what I did, but tbh it just became more economical not to bother giving the detailed feedback in the first place. It may not have been a huge amount of time but even if I was spending 15 mins per candidate that soon added up and it was dead time
@motosubatsu I think I like to still believe in the paying it forward. I'm trying to help these people out, as I've had other people help me in the past and I would hope other people will help me in the future. It's a cold world where we all stop caring about each other
It's like being the assistant manager at McDonald's. A little bit of authority but not really and all of the blame when poo hits the fan. Except at least the McDonald's guy gets paid.
@Draken and that's noble approach.. and I certainly hope I'm not an uncaring soul - but there's only so many hours in the day and so much bandwidth to give
@avazula @Magisch Might be right. It could be March. I honestly am just speculating at the moment. All I know is that they know of the need and are trying to make it happen.
@MisterPositive Well, technically myspace still exists I believe. I think it's owned by Justin Timberlake. He'll probably invest in some company that makes answering machines next.
Looks interesting but I can't see it really taking off. It's like when people get p***ed at facebook and twitter and try to make competing products. None have succeeded much. A product can't exist long without a compelling need and "I hate those guys because..." isn't compelling enough.
@MisterPositive Well ... we lost a bunch of great people who just couldn't handle it anymore. Overall we're tired and we're sad, and we don't know what to do. But we stick together and I'm glad we have such a strong community spirit.
Remember the important thing. No matter what happens here, no matter who's in charge and even if it languishes, it will still be better than expertsexchange :D
It got closed as a dupe of Stack Overflow whereas it was about serverless infrastructures and I was like "what the heck people? We have Server Fault, why not Serverless's fault?"
If nothing else, this whole debacle should be a cautionary tale to other major websites. If you think your product is the content, it's not. It's the community.
I've seen so much failure because of the lack of understanding that the internet isn't about information it's about connecting people and their ideas together.. The "content" is just the side effect and therefore draws more people to what's important -- the community.
@ChrisE I shall admit, I'm amazed how they managed to create financial wealth from what purely is volunteering from thousands of people. The knowledge is from us, the time is from us, the moderation is from us ... we even offer the FRs!
@ChrisE I watched Tech Republic shoot themselves in the foot in much the same way. CBS bought them, they went corporate, drove all of the community away, and now it's just another add-cluttered site
@MisterPositive Meta and Area 51 will be the first ones to go. They have to be. SE has decided to be a top-down organization, which means you cannot be in a position where you can be undermined by the userbase
@motosubatsu I think the mistake many people made was in believing that we, as the userbase were customers. We are not, we are the product.
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