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Q: Etiquette related to stiffing poorly performing staff on Christmas gift after precedent was set last year

how_to_navigateI have an administrative assistant. Also, this is in the US, our office has around 20 people, and I'm one of the "higher" people (i.e. I have an admin), but I'm not really the boss of anyone. I generally do not give anyone holiday gifts in the office but, last year, succumbing to some peer pres...

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@ChrisE that is terrifying. A reason I am very glad I am in a country which has almost no guns. The fact anyone could have one in their car.
Guns being a right is, in my opinion, one of the craziest things I have ever heard. It should not be a right, but a privilege you need to earn.
 
 
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1:37 AM
@RoryAlsop it's a constitutional right and the supreme court in Heller v DC ruled that it is an individual right. The only way to change it is with 2/13 of both chambers of congress and 3/4 of the legislatures of all 50 states.
 
 
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7:34 AM
@ChrisE oh, I know that the US has decided it is a constitutional right. That is one of the things about the US that concerns the rest of the world - a country who has enshrined in their constitution something that was meant to protect the public from government hundreds of years ago, but that should have no place in modern society
 
7:46 AM
Man, still with the guns...
 
8:26 AM
Hello
 
8:41 AM
Damn that @DarkCygnus guy.. who does he think he is? Spending all that time when I'm asleep writing good answers to questions! :D
 
I wouldn't be Christmas without a Scrooge...
 
@Snow lemme guess.. this guy?
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Q: Etiquette related to stiffing poorly performing staff on Christmas gift after precedent was set last year

how_to_navigateI have an administrative assistant. Also, this is in the US, our office has around 20 people, and I'm one of the "higher" people (i.e. I have an admin), but I'm not really the boss of anyone. I generally do not give anyone holiday gifts in the office but, last year, succumbing to some peer pres...

 
Uhuh.
 
yeah, he sounds like a real cheery fellow
 
Yes, which is why I wasn't exactly offering sympathy.
 
8:51 AM
I thought we'd managed to offload all the "I'm a jerk and I want you to tell me it's ok" people to IPS but seemingly not
@Snow and exactly why I upvoted your answer :)
 
It was the "stiffing underperforming staff" that got my dander up.
I see that no one edited that part out of the title.
 
@Snow yeah me too.. I imagine no-one has edited it out because, let's face it the OP should be seen as what he is
I found myself wondering if the performance drop off of the admin assistant might have something to to with who they are an assistant to
 
If he walks like a duck, it seems fair that he should be allowed to look like a duck too.
 
@Snow quack..quack..quack
 
9:26 AM
oh god... looks like the "can my employer force me to open my macbook" question has attracted attention from the lemmings, two shoddy answers from 1 rep users already and it's too soon to protect it
 
Yeah. And it looks like you got harangued into adding a ton more to your answer. It should really be as simple as "it's their property, they own it".
 
@Snow harangued is probably a stretch.. lili was a touch brusque about it but not entirely unjustifiably so, I'm pretty well versed in the nuances of this area but was a bit lazy when I initially answered - essentially because I thought the question would get DVed into oblivion or even deleted so didn't feel like spending the effort
I actually took the comments about it being unanswerable as something of a challenge and decided to take my best shot
:)
 
You have far more patience than I.
 
9:43 AM
Got a Christmas quiz, should I google the answers
many of them I read when I in school
forgot
 
You can if you like, but that might be seen as cheating. Although sometimes quizzes like this are difficult and implies you treasure-hunt the answers.
 
I remember none, god old early teenage days
no worries
 
10:04 AM
@Snow never underestimate the time a pedantic aspie on a mission will spend on something :)
@Snow we've got a Christmas Movie quiz sheet here.. there's only three so far I haven't got
boom..four repcaps in a row, only two more to go to get "Epic"
that wordpress-hosting Q has been an absolute gold mine of rep
/smugmode
 
I am banned from wp stack
:(
 
@Nofel banned? how'd that happen?
 
SE ban me from posting is a history we have together
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so they mixed and mashed my old knowledge of WP and new one
and suspended my account coz " that their contributions are making the site better (or at very least, not making it worse)"
 
is that on wordpress se?
 
yes
funny I know a lot of WP than Magento but on Magento I never got that even my Questions were more naive there coz I am naive
and panic back then
 
10:18 AM
Nice one moto, bad luck Nofel.
 
@Nofel I'm no expert but your profile doesn't look like it's suspended, it's showing 349 rep
 
10:46 AM
@motosubatsu yes, that would show a 1 if suspended. It may just be an automated ask block
 
10:56 AM
I feel so bored
TGIF FTW
 
11:19 AM
Quiet here in the office today. It's usually quiet on Friday, but today even more so.
 
Ho Ho Ho
I got a gift
and it is a colouring book
 
@Nofel sweet :)
 
courtesy of office just a x-mas go around
 
Stay inside the lines.
 
I haven't started driving yet
jk
what was that for @Snow
 
11:31 AM
The colouring book, you're supposed to colour inside the lines.
 
I will give it to little one
I just hate how children r so attrated to ipad and yt
just hate it
he knows how to play songs, subscribe andd change video
even skip ad
and he just turned 2 yrs 2 weeks back
I need to change my biggest problem.
going off to news site again and again
when I do no understand something in my code
the time fly by and still I am reading news and tweets
 
12:15 PM
Morning all....short day for me. Office Holiday party.
AND as a bonus, the building were in is providing us breakfast!!
And It just occurred to me that I might be the fasted to 30K
then I remembered Joe. :)
 
@MisterPositive do we work in same comppany
I might be able to get cookies of u
 
@Nofel Parenting stack exchange has some posts on this exact topic :-)
 
@Nofel nope. just apparently good holiday companies.
 
@MisterPositive no breaky for us
 
bummer
we get 1/2 the day off
 
12:53 PM
no 1/2 day here.. but then I've only got one more week to work in 2017 anyway
 
yeah, I have a week of time off left. Gonna roll it into next year though...
 
1:29 PM
@MisterPositive one of the upsides to the way leave works for contractors here is that I don't have to worry about that sort of thing, how much or how little leave I take in a year is basically up to me
 
@motosubatsu True
 
1:41 PM
@MisterPositive the flipside of course is that I'm ridiculously bad at making myself take the time - at least when I was perm I'd get hassled to use my leave up, now I have to hassle myself! :D
 
@motosubatsu I waited too long between breaks last time. I was becoming an asshole.
 
@MisterPositive yeah I turn into a right grumpy sod if I don't get a proper recharge
 
@RoryAlsop thanks
 
@motosubatsu gonna do more frequent shorter breaks....
 
@MisterPositive yeah I think this is a good strategy.. have been thinking I'll try and do that next year (although candor compels me to admit that this isn't the first time I've said that - I've just never followed through!)
 
1:57 PM
yeah, good intentions...
 
Star wars fan?
 
Who? Me?
nah.....
 
Anypmr
ur cookie fan
I remmebered u when eating cookie last night
 
Cookies.....
with what @Nofel
?
......
 
Milk
I found a way to warm milk in kettle
 
2:07 PM
@Nofel Very good sir. Very good...
 
I am so tired of recruiters
donno where they get my email
any suggestion?
 
@Nofel Everywhere.
I get 10 - 30 recruiter emails a day
 
Well that's grim - someone left an invoice for a headstone on the inter-departmental printer.
 
@Snow WOW
 
@Nofel if they are wrong (I read your CV and have the perfect role...) or if they are crap (no research done) they go on my blocklist. You'd think the numbers would reduce over time...
 
2:17 PM
@Snow yea wow
 
@Snow oh, that's a bit sad
 
@RoryAlsop yes totally out of my league, c#,.net like "Can u open my cv to have a read?"
 
Probably someone who's WFH and forgot to change the printer. It's going to wait there all weekend now.
 
@Snow the thing that made me sad about life was when I came to know U need to pay for ur grave and shroud
sometimes I think, who created money the whole evil.
 
@Snow maybe throw it away for them?
 
2:21 PM
@MisterPositive I have no idea who's print out it is. It might even be someone in the office - they same printer covers the entire floor.
 
@Nofel my wife and I are against burial so trying to decide what might be fun to do with our bodies once we go. Burning up on re-entry to the atmosphere is cool, but expensive and impacts the environment. Burial at sea is a bit meh (I'm allergic to fish) so I'm thinking of donating my body to science :-)
although being twanged into a tree (as Eddie Izzard suggested) could be vaguely amusing
 
@Snow Oh.
 
Well burial in groud is eco friendly
 
@Nofel not the way most of the western world does it
 
and in time u become part of soil
 
2:23 PM
which would be fine
 
@RoryAlsop Donno how hey do it.
 
@RoryAlsop Holy cow that is overwhelming...
 
they*
 
but in the west that process takes huuuuge amounts of time
@MisterPositive it is a pain in the ... is what it is :-)
@Nofel friend of mine did his CV in a format that could be read as a pdf, rtf, tex formatted and something else. Clever, but didn't get him any more interviews...
 
A one way helicopter ride over Vesuvius should do the trick...
 
2:24 PM
@Snow Oooh - new one for the list. I like it :-)
 
I too will not have a giant funeral bill. I will be cremated ( hopefully ) and my ashes spread in the sea.
 
I put my wife's ashes in the garden. The roses are beautiful every single year.
 
@Snow All the roses in this garden are from previous cats. They make good fertiliser when they finally go, so we have always planted them with a small rose bush.
 
in our religion, person dies, u bath him/her (same gender give it covering all private parts), cover them in white shroud and bury them.
 
Memorial gardens like that are rather nice
 
2:29 PM
ofcourse one last prayer before burial
 
@RoryAlsop It's not a memorial garden as such. I dug a deep hole, put the ashes in and planted a rose on top. It's not overtly a memorial, but it is to me.
 
@Snow May God bless her soul (if u accept my prayers)
 
Thank you sir, and accepted.
 
When my mrs says she is gonna die soon coz she is ill, Inside I get shaken so bad
ppl thing its love marriage
 
@Snow That is an awesome idea my friend.
 
2:32 PM
@Snow where they bath my dad in our back gardens on his death I fear walking there
I m just afraid
 
@Snow I am very much an atheist, but I do believe in the memory left behind helping others.
 
I'm a firm believer in life and love not ending with death.
 
true that @Snow
 
@Snow agreed
 
As someone put it, death is just a curtain
we cannot see ppl behind them.
In Islam, they say there is a holy night in Ramadan, all souls are let go of to go on earth and meet there relatives and loved ones
 
2:37 PM
That sounds real nice.
 
same night the fate of everyone is written down (who will be born and die) for the next yr.
and prayer of that night is equal to prayer of 1000 yrs.
 
@Nofel very cool way to think about it....
 
its beautiful hw ppl rush to pray and ask forgiveness as ur old sins r given away too
like a new child born.
 
morning
 
morning @ChrisE
 
2:39 PM
@ChrisE Morning sir.
 
sad thing for me is I was told that u need to learn the book in arabic
 
@ChrisE I mean just morning.
 
which led me to not read it
 
Good morning, Mr E.
 
now I know u can read it in any language
 
2:46 PM
It's snowing here. Well, it's more like snizzle.
 
I love thr work I produce without my manager harrasing my arse. @TheSnarkKnight I been told the latest work before I go is beauiful
@Snow u made me wait for 1 hour for train morning
and I was abt to slip as well
 
@Snow I drove through about half a mile of light snowfall this morning and we've had a sleet shower here a few hours ago.. nothing serious yet but it did make me sort out my remote access this morning should it dump a load of the weekend and I have to WFH on monday :)
 
@motosubatsu Does A6 have remote heating
like I heard few cars u can do it from mobile
 
Well, it's stopped now.
 
to turn on heating
 
2:51 PM
My old Ranger Rover had remove heating. you could use it on a timer, or from the keyfob.
 
what is remove heating
 
remote.
 
@Nofel not sure on the newer ones tbh.. mine doesn't but then it is 17 years old! An ex-colleague had a Jag XF with it and he said it was awesome
 
A6 I am looking at is 2017 @motosubatsu
 
It's usually an optional extra. An expensive one.
 
2:53 PM
again, new job might be volatile but my mrs say it doesnt change anything
ur paying for yaris
 
How are you going to be able to afford that, Nofel?
 
even if job is lost
@Snow afford what A6 or RR
 
A6. They're pretty top end cars.
 
@Nofel yep just checked and from the model after mine (so 2006 onwards) it was available as an optional extra, as snow says though it's not usually a cheap option
 
Remember seeing an American pickup that had a butane heater for winter that you could turn on from inside the house
Here in Scotland it never gets cold enough to warrant anything like that
 
2:57 PM
@Snow The amount I am paying for my yaris is same as A6
with insurance
coz both are APR free
I can pay extra bt no APR
diesel might be a problem coz I have hybrid now and monthly its 100-140 quid
fuel
 
@Nofel unless you are going to be doing more than 10-15k miles a year I wouldn't bother with a diesel
 
And you need long journeys. Diesels hate short trips.
 
they aren't that efficient for short trips and also you can easily kill the Diesel Particulate Filter that way - and that gets expensive
hehe.. beat me to it Snow
 
@motosubatsu yes we do around 8-10 miles
 
Go for petrol/hybrid.
 
3:02 PM
^this
 
My commute is 40 miles a day. diesel makes sense for me.
I get about 45-50mpg if I try hard enough.
 
@Snow yeah that's firmly in diesel territory
 
why so
 
of course I commute 32 miles each way in a V8 petrol but that's because I'm a lunatic
 
why diesel goes good on long miles
and not short
 
3:07 PM
@Nofel two main reasons 1) they take ages to get up to correct operating temperature and are very inefficient while they are doing so and 2) on a modern diesel there is a filter called a DPF, this gets clogged up over time and can only be cleaned by doing a long run at relatively high speed
 
The DPF needs to get hot enough to work. It only gets hot after a long journey at a decent speed.
 
if you don't do the trips that can sustain a regular DPF cleaning cycle then it gets completely clogged and breaks meaning they need to be replaced which is very, very expensive
 
So 40 mile journeys at 40mph will also kill it.
 
@motosubatsu when u say correct operating temp. what u mean
 
@Nofel we all told you, the problem was never you :D
 
3:14 PM
@nofel when the temperature guage on the dashboard gets to the middle. that's the correct operating temperature.
 
@Nofel what Snow said
I just nipped out for a ciggy and it was snowing very, very lightly
 
@Snow I remember being told that if it goes toward H, ur car is having problem. It should be more towards C
 
hope it doesn't decide to get more serious about it before I get home!
 
@TheSnarkKnight I believe I can overcome but I am so distracted and then tired
 
@Nofel on most gauges in the middle is ideal but it does vary from car to car
 
3:20 PM
distracted by news , twitter and get so lost that days pass by and ur like what
 
On all of my cars, the temp needle always stopped dead centre.
 
or when I get home get tired n don't wanna do anything
and cannot wake early in morning.
 
@Snow on my classic subarus it was always just a tiny bit below halfway
 
@motosubatsu That's because you weren't driving them quickly enough.
 
@Snow lol.. not for lack of trying :)
 
3:23 PM
Drifting would probably help.
 
@Snow all my drifts have been at least somewhat unintentional - despite what I may have claimed to any passengers at the time
 
So the way it is now @motosubatsu @Snow my HP term end end of next yr, either I pay 6k or re finance it, or I can give them back with money around 1800 so I am out of HP and get the A6, which is more value by the end of 2 yrs which accoring to audi will be 12k
In both cases If I fail to pass my probation in next job, I still have to pay for my car
 
@Nofel I'd be tempted to hold on to the Yaris at least until out of probation at the new job
but I'm quite risk-averse on things like that
 
@motosubatsu I don't see how it will be like coz I will be paying for yaris too even If i Loose job
 
@Nofel but you'll be in the phase of the HP on the Yaris where you can exit relatively easily
certainly a lot easier than it would be to get out of a fresh deal
 
3:31 PM
yes that make sense. but even If I loose a job on audi
I have to pay 5k to return it back
6k for yaris
 
@Thunderchild cool namne
 
coz audi is there, my bro in law bought it out of business and now he cannot do business or pay for it
 
@MetaEd How often do you change your picture....
 
@Nofel ahh so it's not a case of you leasing a new one yourself?
 
It is already out
 
3:33 PM
that does change the picture a bit - is your bro in law's car financed at all or does he own it outright?
 
standing there and he is paying for nothing.
what u mean
 
@MisterPositive Pretty often. I have a bunch of seasonal or anniversary pictures, and a few of me, that I rotate in when appropriate. In fact it's about time I went Christmas isn't it.
 
@Nofel does he own the car or is it on a HP or lease deal?
 
PCP @motosubatsu
 
@Nofel hmm... you'll want to make sure the finance is settled properly
ideally he should settle the finance, you confirm that it's clear and then you give him whatever cash you are paying for the car
 
3:38 PM
He got it on partnership with a guy who was business partner
althrough it is on his name
 
@Nofel I know he's family but I definitely wouldn't be handing over any cash until I saw documents confirming the finance was settled
 
When u say finance what u mean @motosubatsu
 
@Nofel the outstanding amount on the PCP deal
until that's paid off the finance company can still take the car away for non-payment
 
or you can abandon it and walk away.
which is the better option when the car is worth less than the final valuation as stated on the agreement.
 
@motosubatsu he cannot pay pcp coz he cannot afford it, so I be paying on his behalf
coz I owe the car from him.
@Snow how do u work that out
 
3:47 PM
I've done this before. There's a termination clause in the agreement. You don't have to pay the final balloon payment, you just hand the car back.
It's essentially a lease with the option to buy the car at the end of the finance period.
 
that is only PCP I think
 
@Snow so would you be paying the settlement or the ongoing payments?
if it's the latter I think you are on dodgy ground legally speaking
 
bt how u do final valuation before end of term to check if it is worth or not
 
When I handed my Evoque back, I paid back the requisite minimum amount and handed the car back. This is how I thought that PCP agreements work.
 
@Snow Your up!@
 
3:51 PM
For my valuation, I went to a garage and asked them what the trade-in value would be.
@MisterPositive I'm what?
 
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Q: How to deal with a manager that is (unintentionally) wasting my time and makes me feel very uncomfortable?

AlexeiSome time ago a manager from another department organized a meeting to discuss about tech stack to use for rewriting a small internal application. He gathered more tech oriented persons from various departments for this. However, members of his department used all the allocated time, so that the...

This has your name all over it.
 
It's too late in the week for me to cope with that amount of angst.
 
@Snow I reached the same conclusion.. I just don't have the energy for that at this stage
this week has seen a bit of a spate of that sort of thing.. I keep having to check to make sure I haven't wandered onto Playground.SE by mistake
@Snow "Let it go" <- I hate you
 
I answered. I'm not sure I made much sense or whether it's even relevant to the situation. I've had too much candy and my jaw aches.
@motosubatsu You're welcome.
 
you just had to put that in my head just before I leave for the weekend didn't you?
on that note (pun intended) I'm outta here.. laters people!
 
4:01 PM
enjoy your weekend.
 
4:17 PM
you too @Snow
 
yea enjoy @Snow
 
@motosubatsu lol, it seems that only I remain after UTC 00:00 ... somebody has to help those users
besides around that time several new users start posting
I don't know why though
 
 
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7:12 PM
Have a good weekend everyone
@TheSnarkKnight sup
 
 
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8:21 PM
weird it's so empty in here. You'd thing the winter storm in the South was everywhere. :)
 
@ChrisE your office?
 
I worked from home today. The snow was coming down pretty hard and I didn't want to have to deal with Southern drivers. "ERMAGERD! SNOW! I CAN'T GO FASTER THAN 10 MPH!"
Or
"I'm slowing down, so I'll just hit my brakes really hard. It's not like I'll slide or anything"
I was going through my parking lot at my complex doing fishtails (on purpose) and other people were barely moving.
No lie, this was my childhood. This was maybe an hour from where I grew up (and the whole state was like this)
So I have little patience for people who are scared of snow. :)
 

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