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12:02 AM

@rockwalrus-stopharmingMonica Maybe the site I main at is special but that wouldn't help much. The not-terrible answers normally don't get downvotes. — Peilonrayz 27 secs ago

#338686 Peilonrayz (2152 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 18) | posted 6 hours ago by I am not the way you speak (1388 rep) | edited 6 hours ago by I am not the way you speak (1388 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Ha! Because they were saying soooo much before........NOT! :-| — tu-Reinstate Monica-dor duh 2 mins ago

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12:19 AM

Get down to -1337 and you overwrap the FAIL integer right around to WIN — SurpriseDog 1 min ago

Get down to -32768 and you overflow (underflow?) the FAIL integer right around to WIN — SurpriseDog 2 mins ago

@samcarter Thanks! — Someone 1 min ago

Alright lads. I've have touched on this in the philosophy and A.I. chat-rooms about this topic. (chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/52558569#52558569‌) — Tautological Revelations 30 secs ago

#332718 Tautological Revelations (127 rep) | Q: Where is the appropriate place to post a question about the topic of "automated reasoning?" (score: 1) | posted 84 days ago by Tautological Revelations (127 rep) | edited 84 days ago by Tautological Revelations (127 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | Co

Once we switch to your platform, how will you handle the traffic? — Frédéric Hamidi 11 secs ago

#338708 Frédéric Hamidi (6781 rep) | Q: To what extent can I responsibly advertise an open-source project related to SE? (score: 3) | posted 44 minutes ago by connectyourcharger (2168 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Noted. The question itself was not intended as an advertisement but I can see how it could have been taken that way. — connectyourcharger 25 secs ago

#338711 connectyourcharger (2168 rep) | A: To what extent can I responsibly advertise an open-source project related to SE? (score: 1) | posted 16 minutes ago by PolyGeo (21001 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Looks like it’s time for #stackexit — Некто 23 secs ago

Maybe the science and logic related exchanges can get a pass on this one — Некто 27 secs ago

What is ESL? I'm assuming it has nothing to do with banking, credit or e-sports. — Peilonrayz 44 secs ago

@Peilonrayz I don't think it would be surprising, but it would definitely wouldn't be in their best interest to wipe it considering how it would look against them (the whole censorship issue). — connectyourcharger 19 secs ago

#338708 connectyourcharger (2168 rep) | Q: To what extent can I responsibly advertise an open-source project related to SE? (score: 3) | posted 57 minutes ago by connectyourcharger (2168 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I wouldn't be surprised if your profile's about me is wiped. — Peilonrayz 1 min ago

#338708 Peilonrayz (2152 rep) | Q: To what extent can I responsibly advertise an open-source project related to SE? (score: 3) | posted 57 minutes ago by connectyourcharger (2168 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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1:21 AM

@Schrödinger'scat The algorithm starts by trusting a few hard-coded users, and then trust flows through them at a limited rate to the users they trust, and through those users at a limited rate, etc., with each user consuming one unit of trust until there is no more trust to flow. It gets a little more complicated to deal with users who trust each other, but those details aren't important. Users that aren't connected to the trust source never get any trust, while the number of users that can receive trust through a confused user is limited by the amount of trust that is allowed to flow through — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 30 secs ago

#338698 rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4374 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 5) | posted 5 hours ago by Schrödinger's cat (741 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@rockwalrus-stopharmingMonica Replace "few hard-coded users" by "few competent and fair referees" and we get rather close. ;-) That is, if one could make sure that there is a group of neutral and competent referees, a lot of problems could be solved. If it were just not for the if ... ;-) — Schrödinger's cat 1 min ago

#338698 Schrödinger's cat (741 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 5) | posted 5 hours ago by Schrödinger's cat (741 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Peilonrayz the author suggests dividing by the number of times the item has been viewed in a case like that. — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 1 min ago

#338686 rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4374 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 18) | posted 7 hours ago by I am not the way you speak (1396 rep) | edited 7 hours ago by I am not the way you speak (1396 rep

@rockwalrus-stopharmingMonica So first -> more views, more views -> top, top -> more views? — Peilonrayz 2 mins ago

#338686 Peilonrayz (2152 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 18) | posted 7 hours ago by I am not the way you speak (1396 rep) | edited 7 hours ago by I am not the way you speak (1396 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@LаngLаngС Please, look at the comment section of literally any question or answer and come back and tell me with a straight face that mods are removing all comments/answers not praising the company. Then maybe accept the fact that your comments were not removed as part of some grand conspiracy. If you want your comments to stick around (longer), make them understandable, productive, and on-topic. — Rubiksmoose 2 mins ago

#338666 Rubiksmoose (3122 rep) | A: Does the Fram's ban on Wikipedia seem similar to recent events? What can Stack Exchange learn from it? (score: 16) | posted 17 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11046 rep) | edited 8 hours ago by Peter Mortensen (6315 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Peilonrayz English as a Second Language, i.e. those for whom English is learned rather than their native language. — Nate Barbettini 2 mins ago

Welcome to Meta Stack Exchange! This site is for discussions, bug reports, and feature requests about the Stack Exchange network of Q&A sites; unfortunately, we have to mark this question as "off-topic" for this site. Please post your question on the correct site, and be sure to read that site's help guidelines to make sure your question is on-topic for that site. — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 45 secs ago

#338713 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (33870 rep) | Q: Use kali linux 1.1.0a desktop with a kali linux 2019 (score: -5) | posted 13 minutes ago by pastelkona (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@TheGuywithTheHat I'm fine with this ugly stain on SE's face until SE takes responsibility. Obviously they will eventually take this down on their own initiative, but I don't see any reason to let them off the hook just because they sat around and did nothing for months. — Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

Using Tampermonkey on Firefox, this script doesn't seem to work. What program do you recommend? — Stormblessed 2 mins ago

#338652 Stormblessed (6916 rep) | A: Let me filter just questions in the mod tools for deletion and undeletion (score: 5) | posted 22 hours ago by Samuel Liew (4729 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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2:26 AM

Welcome to Meta Stack Exchange! This looks like a question intended to be asked on another site in the Stack Exchange network. This site, Meta Stack Exchange, is intended for discussions, bug reports, and feature requests about the Stack Exchange network of Q&A sites. If a site exists on which this question would be on-topic, you may be able to ask your question there; unfortunately, we have to mark this as "off-topic" for this Meta site. Sorry for the confusion. — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 1 min ago

#338714 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (33870 rep) | Q: Pontius Pilate "Book of Guilt" (score: 0) | posted 2 minutes ago by NardoD (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@ChrisF You deleted my post. Are you applying for a paid position at SE? — faintsignal 1 min ago

@Stormblessed seems to be working on FF70. On page load wait a few seconds for all the sections to load first, then the buttons will appear. — Samuel Liew 2 mins ago

#338652 Samuel Liew (4729 rep) | A: Let me filter just questions in the mod tools for deletion and undeletion (score: 5) | posted 22 hours ago by Samuel Liew (4729 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Some more Typos in API documentation — Arulkumar 1 min ago

I remember weeks ago when people suggested holding an election to have mods who enjoy the support of the community. I think that idea was dismissed because it would take weeks before they could get to work. Perhaps it's something to reconsider. — JJ for Transparency and Monica 1 min ago

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3:14 AM

That assumes 2 things. That we don't have the support of the community , and that any replacement will be any better. This has been meta policy for quite a while, especially in more... emotive posts, and nearly all of meta is emotive. Its also rather frustrating to find something that should have been gone a long time ago flagged a month or two after it was posted. Comments are meant for clarification. If you really feel you want to call for mods to be removed, maybe ask as a question? I'm sure you'd get a few upvotes even. — Journeyman Geek ♦ 2 mins ago

Now you're being emotional. My comment was in reply to the mods have enough on their plates. I took that as saying that you're understaffed. That's what you meant, right? — JJ for Transparency and Monica 1 min ago

The expression you are looking for is: "Bull in a China Shop, the expression "Elephant in the Room" means something completely different and has nothing to do with porcelain. — Rob 51 secs ago

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3:44 AM

@Dom can I delete my account? — Maika Sakuranomiya 2 mins ago

#337399 Maika Sakuranomiya (978 rep) | A: How do moderators decide how long to suspend users for? (score: 30) | posted 17 days ago by Journeyman Geek (71355 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@JJforTransparencyandMonica with the current drama on MSE, even Tinkerbell seem to have stated the same in a comment to the OP, that MSE is understaffed;. We don't really have the time (or the energy, or the spoons) to look at everything else too right now. I used to do it that here, when moderation loads were lighter, but currently it's just not feasible if we want to keep up with flags — yagmoth555 - GoFoundMe Monica 2 mins ago

To be fair, I have recently redirected someone to a subreddit for a very niche topic that has been brought up many times there, but there is no SE/SO site or tag that would encompass the entire question. — Drew 2 mins ago

If you're having score problems I feel bad for you, son, I got 999 downvotes and they're still not done. — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

Is it me or are CMs now exempt from rep changes by downvotes? — faintsignal 1 min ago

@yagmoth555-GoFoundMeMonica (at) Journeyman Geek, at one's recommendation I have posted this as a different question. — JJ for Transparency and Monica 12 secs ago

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4:31 AM

Thanks, I've clarified in my question that I'm also asking the mods. For now I'm not accepting this answer because I'm really looking for an answer specific to this question at this time (not this time of day, but this time of they year, if you will). — JJ for Transparency and Monica 2 mins ago

#338718 JJ for Transparency and Monica (2129 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 0) | posted 4 minutes ago by PolyGeo (21103 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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5:40 AM

#338719 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (33890 rep) | Q: MacBook Pro storage (score: 0) | posted 4 minutes ago by Todd Branston (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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6:11 AM

apple.stackexchange.com — ankii 2 mins ago

#338719 ankii (1037 rep) | Q: MacBook Pro storage (score: -5) | posted 35 minutes ago by Todd Branston (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Do look for other related questions beforehand though! — ankii 2 mins ago

#338719 ankii (1037 rep) | Q: MacBook Pro storage (score: -5) | posted 42 minutes ago by Todd Branston (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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6:31 AM

Related: Are the meta mods overwhelmed? (Oct 4) — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

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7:13 AM

It's a good idea to add the actual date because weeks or months from now, and if the post is edited another time, users won't know which month (or year) the update refers to. — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

#332241 Mari-Lou A (13922 rep) | Q: Strange nonexistent link in a specific user's Top Network Posts (score: 21) | posted 97 days ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (33900 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (33900 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

From what I can understand, the link on the EL&Uer's profile appears to point to a deleted post on ELL,which leads to a 404 page, even though I have enough rep to see deleted posts on both sites. — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

@faintsignal this post recieved +80/-395. Thats +800 rep from upvotes and -790 rep from downvotes, or a +10 net gain. — mag 2 mins ago

It is like democracy. Mostly it sucks, but we don't have better system. Problem is not in voting and reputation system on their own, it is more that we don't have any additional tools to ensure really bad answers are either removed or marked as bad (beyond the comment) and similar. Also this is why it is of utmost importance that old, knowledgeable users stay and contribute if nothing more then to help cleaning up such things or commenting at least. But everything SE has done lately is going in completely opposite direction. — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 2 mins ago

#338709 Her Majesty Queen of ARC (5283 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 2) | posted 7 hours ago by gbjbaanb (908 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

May I ask why you deleted your two answers on that page? I get deleting the humourous one, which is still a pity because a touch of humour would lighten things up considerably, but why the second post? It looks perfectly good answer. — Mari-Lou A 2 mins ago

Personally, I would have left the "anointed", it conjures up all sorts of images due to my Catholic upbringing. — Mari-Lou A 17 secs ago

Just a year ago, Meta.SE had no moderators, and was moderated entirely by SE staff. — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 1 min ago

I did mean to type "anointed", it was just a little humour, but I can see how that might not be understood by all. I'm fine with the edit. — Snow 2 mins ago

Because I felt that the comment stream attached to my answer significantly derailed my intent. It was painful to read those comments and the intent behind them. They contributed to my decision to take a sabbatical from the network. — Snow 3 mins ago

We need some humour man... Oops, can I say "man" around here? Is that considered sexist? There is actually a question on EL&U about this usage, so don't bother folks. — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

We need some humor man... Oops, can I say "man" around here? Is that considered sexist? There is actually a question on EL&U about this usage, so don't bother folks. Six years ago... ahh, fond memories. — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

I think you should undelete the second answer, it's useful, it's informative. The comments in of themselves are not hurtful or filled with spite, just a manifestation of the lost trust between users and TPTB. — Mari-Lou A 2 mins ago

MSE is not understaffed, it is just inundated with too much users that like to push buttons .... — rene 45 secs ago

@rene yes! The "helpful flags" syndrome. (she quickly checks her helpful flags counter...) — Mari-Lou A 42 secs ago

No. They're hurtful to me, and to my natural tendency to positively support the community that I'm serving. — Snow 1 min ago

But the comments are not aimed at one person specifically, the users commenting are among the most rational and fair minded I know. There is no animosity, there's bitterness, yes, but it's all very civil. I think it a shame that the answer and the comments are only visible to 10K users. Have you reconsidered your decision to delete all your accounts? Keep your TWP one, forget about the others. — Mari-Lou A 2 mins ago

This is incredibly frustrating. I don't understand how the incentives are supposed to work, this is for supposedly saving the tactical down-voter exactly one point? There are so many times I need to edit a vote because I realized that my perception was wrong. And now it's forever stained in the wrong direction. This appears to have an overall much worse outcome than the extremely rare tactical downvote, which we don't even know if this helps with that problem at all anyway. Why can't people just flag the post if they tactically downvoted? — Nicholas Pipitone 1 min ago

Some tips from Jeff Atwood blog.codinghorror.com/… — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

#338708 Mari-Lou A (13922 rep) | Q: To what extent can I responsibly advertise an open-source project related to SE? (score: 11) | posted 8 hours ago by connectyourcharger (2272 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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8:24 AM

@Drew, that is hardly considered "constantly", and thus should be fine. Even more so when there is no support to be expected from the SE network. — Luuklag 17 secs ago

You estimate between 10-20 moderators would have been needed in the eye of the storm. But at the same time you say that more moderators "are not really" needed. Can you please be more specific? 8-10 weeks ago there was a need but not today? I find a lot in this answer is just hyperbole. — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

#338722 Mari-Lou A (13922 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 0) | posted 16 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Where's the link to Snow's comment? — Mari-Lou A 45 secs ago

#338722 Mari-Lou A (13922 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 0) | posted 17 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Mari-LouA I reworked the answer, please have a look. I am referring to Snows answer right here on this question. — GhostCat says Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

#338722 GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 0) | posted 24 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | edited 2 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

There could be a few things going on. 1) It is really broken. 2) Items take for ever to get out of the queue, so you will see it again in the next hour, but already handled that item. 3) There are a lot of reviewers so the queue is actually cleared right before you see the red mark. — Luuklag 5 secs ago

#338688 Luuklag (4488 rep) | Q: Red Indicator Light Falsely Positive Most of the Time (score: 9) | posted 14 hours ago by Laurent R. (207 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

This question seems very interesting - profoundly hated (towering perversely downward into the negavotes mightily and gloriousunly) yet also creating vigorous and lively discussion with a profoundly loved top answer. — The_Sympathizer 1 min ago

@rene that's an odd way to say "concerned users". Sure, there are (?) a few trolls, but not all. — Script47 34 secs ago

Oh, it's not a quote. I thought it was. — Mari-Lou A 59 secs ago

The voting system is not a rating system. That's interesting because I've caught myself doing the following: 1) I read an answer; 2) I like it; 3) I go to upvote it; 4) Then I see the answer already has 3 upvotes; 5) I ask myself whether the answer merits 4 upvotes and conclude not; 6) I don't upvote the answer I like. (On reflection, this isn't entirely irrational. It means that a future answer which is excellent will have more chance of replacing a current answer which is good.) — Rounin says Je suis Monica 31 secs ago

#338680 Rounin says Je suis Monica (972 rep) | Q: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 26) | posted 16 hours ago by Sextus Empiricus (2923 rep) | edited 20 minutes ago by Sextus Empiricus (2923 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fp

At the moment, the tags are still in use. By that single question. Hence no removal of the tags, right? If you want the tags removed, remove them from the question (I just replaced them with a more useful tag) and wait till they're roomba'd, but they won't be roomba'd while they're in use. Am I misunderstanding the situation? — Mast 46 secs ago

#338723 Mast (2408 rep) | Q: Single use tags are not deleted if they were recreated via a rollback (score: 4) | posted 43 minutes ago by Glorfindel (100245 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Mari-LouA Reworded a bit more, I hope this is more clear ... — GhostCat says Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

#338722 GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 0) | posted 47 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | edited 1 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Tags that only exist on one question are automatically removed after 6 months, unless the tag has a tag wiki. I think it's better to leave that question in its former state, in order not to obstruct the analysis. — Glorfindel 1 min ago

There is no way that MSE will ever need ten or more moderators, that's just an exaggeration. The OP is probably thinking of one or two new mods at the most. — Mari-Lou A 2 mins ago

I like it. I feel that it Stack Overflow should generally be a platform where new users are encouraged to answer rather than ask questions. Until they have received a given number of upvotes on their answers, then asking questions should not be an available option. This way you only get new questions from those who are capable of answering questions from others. — Rounin says Je suis Monica 55 secs ago

#338725 Rounin says Je suis Monica (972 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 1) | posted 11 minutes ago by Mari-Lou A (13932 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Mari-LouA Never say never. That is simple math: how many flags/requests can a single volunteer moderator handle in a sustainable way per day? On the other hand: how many flags come in during such peak times, and what is the time that community members expect between raising a flag, and it being worked on? — GhostCat says Reinstate Monica just now

#338722 GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 0) | posted 53 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | edited 7 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11078 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Ah, that part. Yes, I'm not sure why that didn't happen so that looks like a bug indeed. Note: considering the only people who can answer this are the developers and I'd already made the edit, I don't think your rollback is going to help with the analysis. — Mast 1 min ago

@RouninsaysJesuisMonica It's actually the other way round but I'll change it because it's a better idea. — Mari-Lou A 32 secs ago

#338725 Mari-Lou A (13932 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 1) | posted 13 minutes ago by Mari-Lou A (13932 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Rounin indeed it might work for some like that (also when it would be a rating system, people might change their rating based on what the current rating is, in order to change the average more strongly towards their favored rating; although I have a feeling this behaviour is decreasing). But this makes the variation in the voting extremely random. It will depend a lot on whatever people happen to stumble on the question, and in addition in which order. (Related: I still want to check out to see whether the score distribution of answers changes when there are more answers) — Sextus Empiricus just now

#338680 Sextus Empiricus (2933 rep) | Q: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 27) | posted 16 hours ago by Sextus Empiricus (2933 rep) | edited 32 minutes ago by Sextus Empiricus (2933 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

But you're saying "now" and I'm responding to that. Hyperbole meet hyperbole. — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

#338722 Mari-Lou A (13932 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: -1) | posted 58 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11076 rep) | edited 12 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11076 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Whenever whole comment threads get deleted without a case by case judgement, it probably hints at a shortage of moderators. MSE probably needs some more, especially since the activity has increased. — Trilarion 1 min ago

@Script47 don't put words in my mouth. That is not appreciated. — rene 2 mins ago

The close reason is definitely wrong. This question is about the software the powers the Stack Exchange network unlike many, many others. — Trilarion 59 secs ago

@rene I'm not, maybe you misread/misunderstood what I wrote. I'm making a a point that saying 'inundated with too much users that like to push buttons' is wrong because you don't know that for sure. — Script47 1 min ago

@Someone You're welcome! — samcarter 2 mins ago

@Mari-LouA Well, we talk about the current situation. What I am saying is: I consider it not reasonable to add moderators now, and I don't see an urgent need to staff so many moderators in advance that similar future peaks are covered. — GhostCat says Reinstate Monica 33 secs ago

#338722 GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11076 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: -1) | posted 1 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11076 rep) | edited 17 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11076 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Script47 I'm for sure a lot of users push on add comment, ask question, post your answer, join chat and before that push on a lot of buttons. That is not wrong, that is just a fact that I rephrased a bit. This will hold in court. — rene 44 secs ago

Don't count those blessings yet, those same contractors are now posting to SO. — Uphill Luge 18 secs ago

#338553 Uphill Luge (9482 rep) | A: What effect does the current crisis have on the SE network? (score: 70) | posted 2 days ago by Heinzi (1714 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I believe as well that quality and sustainability of the voting system is related to the increase of low rep users 'disturbing' the quality control. (Some of the effects that I describe with the graphs are however less dependent on that and relate simply to the growth in number of questions and answers, no matter what their quality is - although quality and changes in it plays a role as well of course). — Sextus Empiricus 1 min ago

#338725 Sextus Empiricus (2943 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 1) | posted 30 minutes ago by Mari-Lou A (13932 rep) | edited 16 minutes ago by Mari-Lou A (13932 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Hi Peter F. Lassen, welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — Glorfindel 22 secs ago

#338727 Glorfindel (100255 rep) | Q: rsync in a sequential mode (score: -1) | posted 4 minutes ago by Peter F. Lassen (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Good to see comment threads in this post are also pruned :) — Luuklag 45 secs ago

Also, when this is the problem, 'too many people jumping to answer simple questions', then we should increase closure efforts. — Sextus Empiricus 50 secs ago

#338725 Sextus Empiricus (2943 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 2) | posted 36 minutes ago by Mari-Lou A (13942 rep) | edited 22 minutes ago by Mari-Lou A (13942 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

However, I believe your suggested solution does not go far enough in restraining low rep contributor's answers (answers which stimulates the idea that low quality questions are ok). There are two problems with it. 1) there are many contributors with few answers and it is more like the number of low rep contributors that needs to be restricted instead of number of answers per low rep contributor. 2) high rep contributors (with a small amount rep) will just as well spoil the game and answer low questions. — Sextus Empiricus 1 min ago

@SextusEmpiricus as someone already pointed out, I forget who, if a question stays on the home/front page an hour or so, it stands a chance of beeing seen, and maybe of being voted. If a question by a 1-rep user appears and is on page 2 after only 5 minutes of posting the chances of it being seen, voted and then answered decreases exponentially with every page drop. — Mari-Lou A 2 mins ago

#338725 Mari-Lou A (13942 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 2) | posted 36 minutes ago by Mari-Lou A (13942 rep) | edited 22 minutes ago by Mari-Lou A (13942 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

You sure that there are no rejected edit proposals for the tag wiki? — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 13 secs ago

#338723 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (33910 rep) | Q: Single use tags are not deleted after six months if they were recreated via a rollback (score: 5) | posted 1 hours ago by Glorfindel (100255 rep) | edited 11 minutes ago by Glorfindel (100255 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

"a bigger moderator team will get bored very easily on here." -> I'm kind of nitpicking here, but is this really an issue? Isn't it better to have more moderators "just in case", than the opposite? — BelovedFool 1 min ago

#338724 BelovedFool (7205 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 3) | posted 57 minutes ago by Tinkeringbell (11205 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Nij : In other words, bigotry - plain and simple. The rot starts with the people. The people are bigots. Bigotry, of course, then is from the larger society. — The_Sympathizer 1 min ago

@BelovedFool Personally, I do like having something to do on the sites I moderate. I don't really like to be on 'stand-by' for 'just in case'... and it's just a side-note/afterthought, the more important things are mentioned first ;-) — Tinkeringbell ♦ 1 min ago

#338724 Tinkeringbell (11215 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 4) | posted 1 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (11215 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

These look like Stackoverflow tags? Then this should probably go on meta.stackoverflow.com, not here... — Tinkeringbell ♦ 15 secs ago

#338728 Tinkeringbell (11215 rep) | Q: Re-tagging questions that have a new tag ("Microsoft-flow" is now "Power Automate") (score: -1) | posted 3 minutes ago by Our Man in Bananas (243 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Sure, I understand (I too, do like to have something to do on sites I community moderate). It's just that this sentence felt kind of weird when I read it, but it doesn't really matter anyway — BelovedFool 30 secs ago

#338724 BelovedFool (7205 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 4) | posted 1 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (11215 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Ah, you mean it could be a duplicate of Single-use tags with no tag wiki, but with rejected proposals for the tag wiki, aren't auto-burninated after six months — Glorfindel 39 secs ago

#338723 Glorfindel (100255 rep) | Q: Single use tags are not deleted after six months if they were recreated via a rollback (score: 5) | posted 1 hours ago by Glorfindel (100255 rep) | edited 29 minutes ago by Glorfindel (100255 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Hi Mohan R, welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — Glorfindel 1 min ago

#338729 Glorfindel (100265 rep) | Q: How to add array in React Native for login validation, for example email:user@gmail.com pass:1234 and one more user and check (score: -3) | posted 2 minutes ago by Mohan R (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog I'm not sure I can find those with SEDE. — Glorfindel 2 mins ago

#338723 Glorfindel (100265 rep) | Q: Single use tags are not deleted after six months if they were recreated via a rollback (score: 6) | posted 1 hours ago by Glorfindel (100265 rep) | edited 37 minutes ago by Glorfindel (100265 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Maybe the impact of gamification is overrated and there isn't much that can be done rep-wise. There may be other things though that can be done. — Trilarion 1 min ago

#338680 Trilarion (3541 rep) | Q: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 31) | posted 17 hours ago by Sextus Empiricus (2983 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by Sextus Empiricus (2983 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

You could talk outside of SE about it. — Trilarion 2 mins ago

#338708 Trilarion (3541 rep) | Q: To what extent can I responsibly advertise an open-source project related to SE? (score: 15) | posted 10 hours ago by connectyourcharger (2320 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

"it's not simply a once-off" Kind of a twice-off now. Not sure if this is statistically significant already. — Trilarion 30 secs ago

#338655 Trilarion (3541 rep) | Q: Does the Fram's ban on Wikipedia seem similar to recent events? What can Stack Exchange learn from it? (score: 87) | posted 27 hours ago by Rebecca J. Stones (3577 rep) | edited 14 hours ago by Mari-Lou A (13952 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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@UphillLuge: Well, if they are on SO, we can just downvote them into oblivion. I think that this would give me great joy. — Heinzi 1 min ago

#338553 Heinzi (1714 rep) | A: What effect does the current crisis have on the SE network? (score: 70) | posted 3 days ago by Heinzi (1714 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Sonic doesn't look like it, according to some SEDE queries which I have added to the question. — Glorfindel 50 secs ago

#338723 Glorfindel (100275 rep) | Q: Single use tags are not deleted after six months if they were recreated via a rollback (score: 6) | posted 2 hours ago by Glorfindel (100275 rep) | edited 1 minutes ago by Glorfindel (100275 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Probably (also can't see the source code) vaguely related to this: meta.stackexchange.com/q/213474/282094 SBD. — Rob 1 min ago

@Trilarion I agree but the answer is just a simple "yes". If the OP had looked at the most upvoted questions on meta SO they would have seen immediately that upvotes can run in their thousands. Well if the counter displays 1886 upvotes, why not downvotes? The OP asked Can stack exchange display over 999 downvotes on an answer Yes. What other answer can there be? P.S The reason I vtc is stated in a comment, the question is/was off-topic because it is trivia(l). — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

How do you sign up for branded tags? What is the cost? — pkamb 2 mins ago

Ah! So the badges are awarded as soon as the threshold is reached regardless of a later status? I didn't know that it was that way. Thank you for the explanation. — Miquel Coll 2 mins ago

@MiquelColl yes indeed. And once awarded it is not rolled back, even though the post in its current state no longer qualifies. — Luuklag 1 min ago

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11:19 AM

You already posted this on Stack Overflow, which is a more appropriate place then this. Here we discuss the workings of the platform. There are also sites more catered towards statistics, you could check if your question is on-topic there. But please post your question only to one site in the network, duplication across sites is frowned upon. — Luuklag 2 mins ago

#338734 Luuklag (4488 rep) | Q: Interpreting a VAR table from stats.models packages? (score: -3) | posted 13 minutes ago by Brunna (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Trilarion a custom close reason has been used, but that's never reflected in the close banner. You have to look at the comments to see why it's off-topic. — Glorfindel 2 mins ago

@MonicaCellio finally card accepted! I'm glad to contribute. You have all my moral support — fr_andres 1 min ago

#336624 fr_andres (99 rep) | A: Stack Overflow is doing me ongoing harm; it's time to fix it! (score: 146) | posted 26 days ago by Jason Bassford Supports Monica (6010 rep) | edited 5 days ago by Jason Bassford Supports Monica (6010 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

This thing here triggered me to donate to Monica's gofundme and change my username. Every single step SE is taking is driving me away more and more. So sad! — fr_andres SupportsMonicaCellio 1 min ago

@somega He/she means build a separate application, and honestly, polls would be counter-productive (read my answer for more info). — connectyourcharger 1 min ago

#338737 connectyourcharger (2330 rep) | A: Can you implement polls? (score: 0) | posted 4 minutes ago by Bathsheba (5051 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Well I'm not the owner of stackexchange. So how could I do it... — somega 2 mins ago

#338737 somega (125 rep) | A: Can you implement polls? (score: 0) | posted 4 minutes ago by Bathsheba (5051 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

6 - 8 of them. I imagine it's a little tricky to get real numbers on this, as questions aren't necessarily exact matches, and there's so many sites and time gaps to consider... — Cerbrus 7 secs ago

#338739 Cerbrus (4166 rep) | Q: How many people re-post their question in the correct place after accidentally posting it here? (score: 0) | posted 3 minutes ago by F1Krazy (583 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I agree that the question is trivial and if sufficient people vote to close for that custom close reason I would be fine (would still vote to reopen because being trivial is not really a valid close reason afaik). But as it looks, some people just used an obviously wrong close reason in order to get the question closed no matter what. This is not right. Downvoting is fully sufficient, it will get auto-deleted soon anyway. After all the question is neither well researched nor useful. Still 11 people upvoted it even. — Trilarion 8 secs ago

Is it a duplicate of meta.stackexchange.com/q/220582/282094 or meta.stackexchange.com/q/98117/282094 ? — Rob 2 mins ago

And impossible for me anyway, because I don't have 10k rep and can't see them. I'd have to catch them as and when they're posted, and then check the OP's network profile to see if they re-post it, and you're right, that would be quite tedious. Thanks for the answer, though. — F1Krazy 25 secs ago

#338740 F1Krazy (603 rep) | A: How many people re-post their question in the correct place after accidentally posting it here? (score: 2) | posted 3 minutes ago by connectyourcharger (2334 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

That doesn't really make great polls. What does favorite really mean? What do you learn about the why a language is a favorite? How to correct for biases due to non-representative composition of the poll voters? What would be the error of the poll results? Should there be reputation for posting such a question? Is this really the right place for it? How long should they run before they get outdated? — Trilarion 30 secs ago

Well you could see what the most popular programming language is. — somega 1 min ago

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Which site did you post on? — Mari-Lou A 58 secs ago

#338741 Mari-Lou A (13990 rep) | Q: Optional detail in question triggered off-topic discussion (score: -1) | posted 5 minutes ago by root (577 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@LeopoldsaysReinstateMonica That link appears to be dead, at least it doesn't work for me... — Erik Reinstate MonicA 2 mins ago

Is it this question? Lifting question ban impossible if there are no mediocre questions — Glorfindel 1 min ago

#338741 Glorfindel (100322 rep) | Q: Optional detail in question triggered off-topic discussion (score: -1) | posted 12 minutes ago by root (577 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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12:44 PM

Possible duplicate of Count city wise users from Stackoverflow Database — Luuklag 19 secs ago

#338632 Luuklag (4488 rep) | Q: Distribution of members by country, for a single site? (score: 6) | posted 43 hours ago by Volker Siegel (1029 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Glorfindel, and almost certainly as a result of this. — Rob 2 mins ago

#338741 Rob (5871 rep) | Q: Optional detail in question triggered off-topic discussion (score: -1) | posted 25 minutes ago by root (577 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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@rene There's a difference between "pushing buttons" and "pressing buttons". — Inactive - avoiding CoC 2 mins ago

Possible duplicate of Give each site a parallel site for polling, recommendations and subjective-ish stuff — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

Actually, my personal experience is that many questions here were asked on SO before the OP put them here or they were banned from asking questions on SO. I often found the askers of off-topic questions have accounts on SO well over 1 year or so. — scaaahu 20 secs ago

#338739 scaaahu (177 rep) | Q: How many people re-post their question in the correct place after accidentally posting it here? (score: 6) | posted 1 hours ago by F1Krazy (643 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Mari-LouA No, I'm not going to undelete the answer. I personally want to help the community - I have no wish to see it damaged further. Seeing what's going on here and being refused the opportunity to help rather than hinder, I'll be leaving. — Snow 36 secs ago

Not closed, deleted even. Rather quick usually. — Luuklag 36 secs ago

#338744 Luuklag (4488 rep) | A: How many people re-post their question in the correct place after accidentally posting it here? (score: 1) | posted 23 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11144 rep) | edited 13 minutes ago by Laurel (20870 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Inactive-avoidingCoC well, that is a subtle difference for non-native speakers like my self. — rene 50 secs ago

@Luuklag Yes. I actually intend to say that, but got distracted. Updated ... — GhostCat says Reinstate Monica 54 secs ago

#338744 GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11154 rep) | A: How many people re-post their question in the correct place after accidentally posting it here? (score: 2) | posted 27 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11154 rep) | edited 1 minutes ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (1

Favorite programming language for what purpose? Polls don't add much actionable value here. — SecretAgentMan 12 secs ago

@scaaahu yes. This is my experience as well. Most "lost souls" are from SO, desperate to find anyone to answer their off-topic question. — Mari-Lou A 7 secs ago

#338739 Mari-Lou A (13990 rep) | Q: How many people re-post their question in the correct place after accidentally posting it here? (score: 8) | posted 1 hours ago by F1Krazy (663 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@rene Moral of the story... don't push users as they will start pushing buttons. — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 7 secs ago

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@Mari-LouA I don't have a number in mind. I just kept seeing these little comments pop up in different places so I wondered if there's anything to it. — JJ for Transparency and Monica 20 secs ago

#338722 JJ for Transparency and Monica (2265 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 3) | posted 5 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11224 rep) | edited 5 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11224 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

The only poll we have is SO's developer survey. Beyond that, the site doesn't lend itself well to polls, and the majority of users would like to keep it that way. — fbueckert 56 secs ago

@gbjbaanb Here is a sql query that tracks the development of the different answers. In this case the increase is roughly growing as the square of time 'score ~ constant*time^2' and the score of the different answers will start to grow further apart (and new answers will have little chance). I am sure that there will be other interesting questions with strange growth in growth for the different answers. — Sextus Empiricus 1 min ago

#338709 Sextus Empiricus (3013 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 2) | posted 14 hours ago by gbjbaanb (907 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

If closers are supposed to state the case for closure, perhaps askers should state the case for their question, too? Meeting the quality standards isn't an unreasonable expectation for posters to meet, is it? — fbueckert 32 secs ago

#338747 fbueckert (10709 rep) | Q: New procedures for mitigating closer hostilities (score: -5) | posted 6 minutes ago by Ben Madison (161 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

This would make an already exhausted system simply unbearable. You're essentially adding another queue which would require more man power than is currently available. Also, what if the random users selected are not active, does the question remain in a state of limbo? Lastly, closing is NOT hostile. — Script47 2 mins ago

#338747 Script47 (7388 rep) | Q: New procedures for mitigating closer hostilities (score: -5) | posted 6 minutes ago by Ben Madison (161 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

You're confusing the network with a peer-reviewed scientific journal. You'd end up with far less closures because barely anyone would be interested in completing part of such a complex procedure. — Bart 1 min ago

#338747 Bart (58860 rep) | Q: New procedures for mitigating closer hostilities (score: -11) | posted 12 minutes ago by Ben Madison (149 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Possible duplicate of Possibility to object to closing? — Luuklag 48 secs ago

#338747 Luuklag (4488 rep) | Q: New procedures for mitigating closer hostilities (score: -11) | posted 14 minutes ago by Ben Madison (149 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

By the tagging and the fact that I can see the -, a/b testing is probably taking place (to see how the - makes people feel more welcomed?). — Script47 21 secs ago

@fbueckert it doesn't give the users full faith and credit that the FAQs are mett and upheald on good faith. — Ben Madison 13 secs ago

#338747 Ben Madison (155 rep) | Q: New procedures for mitigating closer hostilities (score: -12) | posted 18 minutes ago by Ben Madison (155 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Thanks for the duplicate @ShadowThePrincessWizard, so now we need a FR to include the minus sign, as the other answer on the dupe clearly states there is plenty of room. Or is there already one? — Luuklag 56 secs ago

@Script47 it's always been this way, see Jeff answer on the dupe. — Shadow The Princess Wizard 1 min ago

@Script47 for the specific answer I can't see the -sign, for other answer in that Q, the Q itself, and Q's here on MSE I can see the -sign. So that would be one strange A/B test, when it only goes for certain answers. — Luuklag 2 mins ago

@Luuklag you can try, but I'm 100% sure it will be declined. (Or just ignored) — Shadow The Princess Wizard 1 min ago

Given the current unresolved situation, it's not clear to me why volunteer moderators at MSE haven't all gone on temporary strike until things clear up a bit. — Rounin says Je suis Monica 1 min ago

#338722 Rounin says Je suis Monica (972 rep) | A: Is MSE understaffed in terms of moderators? (score: 3) | posted 6 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11224 rep) | edited 5 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11224 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

FWIW, many of us like to give constructive criticism before we close or downvote, especially to new members. OTOH, many off-topic questions would not be posted if the asker actually read the help pages before posting and followed the advice given there. — PM 2Ring 9 secs ago

#338747 PM 2Ring (101 rep) | Q: New procedures for mitigating closer hostilities (score: -13) | posted 25 minutes ago by Ben Madison (153 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

It doesn't give curators full faith and credit that the FAQ is even read by posters, let alone acknowledged, @BenMadison. — fbueckert 1 min ago

#338747 fbueckert (10709 rep) | Q: New procedures for mitigating closer hostilities (score: -15) | posted 35 minutes ago by Ben Madison (149 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

There is now a MetaSE post with 2289 downvotes and a MetaSO post with 1033 downvotes, as of writing. — fedorqui says Reinstate Monica 9 secs ago

@Glorfindel I'm not sure if that edit helped, but I pivoted it to maybe make it not a duplicate. I'm curious about the SEDE part specifically now (even though the other answers gave me an alternate way). — Rubiksmoose 1 min ago

I'm sure it's not available in SEDE. I'm sure @rene would've written such a query by now. — Glorfindel 18 secs ago

@Peilonrayz Dividing by the number of views tends to push content that doesn't get voted on towards the center of the list. It has to be upvoted continually to stay on top. — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 11 secs ago

#338686 rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4260 rep) | A: Is the voting and reputation system sustainable? How can we improve it or maybe it should be replaced? (score: 33) | posted 21 hours ago by I am not the way you speak (1572 rep) | edited 12 hours ago by Laurel (20910 rep) | Toxicity 0.0

One issue with this is that not all users have high enough reputation to post on meta. — Matt Gutting 1 min ago

@Glorfindel that definitely sounds like a reasonable conclusion. Does it strike you as weird that this field in particular is omitted? I'm really new to SEDE, but it seems like most other data is captured in it. — Rubiksmoose 2 mins ago

Possible duplicate of How do you reopen a closed question? — gnat 3 mins ago

#338747 gnat (12814 rep) | Q: New procedures for mitigating closer hostilities (score: -17) | posted 48 minutes ago by Ben Madison (145 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Glorfindel Do you think that might be worthwhile enough to open the question to get an answer to? — Rubiksmoose 55 secs ago

Perhaps the field was introduced later than SEDE itself, and it has never been ported? — Glorfindel 2 mins ago

@Matt it took some digging but... since '16, people can ask about their own questions on meta regardless of their reputation: meta.stackexchange.com/a/277727/369802 — Tinkeringbell ♦ 53 secs ago

Modding isn't just about handling flags though. If you're not having enough time/energy to deal with all the other parts of modding (esp. "soft power" stuff as opposed to the more mechanical stuff), that could be a problem in itself, even if the flag loads are entirely bearable. — Rand al'Thor 1 min ago

Anticipating this kind of answer is exactly why I changed my mind and supported closing this question, despite (I think) previously voting to re-open it. You're making sweeping statements based on an incomplete, selective reading of a user's incomplete summary of a Buzzfeed journalist's incomplete summary of a situation involving a different community and different organisation where no-one outside a handful in that organisation know what really happened. That's not helpful. Maybe in future we can learn from Wikipedia's situation - if/when the actual facts are known. — user56reinstatemonica8 2 mins ago

#338694 user56reinstatemonica8 (6319 rep) | A: Does the Fram's ban on Wikipedia seem similar to recent events? What can Stack Exchange learn from it? (score: 1) | posted 19 hours ago by I am not the way you speak (1572 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Randal'Thor Definitely. I still have the energy for most of the soft stuff (chat, writing answers) ;) Just not the time to pick through everything to see if there's more stuff that should've been flagged too. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 10 secs ago

Hmmm ... the duplicates don't answer why the field was left out, but on the other hand you might never get a satisfactory answer to that question. — Glorfindel 54 secs ago

TL;DR: the app is dead. Nobody is there to fix any bug it has. Don't use it. — Shadow The Princess Wizard 24 secs ago

#338751 Shadow The Princess Wizard (136098 rep) | Q: Stack exchange app refuses to upload images (score: 0) | posted 5 minutes ago by bgoodr (1205 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

The legal issue here is LIBEL possibly libel per se — Richard says Reinstate Monica 29 secs ago

#337506 Richard says Reinstate Monica (3551 rep) | A: How can we move forward if SE will not admit to wrongdoing for legal reasons? (score: -23) | posted 16 days ago by user (1432 rep) | edited 14 days ago by Peter Mortensen (6315 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Luuklag This is another reason why the author of the question should never have been hacked in the first place—it just causes inconsistencies like this. If everything were being done fairly, somebody should go into the database and remove the badge that, based on retroactive continuity, no longer applies. (In this case, it should be rolled back.) — Jason Bassford Supports Monica 57 secs ago

Thanks for the help @fr_andresSupportsMonicaCellio! Sorry about all the hassles you ran into with the card. — Monica Cellio 38 secs ago

#336624 Monica Cellio (145429 rep) | A: Stack Overflow is doing me ongoing harm; it's time to fix it! (score: 147) | posted 26 days ago by Jason Bassford Supports Monica (6020 rep) | edited 5 days ago by Jason Bassford Supports Monica (6020 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@fbueckbert then make the faq part of the answer question process not just a sidebar. Then its a ownus on the mods and users. — Ben Madison 5 secs ago

Everywhere humans work errors are made @JasonBassfordSupportsMonica. Going into the database to remove such a badge, from an employee, serves no real purpose. They simply overlooked the fact that a self-answer doesn't stick to the top, those kind of things happen, no big deal. And who cares for those badges anyways. The only valuable badges on MSE are the tagbadges. — Luuklag 39 secs ago

@Glorfindel technically, neither of the links answer the question of availability either (I did already look at and link to the database schema). Then again, I was assuming that I was missing or misunderstanding something. Either way, it's not a huge deal. — Rubiksmoose 37 secs ago

Possible duplicate of Every "close" has its thorn: replace "close" with "on hold" for the first five days — Rob 1 min ago

@gnat so how is this a duplicate. — Ben Madison 44 secs ago

Just today, we had someone on Politics.SE vote to close a question with the custom close reason of, and I quote, "the lowest note of a piano is an A, not a C". The question itself had nothing to do with pianos. The comment was deleted, but I would expect a lot more meaningless close vote reasons if this system went ahead. It's one of the reasons downvoters aren't forced to leave comments either, despite that proposal coming up every other week or so. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it provide meaningful feedback. — F1Krazy 1 min ago

duplicate covers what you ask about, "questioner can have a chance to send it to a jury of randomly selected users or mods excluding the initial close voters and the questioner". The system works that way and reopens closed questions — gnat 1 min ago

Probably some useful information here: "Should the number of helpful flags be public to anyone?". — Rob 1 min ago

The onus is on posters to read the things put in front of them. There's several documents that are, on first post, and at least one requires the poster to acknowledge they've read it. Granted, we can make it easier for more information to find, but at no point are new users absolved of responsibility for this actions. They want to post, they have to live with how it's received. Don't like the reception? Well, reading the stuff put in front of you is a good start. — fbueckert 2 mins ago

This answer caused my iPad to get nailed to my desk — bobobobo 2 mins ago

Thanks! Hadn't realized that. — Matt Gutting 9 secs ago

A lot of stuff that surrounds moderating actions from users is either not in the public SEDE instance and if it is, it is anonymised / lacking a userid field. Helpful flags sits probably in the same bag as the people reached statistic: not in the user table, so not available in the Public schema. — rene 13 secs ago

Your proposal sounds,interesting, but I'm not sure if there would be sufficient demand because, obviously, it would be very expensive for the user asking for the review/appeal. Mileage may vary, but I would want at least $50, up front, to review a closure upon request by another user. Some users might be expecting to appeal to such a,panel of skilled and experienced developers at no cost. Yes, that sounds ludicrous, but that is what some users will understand from your request:( — Martin James 1 min ago

it will likely get declined, but it'l most certainly result in some rep gain — Kevin B 3 mins ago

Hi Chandhu Vutukuru, welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — Glorfindel just now

#338752 Glorfindel (100322 rep) | Q: avoid all image libraries from search results in sharepoint 2013 (score: -3) | posted 3 minutes ago by Chandhu Vutukuru (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

'Mitigate closer hostilities' is code for 'waste yet more curator volunteer time on nuisance appeals and pointless explanations'. No. — Martin James 1 min ago

You should ask your question on Sharepoint.SE. — Laf 2 mins ago

#338752 Laf (869 rep) | Q: avoid all image libraries from search results in sharepoint 2013 (score: -3) | posted 3 minutes ago by Chandhu Vutukuru (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@F1Krazy then thats on them if the vote is meaningless it is meaningless. — Ben Madison 28 secs ago

@Glorfindel he very well knows, has almost a dozen questions on Sharepoint.SE, but probably Question banned over there, which made him turn here. — Luuklag 1 min ago

#338752 Luuklag (4487 rep) | Q: avoid all image libraries from search results in sharepoint 2013 (score: -7) | posted 8 minutes ago by Chandhu Vutukuru (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@fbueckert so then so if someone reads the FAQ and tries their best to follow the guidlines then they are still screwed. which then means that sites should look at their FAQs not just once a year and make sure it is clear concise. — Ben Madison 35 secs ago

They do if you switch to "Full site" with "Responsiveness" enabled. I don't know why this isn't the default though? — user56reinstatemonica8 2 mins ago

#338753 user56reinstatemonica8 (6319 rep) | Q: Should stackexchange sites be differentiated on mobile? (score: 1) | posted 6 minutes ago by bobobobo (12633 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

The users reading the FAQ and trying to follow the guidelines are also going to be the ones responding to feedback and updating their question based on that. They aren't going to be the ones that have much issue with quality standards. I agree we can make it easier to find the guidelines, but I strongly disagree that the onus is on anyone but the new user to attempt to follow them. — fbueckert 1 min ago

This will likely come down to site culture. For Arqade, we explicitly do not want flags about duplicate answers; use your downvotes, and let the low quality review queue take care of it. SO may be different, though, so this might be better asked there. — fbueckert 2 mins ago

#338754 fbueckert (10709 rep) | Q: Explain reason for "not an answer" flag (score: 0) | posted 15 minutes ago by sazzad (151 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I hadn't realised how frequent those occurrences were, but I think you may be right. — F1Krazy 1 min ago

#338739 F1Krazy (703 rep) | Q: How many people re-post their question in the correct place after accidentally posting it here? (score: 11) | posted 4 hours ago by F1Krazy (703 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

"Fortunately here, there are no beloved moderators that one can fire that would cause such outrage " Wow, this answer did not age well! :P — Mason Wheeler 2 mins ago

Hi Don, welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — Rubiksmoose 33 secs ago

#338757 Rubiksmoose (3160 rep) | Q: How to disable the auto-reconnect feature with sshfs? (score: -2) | posted 1 minutes ago by Don (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Prepared options are worst, it was asking to attach your close vote with your own stated reason. You are making the call to close a question be specific. That way a questioner can directly address the person who voted to close. Having long comment sections trying to hash out what wrong with the question is highly unproductive. It is simply a slip, you voted to close down, so me the questioner is going to write back on the vote, ok here is why you might be wrong or hey i fixed it take a look. — Ben Madison 49 secs ago

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