SE Diplomacy

Anonymous

02:31

Openings: DP Online: The Diplomacy Openings Library

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Anonymous

in Teachers' Lounge, 6 hours ago, by Air

DP Online: The Diplomacy Openings Library

Anonymous

Game links: TL Diplomacy I (Game #106003) ; TL Diplomacy II (Game #106851)

Doorknob

> ASTONISHINGLY ARROGANT ANKARAN ASSAULT

That's an interesting opening name...

Anonymous

02:56

             - TL Diplomacy I -
         Air - France  (Blue)
CanadianLuke - England (Orange)
    Doorknob - Turkey  (Teal)
     Emrakul - Germany (Yellow)
Jeremy Banks - Russia  (Purple)
  michaelpri - Austria (Pink)
        Undo - Italy   (Green)

Anonymous

Thank you. @Doorknob

Doorknob

@JeremyBanks Thanks for the handy informational messages ;)

Anonymous

I need all of this information in one easy-to-read place. :P

Anonymous

Does the turn end before the deadline if everybody has committed moves?

Anonymous

03:18

@Emrakul If you post a screenshot of the next game day (whenever that is), could you make it a reply to the previous day, so we can easily jump backwards between them?

user61230

04:21

@JeremyBanks Yeah, if everyone finalizes orders are processed.

user61230

And I can do that. I'll also sequence the images with Drive so they can be flipped through chronologically.

Air

Honest advice from having played before? Don't put too much energy into the list of openings to start with. It's worth looking at the summary for your nation to see what's typical. But you want to be flexible.

Air

04:37

And with that, I go to bed.

user61230

G'night, @Air!

Doorknob

11:14

Hey, that worked!

The URL is http://www.playdiplomacy.com/view_image.php?game_id=106003&gdate=0&currentphase‌=O and it's visible to even people who aren't in the game. /cc @Seth

/me writes a bot to automatically post these images and then poke Emrakul to add them to Drive

Actually, it would be hard to automate it without logging in from the bot first, and I don't want to bother with that. It'll be easier to just do it manually.

Oooh, or I could use Diplomacy's automated emails to trigger the bot...

I think the easiest way to go about this would be to create an interactive game explorer on JSFiddle. I would do that right now, but I have to go to school :P

jmac

14:37

This is a very awesome idea, and I hope you will keep us all up to date on who is winning.

Seth

16:14

@Doorknob that doesn't have any colours or identifying marks though :/

Air

@Seth It looks identical to the above image, to me?

Seth

Air

Ew.

I opened it in incognito mode on my cell phone, and saw the nice colorful, detailed map

Seth

huh

very strange.

Air

Despite incognito mode, I kind of suspect caching

okay... wat

Clicking the oneboxed image (left monitor) vs copy/pasting the URL (right monitor)

Now I'm suspecting Unicode fuckery

>>> for i, (c1, c2) in enumerate(zip(str1, str2)):
...     if c1 != c2:
...         print "The characters at position {} do not match (c1: {}, c2: {})".format(i, ord(c1), ord(c2))
...
The characters at position 79 do not match (c1: 226, c2: 101)
The characters at position 80 do not match (c1: 128, c2: 61)
The characters at position 81 do not match (c1: 140, c2: 79)

>>> str1
'http://www.playdiplomacy.com/view_image.php?game_id=106003&gdate=0&current_phas\xe2\x80\x8c\xe2\x80\x8be=O'

Seth

16:47

aha! Now it works.

I blame @Doorknob.

looks like it has something to do with SE's code formatting.

@jmac I think @ArtOfCode is organizing another game if you want to play.

I might be in that one, isn't that a good enough reason? :P

Air

17:23

It would be interesting to have two games going at once in the room, in parallel, so we can spectate each other as we play.

Unless the side conversations interfered with the flow of the game.

user61230

I'd be up for a second game.

Air

18:05

Oh, not me - I was just thinking, playing one, spectating the other.

user61230

19:19

That actually seems like a really good idea, now that I think about it, @Air. I wonder if there'd be seven interested people...

Seth

@Emrakul I believe ArtOfCode had 4 people, not including me (I'll probably play :P)

user61230

Alright, I'll make a new one! I might not join it, though.

user61230

game 106848... genning a link...

Air

@Emrakul I know @Zizouz212 expressed interest.

user61230

19:38

I'm really liking this game already. People are so active!

Canadian Luke

I'm still wondering who's gonna back stab me or not

user61230

@ArtOfCode Check this message; do you know who else might be interested?

Canadian Luke

I wanna only keep one going until I understand everything about it

user61230

The other one's mostly for another group of people if they want to play as well. It looks like it might be possible to get another seven people together.

Air

19:57

@CanadianLuke Definitely not a game for those who dislike paranoia :)

Canadian Luke

20:15

Oh well

user61230

20:34

> Now here he was, midway through a game he had played well for months. He and two other players stood to share a three-way draw. He read the sentence in the letter again. _I am not against a three-way draw and I will not take any more supply centers…_

> Edi took out scissors and a pen from a drawer and set to work on the letter, painstakingly doctoring it. When he was finished he held up the letter proudly and read it to himself. _I am against a three-way draw and I will take three more supply centers…_ He put the forgery in the mail to the third player. Then he waited.

ArtOfCode

Afternoon all

user61230

Hello!

Seth

heh, it is afternoon. You in PST by any chance @ArtOfCode?

ArtOfCode

@Seth Nope, I just say random times of the day and hope nobody'll pick me up on it :) It's 21:39 here

Seth

oh lol

that's funny xD

ArtOfCode

20:39

OK, so I'm currently the only user in the game.

Seth

if I joined, how many days would I have per "move"?

ArtOfCode

shrug

@Emrakul ?

user61230

Three days for orders, two days for retreats and builds.

user61230

On the first turn, the time for orders is doubled to six days.

Seth

I think I should watch a few more videos on how this works before committing then.

ArtOfCode

20:42

I'm going into it with nothing :)

(in other words, I'm fully expecting to fail)

user61230

Oh, shoot, the settings are wrong on that game.

ArtOfCode

Whoops :)

user61230

New second game link; password "thershalc"

Zizouz212

Hi peeps!

user61230

Hello!

ArtOfCode

20:46

Afternoon

user61230

@michaelpri Playing both games? ;)

michaelpri

Yeah, probably. Unless someone's missing out because I'm in it :)

Zizouz212

Sorry peeps, I might not be around, my cousin's father just passed away :(

Air

@Zizouz212 I'm sorry to hear that. Don't worry about the game, of course.

Zizouz212

I'll still play, just not for a while :)

user61230

21:00

My condolences as well.

ArtOfCode

@Zizouz212 You can add mine to that.

Seth

As mine :(

Zizouz212

Thanks :)

Doorknob

@Zizouz212 Very sorry about your loss. :(

Air

I nominate Jeremy Soule for official dramatic music of SE Diplomacy

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Soundtrack (Full)

►

Zizouz212

21:15

@Doorknob Thanks :)

Air

> It was at the 1972 DipCon that avid Diplomacy player Gary Gygax first unveiled Dungeons & Dragons. Because of the obvious influence Diplomacy had on the D&D game system, it was a huge hit.

Wait... what? Where's the Dip influence in D&D?

user61230

OD&D was very different

Air

I've only ever played 3rd (or maybe 3.5) and I think I listened to a 4th edition podcast

I could never find enough people my age who wanted to play, back in the day.

user61230

That's still a problem for me :/

Air

M:tG was more in vogue with the middle school crowd at the time.

And for good reason, since you can play it at lunch.

user61230

21:31

Yeah, that makes sense.

michaelpri

22:00

Are you out if you control no supply centers?

user61230

You can still order your existing units around with no supply centers.

michaelpri

Oh, ok

Seth

23:21

I am now thoroughly dizzy after trying to watch several people explain diplomacy and hold the camera in their other hand >.<

Found a less detailed, but sane video though. I think I get how this works?

Air

@Emrakul With no home centers, you mean

> For every supply center you control, you may have one unit on the board. During the Fall builds phase, if you are short units, you may build new ones in unoccupied home centers, while if you have too many units, you must disband the excess.

Seth

> I promise I will not communicate in games outside of the game mechanisms

I guess that doesn't apply to us, since we're all from this room? xD

Air

@Seth Might be a bit of a grey area, but I'd still recommend keeping anything related to a specific game in that game's messages and public press.

Seth

yeah

Seth

23:40

What are NMRs?

I assume that is when you fail to move on time?

there, I joined.

user61230

23:56

@Seth Yeah, an NMR = No Moves Received

user61230

@Air Oh, yeah, forgot SCs don't change ownership until Build.

user61230

And yeah, that rule only replies if we report each other. >_>

michaelpri

@Emrakul What are SCs?

user61230

Supply Centers

michaelpri

facepalm Oh, wow can't believe I couldn't figure that out for myself

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