Why do you use ancient filesystems? If you like more information, you should give more informaion on the used filesystems and operating systems, since the ability to make accurate backups depends on the filesystem and the OS. — schily3 mins ago
Compared to typical comments such as
Well, I thought that this feature only works withstar (since 1997) and probably gtar. It definitepy is unsupported with the classicalm UNIX tar. — schily16 hours ago
They're saying they're using "ext3/4, HFS+, APFS, FAT32", and our... German contributor is calling those ancient. Uncharacteristically, since usually he seems to denounce everything that isn't either POSIX, or from the 1970's.
@ilkkachu Oh yes, sorry, I see the second comment now. As usual, I suck at reading.
Though that should really have been mentioned in the question itself. People have the irritating habit of writing information in comments, and not updating the question.
yes, it's irritating, though they probably just don't know better. But ZFS is rare enough, and the people who have it usually know what they're doing (or at least that they have it), so assuming they're using it is kinda silly.
I was a bit surprised to not run into more trouble on the upgrade. My system came back more or less immediately. The only thing is that the Konsole font size got enlarged for some reason.
And a few things got removed. And something may be going on with rsync (which I use for backups).
Anyway, nice to be more or less current again.
Relatively speaking. Because current by Debian standards means at least a year old.
Hmm. This is interesting if true.
Not everyone uses ZFS, Stephen :-) I for one have settled on ext4 because it's the most reliable and has a tons of tools to restore/fix it. ZFS on the other hand is near impossible to get data from in case it crashes. Lastly I prefer to use FS's which are in the kernel - gives me the satisfaction of knowing people actually test and use them. — Artem S. Tashkinov14 mins ago
@JeffSchaller it seems to me that tags attempt to serve different purposes, some contradictory, and most not aligned with how the site says they should be used
@StephenKitt I think you're probably right; I keep scooping my spoon in the ocean to keep some of them useful, but I think the UI doesn't give good (enough) guidance
I got one wrong idea in my head 6 years ago, and I've been getting punched in the face by terdon every year since then
The whole tag wiki setup suggests that one usage is to provide information to people writing questions, but the horse has bolted, the barn has burned down, and the continents have shifted.
The other big site feature around tags is being able to follow them, with a focus on potential answer writers; so tags on answers wouldn’t be useful here, but tags potentially end up driving answers (since people who follow specific tags are liable to use the corresponding tools, when the tags are tool-oriented).
@JeffSchaller yes, exactly!
Perhaps the most consistent tag feature is awarding badges...
@StephenKitt the whole site attempts to serve different purposes, some contradictory ;)
@StephenKitt because the system doesn't actually show the tag wiki to the asker, unless they know enough to go looking for it, which they probably don't if they need it in the first place.
@ilkkachu yup, they’d have to hover over the tags after adding them, which is unlikely for those users who would benefit most from the information in the wikis.
(in the same way it doesn't show, let's say instructions on how to ask a question prominently enough, i.e. which specific details are absolutely required; or instructions on how to use code block formatting etc. etc.)
awarding badges is a nice feature though. With half the questions tagged bash, it's relatively easy to get a number of users with hammer-rights to half the questions ;)
Since the upgrade, as of this morning, I'm now seeing:
deflate on token returned 0 (8720 bytes left)
rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at token.c(476) [sender=3.2.3]
I guess I'll have to investigate this, but just wondering if this means anything to anyone. It doesn't to me.
@StephenKitt Some tag wikis are useful. Though I don't know who wrote them.
@StephenKitt Well, the people who select them mostly don't know how they are supposed to be used. I suspect few people do. Presumably the mods do. And maybe some high rep users.
@FaheemMitha I would suggest even showing the tag wiki excerpt beneath the in-progress question as tags are selected, in the same way as the “similar to these questions” list
You are a user asking a question, and the system is helpful, so it shows you this:
(the 5 of them were suggested when I finished writing this post, I used only one, tag-wiki-excerpt)
Seeing the problem yet? No? Well, lets explain: there's a common hearsay in meta about tagging and the mis...
I think some sort of fine-tuning could be used, maybe on a rep basis, or new user basis, that would actually interfere with the question-asking process to give good guidance (on their first question, or answer, etc)
getting in the way of asking questions might be a sacred cow, though
@JeffSchaller yeah, but the current situation for new users is pretty bad — ask a poor question, get comments about it, downvotes, perhaps a closure, and the system will then tell you that you can’t ask a new question, you need to fix the previous one. And instead of realising that this is how SE works, many new users think that it’s the commenters and closure voters’ cabal at work...
If the onus was on getting the first question right, instead of the second one, perhaps the overall situation would be better.
But no one has ever managed to convince random users to file bugs correctly, so I have little hope for questions here.
I don't know, but it looks like the struggle continues:
Just disengage as soon as possible - we used to call those "help [blood-sucking creates of the night]" but, apparently, this is now considered "unkind" regardless of how true this assertion is. You aren't getting paid by the OP, so feel free to not follow up on any of their requests, especially if they move goal posts — Oleg Valteryesterday
I've noticed that a simple way to earn reputation is by answering easy questions. Even if I don't know the answer to a question it will often be very similar to another question or only take a few minutes of research. For duplicate questions I have the option of flagging the post, but with the cu...
well that's the thing, isn't it. Is the site about helping people get answers to their (possibly very badly presented and underspecified problems), or about collecting information useful for future readers (which badly specified problems probably aren't)
After upgrading, some of my backups started crashing. It turns out udisk2 had changed my mount point from /media/faheem/My Passport to /media/faheem/My Passport1. I could not find a mention of this anywhere. And I wonder why such a change was necessary. In case there are multiple Passports?
The odd thing is there is a pre-existing /media/faheem/My Passport1 mount point, which appears to be from 2016.
It would be nice if the Debian maintainer would offer a heads-up about stuff like this, at any rate.