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02:07
I have a file with numbers like this: 0x1, 0x2, 0x3 all separated by comma. I want to change the comma by a "\" by for some reason sed won't do it. What's wrong with "sed s/,/\\/g" ? shouldn't this be changing all commas to / ?
02:20
@Trey You may want to post a question on the site, to make completely clear what command you are running, and giving full details, including the complete and exact output you do get and any other information about why the result you get is wrong . With that said, though, it sounds like you're running the command sed s/,/\\/g in a shell, with no quote marks present in the command you are running. When I run that, I get the error: sed: -e expression #1, char 7: unterminated `s' command
What's going on is that the shell treats backslashes specially and sends a single backslash instead of two consecutive backslashes to sed, then sed treats the backslash it sees specially, taking it to mean that / is literally present in the replacement string rather than ending it. The solution is to properly quote the argument to sed. I recommend enclosing it in single quotes.
thanks @EliahKagan that worked
 
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08:35
Watching Firefly now. I never got into it at its original broadcast, so I'm watching it now, 18 years later. But who's counting?
09:31
@FaheemMitha "Cannot join the channel #debian. (you are banned)"
@AdamL Are you registered with OFTC? Some channels require registration.
I can't remember if #debian does, but they may have changed the rules, regardless.
ok how do i register
09:45
the channel Debian isn't even listed tho
@AdamL You can register on oftc.net.
@AdamL Not listed where?
The Debian Wiki has a list of IRC channels.
But one more time, if you are having difficulty accessing a Debian web forum, it makes more sense in the first instance to try to contact someone actually on that forum.
Going to IRC would be Plan B.
Though IRC can be a good way to get in touch with Debian developers. A lot of them lang out there.
@FaheemMitha yeah i did email the forum support the first time i had trouble registering
@AdamL Did anything happen?
lang -> hang, sorry.
10:27
@FaheemMitha <3
Wonder what it could've become if it hadn't been axed
@FaheemMitha it's ok I think I will be able to solve the problem on my own I found a mirror on the Debian wiki page that i put in my sources.list and when i updated it listed the Linux amd64 image as an upgradable package, and when i upgraded it, the output had a full list of potentially missing firmware files needed, so im thinking if i just put then in manually from the list on the wiki it will solve the problem
the system works perfectly fine except for the graphics when then laptop sleeps, when i wake it up its all multi colored and fuzzy. but its pretty annoying to have to constantly reboot so it will be good to fix that
well ok not solve the problem on my own, but i found the content made by people that have solved the problem
You're almost never on your own
@AdamL "On my own" is poorly defined. Everything one deals with is a work of many hands. So how often is one truly alone?
@AndrasDeak So you're a fan? Or should I say, a Browncoat?
The latter might be a stretch :P But I do like it.
It's pretty shiny
10:44
@AndrasDeak LOL
11:32
Come on. Cowboys in space with Chinese swearing? What's not to like?
@terdon Are you a fan too?
And I don't really get the Chinese swearing.
@FaheemMitha Yeah. I love that series, great fun.
@FaheemMitha Just an easy way to get something that can work as swearing and not be censored by US television. Also adds a nice touch of depth to the world.
I just watched the episode with Mal's accidental wife. Very entertaining.
@terdon Apparently it's real Chinese too.
Not sure why such American characters would be speaking Chinese, though. No real Americans I've ever met do.
11:48
@FaheemMitha They're not American, that's the point: this is the far future and the solar system's culture has been significantly affected by Chinese culture. Which is a reasonable prediction to make. So, many people speak Chinese and our characters slip into it when swearing.
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A: Why does everyone in Firefly speak Chinese?

AshterothiFrom Firefly Timeline: The United States and China, the two great superpowers of the Earth, gradually grow together and form the Anglo-Sino Alliance (though their empires remain separate), rather than killing each other as originally predicted. In a somewhat ironic reversal, the America...

@terdon They seem very American to me.
@FaheemMitha Well of course they do, the actors and production are American. But the world they are describing in universe is not.
@terdon Just saying it feels odd to me. That's all.
It really works to bring home the fact that this isn't Kansas, despite the american accents to me.
Kansas is notably lacking in spaceships, so I certainly accept that.
I watched "Out of Gas" today. It's also pretty good.
Whatever else may be true of Whedon, he has style. Which is more than you can say for most of the stuff that passes for American TV.
11:55
"Jaynestown" is probably my all time favorite.
@terdon same here
@StephenKitt Another fan?
@FaheemMitha there are also mixed English/Chinese signs everywhere if memory serves
@FaheemMitha yes!
Chinese probably caught up with English as a world language
11:58
I always thought native language will become irrelevant as translation tech improves
@AdamL We are nowhere near that though.
And languages are constantly changing.
and even with perfect translation tech, there’s still a difference
compare the quality of interaction between two native speakers v. when using simultaneous interpreters
Not to mention dialects and regional accents and the like.
And generational slang. I already have loads of slang terms in both Greek and English that I don't know, despite being a native speaker of both languages, because they're used by the "kids" today.
I only recently discovered the slang meaning of tea for example:
hah I didn’t know that one
exactly :)
I learned about it this week.
12:07
so Brits definitely still drink lots of tea
Yes, tea is still a British thing.
Tim
Tim
I am interested in machine translation
Are you discussing linguistics now?
@StephenKitt Tea and queues. Yes.
/me is relieved that's a 404!
12:23
@terdon with dinner, they could be minding their P's and Q's
As imaginary slang goes, I found gorram quite convincing.
But it seems it's an actual word. Just not much used.
I see there are now protests about statues of Robert Clive.
I didn't even know there were any.
But he's probably no worse than some of the other people the British have put up statues to.
They've actually started spray painting "racist" on some of Churchill's statues. if the brits manage to actually have an honest reassessment of their "heroic" past, that would be a very good thing. But it's very hard here to convince people that Churchill wasn't a saint for some reason.
@terdon Yes, they love Churchill for some reason.
And I of course agree strongly with:
> if the brits manage to actually have an honest reassessment of their "heroic" past, that would be a very good thing.
Tim
Tim
what happened?
It would be a good thing for everyone. The British and their victims.
And it would make similar episodes less likely in the future.
And calling Churchill a racist is quite mild, anyway.
12:34
Was Churchill much more of a racist than everyone else in those times? (and this is an honest question, I haven't followed that subject)
Tim
Tim
Was racism a political correct thing?
@ilkkachu That's a very hard question to answer. I don't know, but I don't think he was particularly out of the mainstream.
The book "Churchill's Secret War" is somewhat relevant.
In that book, some (at least one) Churchill's associates expressed dismay with his attitude towards India and Indians, so his attitudes were by no means universal.
@FaheemMitha Well, if you just focus on his work as prime minister during WWII that is understandable.
@terdon He made some speeches.
@FaheemMitha Well no. He led the country to victory. That took a bit more than speeches.
12:36
I think Amery, perhaps. I actually have the book on my bookshelf here, so I could check.
@terdon I'm unclear what else he did.
And he was the architect of the post-war treaties that were instrumental in shaping the geopolitical landscape of Europe and beyond to this day.
Disclaimer: I'm very very much not a Churchill fan.
@terdon He was certainly involved.
The problem is that the Brits, like most nations, only focus on the good sides of their heroes and ignore the bad. And Churchill had some pretty damn bad bad sides...
Leopold Charles Maurice Stennett Amery, (22 November 1873 – 16 September 1955), usually known as Leo Amery or L. S. Amery, was a British Conservative politician and journalist, noted for his interest in military preparedness, British India and the British Empire and for his opposition to appeasement. == Early life and education == Leopold Amery was born in Gorakhpur, India, to an English father and a mother of Hungarian Jewish descent. His father was Charles Frederick Amery (1833–1901), of Lustleigh, Devon, an officer in the Indian Forestry Commission. His mother Elisabeth Johanna Saphir (c. 1841...
@FaheemMitha ahh, ok I read the synopsis of that book, I think I get the point.
12:38
@FaheemMitha A good deal more than "involved". He was instrumental in keeping Greece out of the Eastern block, for instance
@ilkkachu It's difficult to understand someone like Churchill without knowing his cultural background. Among, other things, he was a British aristocrat.
exactly
@ilkkachu this is a very informative and short article that gives some insight on one of the reasons he's not very popular in India:
@ilkkachu It's readable. I don't know if I would recommend it, unless you're particularly interested in the 1942 Bengal Famine. But it's interesting reading, and the author clearly had a very clear and independent point of view.
I found her comments on Hitler particularly interesting. One can't imagine a British writer writing those things.
@terdon oh, the Guardian's brought up a register-wall. I think that book synopsis from Wikipedia explained the main point well enough, though.
12:41
@ilkkachu I actually know a little about the Britiish and how think. Probably more than most.
@ilkkachu Not a wall. they never do walls. Just click on continue reading and you'll get through
It's worth noting that their attitudes were functional. Obvious though it is to say.
@ilkkachu The Guardian doesn't do walls. At least for now.
oh, it was just a nagging. Not that the Guardian wouldn't deserve my money too, but I was thinking of doing something else next.
I see that article manages to mention Mukerjee without mentioning her book by name.
I don't mean to downplay that subject, though. As for the book, let's say I'm forbidden from buying books. :D Which didn't stop my bookpile from growing last weekend...
12:44
@terdon The Eastern block?
@ilkkachu I wasn't suggest you buy it. You might be able to get it from a library if you are interested.
But British imperial history isn't particularly well documented. The British themselves have no interest in documenting it.
@FaheemMitha east of the Iron Curtain
So what writing has been done on the subject is mostly by independent third parties.
@AndrasDeak Meaning the Soviet Union?
(Language joke: the Finnish translation for 'unread' and 'uncountable' is exactly the same word. And I have an unread number of unread books, so to say.)
@ilkkachu What is that word?
"lukematon", literally 'unread', but reading here is somehow related to counting
12:47
Huh.
The Eastern Bloc, also known as the Communist Bloc, the Socialist Bloc and the Soviet Bloc, was the group of communist states of Central and Eastern Europe, East Asia, and Southeast Asia under the hegemony of the Soviet Union (USSR) that existed during the Cold War (1947–1991) in opposition to the capitalist Western Bloc. In Western Europe, the term Eastern Bloc generally referred to the USSR and its satellite states in the Comecon (East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and Albania); in Asia, the Soviet Bloc comprised the Mongolian People's Republic, the Socialist Republic...
Which isn't to say there aren't people writing about this.
Actually, Dalrymple is probably an aristocrat too. Just look at his CV.
@terdon Ok.
I don't know what the British establishment think of Dalrymple's work, but he certainly wins a lot of prizes.
> Dalrymple is the son of Sir Hew Hamilton-Dalrymple, 10th Baronet, and Lady Anne-Louise Keppel, a daughter of the 9th Earl of Albemarle.
@FaheemMitha and more. Hungary is Eastern Bloc but not Soviet Union
13:09
Very roughly speaking, @FaheemMitha, Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt divided up Europe between them and separated it into spheres of influence. The Soviet sphere of influence is often referred to as the "Eastern block".
@terdon and that explains the Berlin situation after the war
yep
Tim
Tim
I was reading the economic growth of the past Eastern block countries
They were at the same level as their opponent countries in 70's
@terdon Yes, I'm familiar with the history. Though not any Greece-specific stuff.
@terdon Yes, that was my point. And the rest of his biography.
Tim
Tim
Is Greece a social democratic country?
13:14
Definitely one of the privileged.
Tim
Tim
I am trying to figure out which measures more accurately rank countries by the wealth of individuals?
This page lists the countries of the world sorted by their gross domestic product per capita at nominal values. This is the value of all final goods and services produced within a nation in a given year, converted at market exchange rates to current U.S. dollars, divided by the average population for the same year. The figures presented here do not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the country's currency. Such fluctuations change a country's ranking from...
This page is a list of the countries of the world by gross domestic product (at purchasing power parity) per capita, i.e., the purchasing power parity (PPP) value of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given year, divided by the average (or mid-year) population for the same year. As of 2019, the estimated average GDP per capita (PPP) of all of the countries of the world is Int$18,381. For rankings regarding wealth, see list of countries by wealth per adult. == Method == The gross domestic product (GDP) per capita figures on this page are derived from PPP calculations. Such...
This is a list of countries of the world by wealth per adult, published annually in Credit Suisse's Global Wealth Databook a company based in Zürich, Switzerland. It includes both financial and non-financial assets. In the tables below mean and median wealth per adult are reported. == Credit Suisse Global Wealth Databook's list of countries by median and mean wealth per adult (USD) == Every autumn, Credit Suisse S.A. publishes its Global Wealth Report Databook. It reports various statistics relevant for calculating net wealth. These figures are influenced by real estate prices, equity market prices...
@Tim A difficult exercise.
Averages don't tell you much.
Income distributions would be more informative.
@FaheemMitha Greece was the only country in the balkans that was 90% under UK influence and only 10% under Soviet.
@Tim Probably not, but that will depend on your definition. It is currently being governed by a center-right party (with some hardcore right wing tendencies among some party members)
Tim
Tim
This is a list of countries or dependencies by income inequality metrics, including Gini coefficients. The Gini coefficient is a number between 0 and 1, where 0 corresponds with perfect equality (where everyone has the same income) and 1 corresponds with perfect inequality (where one person has all the income—and everyone else has no income). Income distribution can vary greatly from wealth distribution in a country (see List of countries by distribution of wealth). Income from black market economic activity is not included and is the subject of current economic research. == UN, World Bank and... ==
US has unusually high Gini index
The rich are very rich, and the poor are very poor
13:31
Hi! can I share a directory between to GNU/Linux machine connected to a common network, using samba?
yes
NFS would be easier of course, but you can do smb, absolutely.
Yes, I just came to know that NFS is a standard unix way to share files on local network but it requires much configuration. That's why I am preferring samba and I think I will be able to share between GNU/Linux and Windows also in future with samba
First of all let me clear that how two computers are connected: I have turned on mobile-hotspot on my Android phone and my laptop is connected with wifi. I have also connected my that andoid phone to Desktop pc using USB Tethering. So, both machine (Desktop computer connected with USB tethering and Laptop connected with wifi) can share files Am I right?
13:55
@Pandya My bet would be that laptop-phone and desktop-phone were two distinct networks (subnets), so that laptop and desktop couldn't connect to each other. (See, for instance, this question on SU, which unfortunately has no answers).
But I'm just guessing.
@fra-san they could, if the phone were set up to route between the subnets ;-)
NFS is a bit painful, but it's not like it's that hard to configure, IMO
@fra-san oh! I see, thanks for pointing out. So, I think something needs to be configured from android phone also.
@Pandya presumably a simple ping test would answer the question, before you got too far?
@Pandya You might be better off using version control, depending on your use case.
Network filesystems like a very reliable network. I don't know about Samba.
14:09
@Pandya juste have a look at IP (ip a s, ipconfig, ...) if leading digit are same, likely they can see each other.
@JeffSchaller yes, how do I check? Can I try ping <ip address>?
@Pandya Yes; I'm thinking: from one OS to the other, to test their connectivity to each other.
(not from phone-to-OS)
@Archemar first two x.x are same
@JeffSchaller Yes, i got it. Will try :)
@Pandya much configuration? NFS is far simpler to set up than samba! Just add one line in your /etc/fstab and you're done, really.
The great thing about distributed version control is that one can work and save locally, and then copy across the network. And operations are atomic, so errors are not so likely.
14:12
Samba, on the other hand, is an absolute pain to set up and configure in my (albeit limited) experience.
only first two (like 192.168), hum ... you must try ping.
And I think AFS is supposed to be better than NFS. Though I would not recomend AFS or network filesystems in general.
juste use amazon, an pay each time you tranfert a file from home to home (by going arround the world twice)
to share files between sporadically-connected systems, I’d say you don’t want a network file system, but rather a file synchronisation tool (Syncthing, or a VCS as Faheem says)
@terdon if there are host-based (or network!) firewalls involved, NFSv3 can be some extra steps. Don't forget exporting and security on the hosting side. Of course, Samba would/should be secured as well.
14:16
@JeffSchaller Oh, sure, but to share a dir between two machines in the same simple internal home network is trivial.
@terdon sure; it's just that Pandya may be beyond 'simple network', and maybe I'm too security-bent, but host-based firewalls aren't uncommon
@StephenKitt Sure, I forgot to add "by default" somewhere in my sentence.
> this question on SU, which unfortunately has no answers (by default)
(sorry, couldn't resist)
@JeffSchaller LOL
@fra-san yeah, I didn’t mean to imply you weren’t aware of this, I wanted to make sure people reading the conversation were aware that “not connecting” isn’t a terminal state
14:29
@terdon ok. I will check NFS way :)
@Pandya Note that everyone else involved in this conversation knows more about networking than I do. So yes, my experience has been that NFS is very easy to set up, but if these sysadmin types disagree, I am sure they know what they're talking about.
simple things are easy, complications make things harder :) Not knowing if there's routing or firewalls, I was just trying to shine some headlights forward
(also good to see if "sharing a directory" is an X-Y problem for something else)
Hello chat,
I'm asking in last resort, I offer a nice 100 point Bounty on AskUbuntu to simply remap my right super to left super so I can use both, i've tried a lot and failed a lot, if any of you have ideas... I know you're not Ubuntu expert but I know you well enought to be sure you'll have an idea
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Q: Remap a key permanently

KiwyI know this question has been ask and answer often but none of the solution found seems to work properly. I'd like to have both my super keys to work at the same time. I need to map R-Win (key code 134) to L-Win (keycode 133). On Ubuntu 20.04 I've tried the following: xmodmap -e "keycode 134 =...

14:45
@Kiwy Does this help?
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A: Shortcut keys that are independent to keyboard layout

terdonI often switch between English and Greek layouts and this has been a minor annoyance for a while. Your question pushed me to solve it, so thanks! I found a program that can do this: xbindkeys. The proceedure I followed (adapted from here) was: Install xbindkeys. On my Debian this is done with ...

@terdon evaluation is on the way
ho, it seems not to be able to remap but to create shortcut
or I don't understand the configuration
yes, it doesn't remap. You're right. I was thinking you might be able to use that to do your thing, but I'm probably wrong.
well, for reasons, GnomeShell is able to use only one super key at once
super key openning the main menu that allows to switch desktop move windows open new app by searching
and I'm very use to that right super key, but I have a laptop without a right super key, so when I have no external keyboard I need to switch the option in gnome options or I can't use super key at all on Gnome...
Well it seems that your little could still be very usefull... I'll keep an eye on it ;-)
Thank you @terdon
I could use xmodmap but for reasons undetermined it seems impossible to make the change persitent after a certain amount of time
 
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16:21
> $ ping 192.168.43.238
PING 192.168.43.238 (192.168.43.238) 56(84) bytes of data.
ping freezes at this line
pressing ctrl+c
> 154 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 832ms
@Pandya looks like "routing has not been set up to move traffic from OS1 to OS2"
(btw, it didn't freeze, but was sending ping requests and not getting anything back)
@fra-san I found another similar unanswered question
16:34
can I do something with?:
17:11
@Pandya I see android.se has a few Q/As that somehow relates to your issue, but I couldn't find a single answer with a clear solution. You may want to search there.
 
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18:15
Some folks in my site think this question might be a decent fit for your website. Shall I send it over if it's ok?
18:27
@jokerdino looks good!
@JeffSchaller Thank you, sending it immediately before any of you change their mind.
Sent it but I think it might require some comment cleanup. Thanks @Jeff~
@jokerdino can-do; thanks!
You the best Jeff I know so far.
@jokerdino aww, thanks! You're the best jokerdino I know so far.
blushes
18:43
@terdon all I know is the globalization of the English language was a mistake, for the sole reason that we now find ourselves at the drive thru of burger king requesting to eat "butty"
Tim
Tim
19:21
Dec 9 '19 at 22:18, by Michael Homer
PEGs are essentially a way of representing a whole context-free grammar (your friend Chomsky!) and then you try to apply the whole grammar against an input to get back a yes/no and a syntax tree if it worked. Internally they're very complicated but from the outside, if you're already thinking in terms of a grammar, they just work magic
Chomsky is my idol
I want to be his friend too
he didn't reply me on twitter
when I say "good morning"
I am reading a book on formal languages right now, for some common sense
What were your books on formal languages when you were studying them?
19:58
@AdamL I don't know if you're objecting to "thru" or "butty" or the fact that English has become the language of the US.

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