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2:11 AM
@derobert I wonder if the systemd devs have a sense of humor.
 
 
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4:21 AM
ok well this has been a disappointing yet expected response
 
 
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10:23 AM
Can someone suggest me some good resource to study about grep labels, address ranges.
 
10:42 AM
@Prvt_Yadv Read questions and answers on the Unix&Linux site?
 
 
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1:21 PM
Gmail and fb quite good in dark mode, SE comes off a bit strange.
 
 
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2:42 PM
@FaheemMitha hopefully, their programs run as root on all my boxes :-/
 
@derobert Are you worried they're going to insert bugs specially for you?
 
No, not really. That was intended humorously as well.
 
I learned a new word just now. Pergola.
 
3:46 PM
Guys, I swear I remember being able to do something like grep -E ^"String"
particularly, saying "here's a regular expression, match everything in the line that doesn't match this regular expression"
I'm not sure if it was in grep...has anyone ever done this? I have the distinct memory of doing this, but it isn't working in grep
I know the caret is also the anchor for the beginning of the string
So maybe I was having a very pleasant dream about this functionality....
 
4:00 PM
@JeffSchaller I’m always interested in improving my flagging behaviour; could you explain why this doesn’t qualify as link-only (or nearly so)?
 
Personally, I'd call that link-only (and probably incorrect, didn't bother to check YouTube)
 
@derobert the video is mostly a demo of running the two listed commands, along with starting Firefox to show that it’s the ESR version. So it doesn’t add much to the post... But the post doesn’t say anything really, and as you say it’s incorrect (it doesn’t address the Thunderbird problem).
 
4:34 PM
@Ungeheuer grep -v would return every line that does not match the expression. Is that what you're after?
grep '^string' would just match string at the start of the line (-E is not needed).
Maybe you're confusing it with [^something] which would match a single character that is not one of the characters in something?
 
 
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5:37 PM
@Kusalananda I wanna invert matching within the string. I found an alternative via awk's field separator. I just set the field separator to Found:? which gives me what I want.
 
6:07 PM
@Ungeheuer Well, ok. I did not see what data you were working on, so...
 
6:24 PM
@StephenKitt Hi Stephen! Sorry for the late reply; took the day off for kid stuff. I "passed" that "link-only" Answer because it did have more than a link -- it had the two commands. I keep referring back to meta.stackexchange.com/q/225370/307535 and "if the text of the post contains an honest attempt at answering the question, then it is an answer"
 
@Kusalananda Output from virus software. Along the lines of "a whole bunch of crap I don't need Found: virus names" Note the colon doesn't always show up. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not. It is well-defined when the colon is there and when it isn't, but at runtime the script doesn't know anything about that.
 
 
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7:33 PM
@JeffSchaller I guess then it'll get deleted as a low-quality answer instead of as a non-answer.
 
@JeffSchaller OK, that makes sense; in this particular case as derobert says it will probably fall under the “Does that mean these answers should forever hang around the site? No, not necessarily - if it turns out they're just not that useful, they should probably still be removed” part of that meta answer...
 
@derobert agreed:
> Does that mean these answers should forever hang around the site? No, not necessarily - if it turns out they're just not that useful, they should probably still be removed - or at very least, down-voted so that they rank below other answers.
lol
 
Wow when I copy and paste, it pastes on Jeff’s computer too!
I need to be careful with my password manager...
 
@StephenKitt Well, you probably technically have root on @JeffSchaller's machine, so... :-P
 
@derobert his daughter Ruth does ... (hat tip @terdon)
 
7:37 PM
@derobert yup, terdon and Kusalananda are safe but Jeff probably isn’t!
 
@StephenKitt just don't do any work today; I took the day off, and it would look suspicious. Knock yourself out tomorrow, though!
 
@JeffSchaller it's just somewhat surprising to see it kicked out of a review queue with an "it's OK" when it really should be deleted, just for a slightly different reason.
 
@JeffSchaller my workday’s finished ;-)
 
@derobert I'm with you! I remember terdon, actually, turning my head sideways on that one -- from "is it a good answer" to "did it attempt to answer the question" -- from the review side of things, anyway
comments and/or downvotes being appropriate for the "an attempt was made" poor answers
that's my perspective, anyway!
I need to put up a "Learning the art of the low quality review queue" ... my TODO list is never done
 
Does it really count as making an attempt when someone shows up to a question that already has a good, thorough answer, is already resolved, and posts — a year later — an answer consisting of nothing more than two commands that don't even work?
 
7:44 PM
@derobert IMHO: yes, and a comment "those commands don't work (x,yz)" and an optional downvote
gotta run, kids are getting off the bus and I need to corral them, but I'll revisit any at-pings here tonight
 
@JeffSchaller A downvote, sure. The comment would probably take more effort than the answer (especially if you try to test it!), and just would add even more noise. (And we have both "not an answer" and "very low quality", so I don't think they're supposed to mean the same thing.)
The flag box says "This answer has severe formatting or content problems. This answer is unlikely to be salvageable through editing, and might need to be removed." ... which seems to apply
(Obviously, you can salvage any answer by editing and replacing the entire thing. So that's got to mean something like copyediting, or at least editing that respect's the authors intent.)
Probably, though, if @terdon thinks unix.stackexchange.com/a/524847 shouldn't be deleted then it's really a discussion for meta
 
 
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9:02 PM
Not only don't they work, they're not even a serious attempt to work
 
cd /var
 
At best they're neutral and they might do more harm
 
shit wrong window
 
9:27 PM
Ok, new badges, "Life Jacket" and "Life Boat". Just got six of the jackets...
Ah, blog post about the above: stackoverflow.blog/2019/06/18/…
 
 
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11:54 PM
Yeah! I figured out how to have systemd move existing processes into scopes from the command line
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A: How do I create a systemd scope for an already-existing process from the command line?

derobertThere are various command-line tools to make dbus calls; systemd comes with one called busctl. So you can call StartTransientUnit from the command line. The command The syntax is positively annoying, but it looks like this (for one process id, 14460): busctl call --user org.freedesktop.systemd...

would appreciate it if anyone has a chance to review that and see if it makes sense to anyone but me
 

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