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Braiam

00:18

wow, so may tasks in the review queue

slm

@Braiam sorry I was away, back now, everything is back to 0

Braiam

nah, don't worry, they need 2 extra reviews still :P

strugee

03:51

@RifazNahiyan drive-by reply:

fixubuntu.com

@slm RATS! missed my chance to go for the badge!

@PyRulez what do you mean? you mean the X11 window?

if so, yes. but you should search on Unix & Linux.

if you don't find your question already answered (which I doubt) then ask a new one.

xiaodongjie

08:20

Hi

everybody.

what are you doing now?

terdon

10:25

Why in the world id this being migrated to SO?

4

Q: What does "fno" stand for in g++'s fno-stack-limit compile option?

In the following command: $ g++ -fno-stack-limit what does fno stand for?

slm

11:52

@terdon No idea. Someone thinks it's programming related would be my guess, I've voted to leave it open at least 2 times now. I think it got closed in there as well.

tgkprog

When I run a program with sudo - do i run it as my self with admin privildges or its run as root?

Braiam

@tgkprog try running sudo whoami and whoami ;)

tgkprog

thanks

cant start postgress sql ... first said wrong user has ownsherhip ... made it root after seeing sudo whoami

now says data has 777 permision

i did that ... not sure how to undo it :-)

tried chmod 0700 ... but now cant make the pid

terdon

12:14

@tgkprog Step back. Start from the beginning. What's 'data'? What's your OS? What did you make root? Most importantly, why aren't you posting a question on Unix & Linux?

tgkprog

Ubunto OS , thought it was a simple chat question. the data dir of postgresql. installed into non default dir /u/ I made root the owner of the postgresql dir

Ubunto OS 13.

terdon

Well, it might be a simple question but not if you don't explain what you're talking about :)

OK, what do you want to undo now?

tgkprog

Started had to sudo -u postgres ... so the data base starts with that user name

(thanks) read the log error and existing answers on sudo, chmod and chown. :-)

terdon

OK

Braiam

12:37

Only 27 questions tagged remove. delete RIP.

Dennis Nolte

greetings,
i have an SE account on other sites then unix.se, but i am unable to login with my credentials for this site.
trying to recover my password says i have no account here, but when i try to register the email address i used for the other SE pages i am unable to create an account because the email is used.
i tried the help but it seems i was unable to use the correct search term.
what would be the next step?

Braiam

@DennisNolte meta.stackoverflow.com/contact

Dennis Nolte

thought so, thank you for confirming.

terdon

13:03

@DennisNolte You should be able to do it by choosing "sign up" then giving the same credentials. You will be asked whether you want to create a new account for U&L and the two accounts will be linked.

Dennis Nolte

@terdon sadly this did not work with the same email address (this email is already used, want to recover it). I have now contacted the support and will wait and read the help while doing :)

terdon

@DennisNolte OK. I have done it many times but I'm using gmail as an openID provider. Your case might be different depending on your account type.

Dennis Nolte

i see, i am using the stackexchange login "directly" so it seems different as you already guessed.

Patrick

15:22

Sigh. why does hiring people have to be such a pita?

turned a guy down yesterday, and he will, not, stop, calling.

slm

15:54

@Patrick - is he being belligerent?

@Patrick - nothing like that to win over an employer 8-)

Patrick

not belligerent, just annoying. he's trying to convince me to change my mind

he's called me 7 times now

HelpingHand

Now I'm sure the ntfs is not corrupt. I ran Hirens boot cd and it starts windows right up. Following a bunch of links, I ran the mini xp part of hirens, and wrote a new mbr with mbrfix. After this, it changed from a blinking cursor to "operating system not found". What other than the mbr could cause this? Or what else should I do to the mbr?

@derobert

derobert

16:27

@RifazNahiyan ... and about trusting Dropbox: bbc.com/news/technology-27285786

slm

@Patrick Must be pretty desperate to do that. So calling you 7 times isn't winning you over 8-)

derobert

@Patrick wow, I've never even thought about trying to convince someone to reconsider a hiring decision... Can't imagine it'd ever work.

@HelpingHand I think the next thing you check is ntldr, but I'm not a Windows person. I suggest asking the folks on Superuser—there are Windows experts there.

Faheem Mitha

Hi guys. Kind of had a strange day.

@derobert hi

derobert

@Braiam Yep, delete not only has no questions, it has been deleted.

@FaheemMitha Hah, I thought that was going to be the start of story time. Either that, or a song cue.

Faheem Mitha

@derobert What was? The strange day thing?

Definitely not a song cue.

derobert

16:37

Yeah. Announcing you had a strange day.

Faheem Mitha

@derobert No, not really the start of story time. But it was definitely a strange day.

derobert

@FaheemMitha Remember, all you have to to sing on the Internet is put ♩ around it

Faheem Mitha

Ah, but I don't know how to do ♩ unless I copy and paste it.

derobert

Well, I copy & pasted it from the unicode program, so...

Not sure if I have a compose binding for it.

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Ah, you did? I think you can write unicode in here by typing something appropriate though.

derobert

16:40

Well, characters I actually use I know how to type... E.g., I can type various accent marks: é è, etc.

Faheem Mitha

In any case, I wasn't really planning to elaborate on my strange day - I doubt it would be of general interest. Maybe I'll keep it for my memoirs.

@derobert Yes, I can't even do those.

derobert

You just need to set up a compose key. Then its compose, ', e = é

strugee

@FaheemMitha lmgtfy.com/?q=music+note+unicode

derobert

I use caps lock for compose.

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Yes, I read a tutorial about that somewhere. It seemed complicated, I'm lazy, and fortunately I don't need to compose such characters frequently.

9728

U+2600

derobert

16:44

☀ :-P

Faheem Mitha

Never mind.

@strugee Thanks for the hint

strugee

@FaheemMitha ;)

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Did you copy and paste that?

derobert

@FaheemMitha Yep.

☺ ← those ones I typed

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Fancy.

strugee

16:45

@derobert stop showing off

derobert

⟪⟐⟁⟫ @strugee or we'll have to hold a Unicode war?

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Sounds like a plan.

strugee

@derobert I'd lose, bigtime.

:P

derobert

⦕ I should enclose all of my messages for the rest of the day like this. Except that it'd be annoying. Unless I wasted way too much time, and turned to Greasemonkey. ⦖

Faheem Mitha

17:04

@derobert What does greasemoney have to do with it?

derobert

@FaheemMitha ⦕ Well, I could write a Greasemonkey script to automatically insert those characters in my chat messages. But sounds like too much work. ⦖

Faheem Mitha

@derobert I assume that is some javascript thing.

derobert

It's a Firefox extension for running custom JavaScript on pages. Chrome has something similar, too.

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Yes, I vaguely recall.

Braiam

@derobert say that to Grace Note

derobert

17:19

@Braiam Does GraceNote sing?

All I know about GraceNote is what I can gather from the avatar of an obscure (at least here) online card game.

Well, I found the valued associate post and all I know now is that SE also doesn't know if GraceNote is a 'he' or 'she'.

They didn't use 'it', so I guess we can safely assume not robot.

derobert

17:48

Hmmm. We need to figure out what error-handling should be. If anything. Right now, it has a mishmash of questions tagged.

Also: unix.stackexchange.com/tags/wildcards/synonyms ... wildcards says its about globs, need two more votes for that synonym

Patrick

error-handling sounds like it's relevant to programming. Can't think how it'd apply to U&L

derobert

@Patrick Yeah, its a weird tag. But it's relevant in (for example) shell scripts.

If it makes sense at all...

Patrick

yeah, shell scripts i can see, but not other than that

derobert

Right now, it has no tag wiki describing what it should be used for, and people just seem to throw it on random questions involving an error.

Getting rid of the tag is, of course, a perfectly valid option.

Patrick

I think the questions which are using it in respond to handling exit status are reasonable. So the question becomes, does it offer meaningful value to those questions? Would just shell-script be relevant enough?

derobert

17:59

Yeah. I think just shell-script would be enough.

(And we have both efi and uefi. Great. Another tag set to clean up)

terdon

18:11

@derobert voted

Andrew

19:14

how do I make a opensuse bootable usb on Ubuntu

Patrick

Sounds like a question for the site. The chat is generally not the place for questions.

Andrew

19:31

Humm

I tried dd and unetbootin either works

1

Q: Trouble installing openSUSE 13.1 via live USB

I downloaded the 32-bit KDE iso for openSUSE 13.1 from software.opensuse.org/131/en. I am attempting to install, from USB, to a computer currently running Debian/Fedora. After downloading the openSUSE iso, I made an openSUSE live USB using the following command: sudo dd if=/home/mike/downloads/o...

linux kde opensuse liveusb

FOund this.

mikeserv

19:50

@Andrew find its root image file - theres probably a .sfs on the disk somewhere. Mount it. Format your target disk. Copy the contents to your target disk. Tweak as necessary and install bootloader.

Patrick

20:23

o.O
read only mode?

Faheem Mitha

20:38

@Patrick apparently. Chat is still working?

Apparently yes.

@Patrick hi, how are you?

Patrick

I want to scream at the authors of puppet.

:-)
and you?

Faheem Mitha

@Patrick Why?

@Patrick Well, I had a strange day. As I mentioned earlier.

Patrick

some things, which are really simple, are just exceedingly difficult

Faheem Mitha

Hopefully tomorrow will be less strange.

@Patrick Ah, Ok. Never used that. An automation tool?

Patrick

yes, configuration management would be a more appropriate description

Faheem Mitha

20:41

@Patrick Ok

Are you unhappy the site is read-only? Some answer you are itching to get in?

Patrick

nah. was just browsing around when the site went out to lunch and then threw a 500 at me. refreshed and got the read-only notice

I'll cope

Faheem Mitha

ok

Patrick

/me wonders if it's just U&L

Faheem Mitha

SO too

Patrick

oh wow

Faheem Mitha

20:43

@Patrick are you a hg or git user?

Patrick

git

you?

Faheem Mitha

@Patrick Ok. I guess most people around here are.

@Patrick Mercurial.

Patrick

nope. i've used cvs and svn in the past, but the last several years just git

Faheem Mitha

@Patrick Sorry, the question mark should not have been there. I meant, I use mercurial

Patrick

ah :-)

Faheem Mitha

20:46

Before that I used svn for a bit. Before that, nothing.

Patrick

oh, and I've used IBM's clearcase.

Faheem Mitha

@Patrick the proprietary thing

Patrick

yeah

only one person can edit a file at any given time. And if that person leaves the company with a file still checked out, well, may god have mercy on your soul.

Faheem Mitha

@Patrick :-) not a fan?

Patrick

you could say that

Faheem Mitha

20:49

I guess mercurial and git are pretty good by historical standards.

Though that may not be saying much.

Patrick

yeah, i've never used mercurial, but from what i've seen, it's pretty comparable to git

Faheem Mitha

@Patrick Maybe. I've never used git.

Or at least not seriously.

I wonder how they archive this chat if the site is in read-only mode.

Patrick

probably uses a different DB

Faheem Mitha

maybe

@Patrick there are actually interesting things happening with mercurial. have you heard of the evolve extension?

Patrick

nope

Faheem Mitha

20:54

mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/EvolveExtension

This is actually useless as an intro.

Anyway, it is interesting work, and innovative.

gerg.ca/evolve/index.html

is a better link

derobert

Oooh! Something even Stephane Chazelas doesn't know. I bet there isn't an answer.

Faheem Mitha

He could be just about to answer.

@derobert this might be a good day for that getting to know you answer.

we are up to 14 or so, I think.

Yes, 14.

Oh, come on. I'm sure it would be a fascinating answer. You could tell us all about your slow climb to your current status of guru/expert.

derobert

@FaheemMitha I've actually started writing it. Just was real busy in April and so far in May, and haven't had a chance to finish it yet.

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Ok, you could always post an unfinished version. I think at least mikeserv has.

Patrick

I think its better finished. If it's long, I'll read it once, but won't if it's edited. I'm lazy :-)

s/won't/won't read it again/

Faheem Mitha

21:11

Actually @mikeserv, thought of adding to your most excellent answer?

Braiam

@derobert done

Braiam

21:54

who is our xorg expert? askubuntu.com/q/400918/169736

I was sure it was fairly easy, but didn't found an answer anywhere.

meh, @derobert and I have the same principles with tags :)

unix.stackexchange.com/posts/32479/revisions

derobert

@Braiam hah. I saw you beat me to one of the others

FYI... Instead of retagging this one, I just voted to delete: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/25476/…

Braiam

I downvoted

@slm @terdon vote to delete that one ^

derobert

And once that one is gone, we'll have finished rm remove

We'll have removed delete and deleted remove. Yeah.

Braiam

looks for the beer

derobert

@Braiam I know how to do that, at least from the command line. Posting an answer.

(Well, I know how to in theory. Won't post it unless it actually works.)

@Braiam wait, I take that back. I know how to disable the middle button. Not how to make it not paste, but only scroll...

I'm somewhat confused, as pressing and holding the middle button doesn't scroll...

I'm going to hope this is some weird hardware thing, and its generating the normal button 4/5 for scrolling

Patrick

22:15

@derobert I thought Xorg considered middle click, mouse wheel up, and mouse wheel down to be 3 separate buttons

derobert

@Patrick It does. But if you read that question, the OP is generating scrolling by middleclick + push stick

Patrick

ohhh

derobert

@Patrick just think, xinput can set a 3x3 transformation matrix on the mouse... what fun that could be!

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