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Kiwy

2:03 PM

To be a file or not to be that is the eternal question of a spotless mind

slm

Read Stephane's comments on this one

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Q: Pattern Matching and Delete the whole line

I want to delete all the Lines of File 1, if Column1 of File1 matches exactly with Column 1 File2. File 1: r001:21:10 21 AAAAAATTTGC * = XM:21 r002:21:10 21 YAAAATTTGC * = nM:21 r001:21:10 21 TTAAAATTTGC * = XM:21 r0012:21:10 21 LLAAAATTTGC ...

Jenny D

@slm Stephane has a very impressive range and depth of knowledge

terdon

2:33 PM

That's why we call him POSIX man. Sysadmin by day, cape wearing and fearless standards defender by night!

Jenny D

@terdon Now you made me start to imagin a crossover between SomethingPositive and StackExchange.

desperately searching for brain bleach

terdon

:)

Faheem Mitha

2:49 PM

@Braiam Thanks.

This looks extremely closable. What do you guys think?

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Q: Testing a Linux router on Laptop with one NIC

So, I have these instructions on converting my Linux machine to a router using (enable IP forwarding, NAT). Now my laptop has only one NIC and I want to test this setup. Any ideas how I can do this? (Please give details if required, I am not very good on linux) Note: If there is a tool, I need a...

linux virtual-machine routing router

@terdon :-)

How do you know he is a sysadmin? He is not very forthcoming about himself.

Kiwy

@FaheemMitha you do no read the books, how @slm leave and invent posix ?

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy Don't follow.

Kiwy

@FaheemMitha that's was a joke, a bad one apparentlyt

terdon

@FaheemMitha yeah, voted to close

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy I didn't understand it.

terdon

2:52 PM

@FaheemMitha that's how: stephane.chazelas.free.fr/Stephane-CHAZELAS-2010.html

Faheem Mitha

@terdon The other one by that guy is also rather general

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Q: Compiling Linux kernel for a router

I want to make an installable linux kernel that has routing enabled already. So anyone can install it on their machine, do some configuration as required, and machine will work fine for their routing needs. This is what I did so far. Downloading and decompressing a vanilla linux kernel. placing...

compiling linux-kernel configuration routing bootable

Kiwy

@FaheemMitha I do agree those two question needs to be shutdwon

Faheem Mitha

I think this is probably also another unclear what you are asking

Kiwy

also I love the part of stephane website

mostly based on OpenSource solutions (XEN based virtualization, LAMP, ad-hoc tools mostly for the software engineering department..., Ubuntu/CentOS/OpenSUSE/WindowXP Operating Systems)

Faheem Mitha

What rep do you need to vote to close?

@terdon Ah, he has a web site.

Wow, actually quite forthcoming. Gilles needs to point us to his site.

Michael Mrozek

3:07 PM

@FaheemMitha unix.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/close-questions

Faheem Mitha

@MichaelMrozek Thanks

Kiwy

@FaheemMitha before this you can just flag to raise big users attention

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy Big user?

Kiwy

more than 3k :)

as 3k is the limit to vote close

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy Right. As long as you are not calling anyone fat.

Kiwy

3:11 PM

@FaheemMitha certainly not, I would not allow myself to b that rude with person I never ever met

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy Just kidding.

X Tian

3:53 PM

Hi Everyone, I just rejected 2 edits to comments, here's one, is sytem ok ? does this happen occassionally ? unix.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/40049

Michael Mrozek

@XTian There are no suggested edits to comments, those are posts. But yes, it's fine; anyone can suggest edits, you don't even need an account. We get spam edits from time to time, that's why people review them before they go live

X Tian

@MichaelMrozek ok tks, just checking

Braiam

4:17 PM

anyone recognize if there's a API for this? or OP is beyond hope...

Michael Mrozek

@Braiam ioctl?

Braiam

@XTian next time reject them as "Vandalism"

strugee

@Braiam there probably is an API

OP is beyond hope anyway

terdon

Huh? One of my Super User answers will be "featured on lifehacker"!?

superuser.com/revisions/709302/6

Braiam

heh, terdon will get more repz in SU...

terdon

4:27 PM

@Braiam yeah, and for a ridiculous answer instead of one of my good ones.

Braiam

> viewed: 889 times

btw, why didn't you used mktemp in the tex_file variable?

terdon

@Braiam no idea. Thanks, I did now.

@Braiam how do you see the views?

Braiam

derobert

@strugee No, I don't have access to freedesktop security bugs. I wonder WTF is up that is still marked...

terdon

@Braiam ah, I see, so the trick is not being blind then.

Braiam

4:40 PM

walks away

derobert

@Braiam there are a lot of APIs for that.

open, close, read, write, seek, ioctl, fcntl, …

various things in /proc and /sys

Braiam

@derobert see my last comment ;)

derobert

@Braiam OP is beyond hope? Yeah, certainly.

So is the "make my own router" OP.

terdon

@derobert yeah, does anyone get what he's trying to do?

derobert

I'm pretty sure OP doesn't, and its all down hill from there.

Braiam

4:48 PM

he commented on my answer... he plans to do a stick router now...

derobert

4:58 PM

@Braiam I'm so tempted to give the answer of how you can do routing over one Ethernet interface. All you need is to set up VLAN tagging. You can route between VLANs. Sure, you probably want at least two more machines, and a not-so-cheap managed switch as well... But thankfully I can avoid the temptation, since the question is closed.

ppr

8:14 PM

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Q: How can I install tactile audio keys on my latitude?

I have a Dell latitude 6430u which has three tactile keys for mute/audio decrease/audio increase. On debian (sid), either with xfce or gnome, these keys don't work well. The mute key has never work. The two others work sometimes, but not well (I have to press twice, sometimes nothing happens, .....

drivers keyboard-shortcuts

Gramps

8:46 PM

Good Friday!! Anyone have a minute to answer a question on sed substitute command?

Faheem Mitha

9:00 PM

@Gramps For the most part, questions are better asked on the main site; far more people will see it. Also check that your question hasn't been answered already on the site. Or, for that matter, google.

Gramps

my lack of knowledge in SED was why i was coming here asking for direction and to see if it has been asked.

Faheem Mitha

@Gramps There are a couple of general category substitution questions that @terdon has been collecting in what amounts to a faq. what is your question about?

See

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Q: Let's compile a list of canonical Q&As

A few of us were talking about this the other day in chat, as we are now quite a bit larger and with several thousand Q&As, there are certain questions that are asked very often. Things like redirecting output, process substitution, batch renaming of files, fixing/reinstalling grub, etc. Let's c...

discussion

See specifically meta.unix.stackexchange.com/a/2710/4671

@Gramps you could just do a keyword search, either on unix.sx or (perhaps better) on google. If it is something simple it has probably already been asked.

Braiam

9:18 PM

@derobert thanks god is already closed

Faheem Mitha

@Braiam What question?

@Gramps in any case, I'm not in charge of this channel, nor is anyone else, so if you want to ask, ask.

Gramps

dont want to affend or make anyone made.. just wanted to discuss to get a better understanding of sed

Faheem Mitha

@Gramps Ok, go ahead.

Gramps

Im not trying to ask for a solution Im asking for a better understanding of how to do something.

Faheem Mitha

There is probably next to nobody here right now, but anyway...

Gramps

9:24 PM

well Ive used the basic substitute command s/ / /g before but Im lost in trying to figure out how in the pattern match to indicate a specific phrase and ending within a line. Per reading on grymoire on /& Im still a little confused on how to pass s/[foo][bar]/ /g

should I be reading more on regular expressions?

If I knew what to look for I dont mind reading on a bunch of questions but the issue is I dont know what Im looking for

Faheem Mitha

@Gramps I'm not sure what you are asking. Do you have a specific question? It is probably better if you give an example of what you are trying to do.

Gramps

ok... this actually might help: stackoverflow.com/questions/17988756/…

Faheem Mitha

10:03 PM

I see several close votes for

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Q: Installing mpd 1.7 on debian squeeze

How could I install mpd 1.7 or even 1.6 on debian squeeze? It's been suggested to me that I should use backports, but I did not quite understand what I should do in case of unmet dependencies. For instance, mpd 1.7 exists on wheezy-backports but it depends on libraries that are a greater version ...

debian mpd backports

I'm trying to help this guy. What question do you think this is a dupe of?

Ok, I see it is being voted to close as a dupe of the general backporting question. But it is not a dupe, it is a specific question about backporting a particular piece of software.

Faheem Mitha

10:32 PM

Ok, it has been closed. This is annoying.

I've added a reopen vote.

derobert

It really looks like an instance answered by the generic question...

@FaheemMitha I've upvoted it though, so now OP has enough rep to join chat

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Thanks.

@derobert Every question of this nature is different.

I don't agree with a close vote here.

what rep is required for chat?

Braiam

weird... the package page doesn't have package that are not available in wheezy/-backports packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/mpd

derobert

@FaheemMitha 20

Faheem Mitha

@Braiam Yes, he must have done something wrong. where is the dmo stuff coming from?

derobert

10:42 PM

deb-multimedia.org is the only place it comes from

anthony@Zia:~$ apt-cache policy mpd
mpd:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1:0.18.8-dmo2
  Version table:
     1:0.18.8-dmo2 0
        500 deb-multimedia.org testing/main amd64 Packages
        200 deb-multimedia.org unstable/main amd64 Packages
     0.18.8-1 0
        500 http.us.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
        200 http.us.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
     0.16.7-2+b1 0
        150 http.us.debian.org/debian stable/main amd64 Packages

... there is a dmo version of mpd

Faheem Mitha

@derobert yes, I don't usually use deb-multimedia because it causes problems. plus whats-his-name says he only uses source format 1 because his setup doesn't support 3, which is nutty, and causes problems when you are trying to backport.

derobert

@FaheemMitha Yes, sometimes it causes problems. But it also makes so many things work better...

Like, an actual ffmpeg

Faheem Mitha

@derobert What does? source 1?

derobert

deb-multimedia.org

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Oh, yes, sometimes the packaging there is useful.

derobert

10:47 PM

and yes, checking, libmp3lame0 1:3.99.5-dmo2 is the current version in deb-multimedia

Faheem Mitha

but installing packages from there if you are not careful causes conflicts with the official version.

derobert

sure. It's one of those "if it breaks, you get to keep the pieces" things

I'm not sure how many difference there are that I actually use/care about, other than dmo has ffmpeg, debian has libav.

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Ok, so your problem is sorted?

Unfortunately, you don't get to add an answer unless the question is reopened. If you ask nicely, perhaps the people here will vote to reopen. :-)

derobert

fine, if OP is going to provide an answer, I'll vote :-P

trelosae

yes it is sorted

thanks again

derobert

10:57 PM

I will suggest editing that question to make it clear it's about how the general process in the other question doesn't work...

trelosae

will do

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Sounds reasonable.

@derobert Do you want that before you vote to reopen?

derobert

I already voted to reopen. But it will help you get the other 3 votes, I think.

Plus there is now a bunch of info in the comments that should be incorporated.

trelosae

so about the dmo packages.. I installed them from the backports because they where a more recent version than what I had. Should I remove them?

Faheem Mitha

@derobert True.

@trelosae I suggest you update your question with more information about the speciific situation.

@Braiam would you vote to reopen?

trelosae

10:59 PM

@FaheemMitha I'm editing it right now.

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae installed them from the backports? what backports?

trelosae

@FaheemMitha squeeze backports

derobert

The dmo stuff doesn't come from squeeze-backports, it comes from deb-multimedia

trelosae

oh no, scratch that. it said bpo not dmo

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Ah, totally different.

that just means backports. debian terminology.

trelosae

11:05 PM

i see

so when i edit the question should i just add pretty much what was said in the comments? any tips?

derobert

the goal of the edited question should be to (a) make it so no one needs to read the comments; (b) make it so someone who has the same need and asks Google finds your question

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae What derobert said.

HelpingHand

I have a question: when trying to create a AP by following this tutorial forums.kali.org/… I cannot connect due to "The wrong password has been entered." I am positive that I am using the right password, but it will not let me connect. I'd appreciate it!

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Try to include all relevant information that you used to resolve the issue.

Can we get more reopen votes on unix.stackexchange.com/q/117554/4671 , please?

@casey ?

Ok, not at 3000 yet.

trelosae

11:25 PM

ok is the question better now?

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Your question still mentions dmo.

Also, you have

apt-get build-deps mpd=0.16.7-

i think you are missing something after that.

"when I ran debuild -uc -us it gave me errors about unmet dependecies."

if the error message isn't excessively long, include it.

@slm vote to reopen, please?

@MichaelMrozek ditto

@Gilles ditto

Ok, off back to bed. Take care, guys.

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