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02:40
@Gilles @derobert @terdon Where I used to work we had a lot of old Sun equip. that was regularly up for 3+ years. Old Unix hats would brag about this. The 3 R&D storage SANs were Sun systems as well. These had been up for I believe ~4-5 years. Well one night the oldest of the 3 stopped working. SA's triaged it and finally though, let's reboot the system.
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So, apparently there was a firmware glitch where when the system had been up for >900 days (never tested I guess) a counter would roll over, and when this counter rolled, the system thought it was a new installation and would come up with the file systems wiped.
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Sun had never had any customer keep the systems up this long, so they were completely unaware of this roll over issue, and promptly gave us a hot fix, but there were many ppl sweating that nothing would bring either of the other 2 systems down or all data would've been lost. Of course there wree backups but it would've taken weeks to months to rebuild/restore everything.
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03:09
@Gilles @terdon @derobert - here's the longest uptime I've ever seen: fabian-affolter.ch/blog/uptime-rekord
3150 days
 
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06:02
@slm that may be one of the best oldtime UNIX stories I've ever heard
although to be fair I haven't read that many
 
2 hours later…
07:47
Morning, guys. Have a nice workday ^_^
 
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12:20
Hi @setevoy @slm @derobert
are you around here?
Hi jrg
@Williams hi... working :-)
I'm having issue in the port..
I want to open the port so that it can be test with different ip (different network_
It's showing me port close..
Can you help me right now?
again problems with iptables?
But differnt port
It was with 8000
now with asterisk 5060
I really do not use iptables, so sorry but I don't think I can give you adequate suggestion :-(
12:35
ohhh no issue..waiting for other response
12:59
@slm you have got to be joking! So the machine just rebooted with no data? Ouch.
hi @terdon
Hi @Williams. Sorry, I know nothing about IP tables, not a network guy.
slm
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13:17
@terdon - the system was in a hung state b/c this counter had rolled over, so the only course of action that seemed appropriate was to reboot, the act of rebooting is what caused the failure to happen, since that counter was now 0. But no one knew until it started to happen.
Yeah, but wow!
Can anyone help me to open the port here
slm
slm
I know, it's funny now but ppl were like WTF
@Williams - I can't now, I have to get ready for work, otherwise I would have already been helping, sorry
Okay
 
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15:54
@Williams and did changing '8000' to '5060' in the previous solution not work?
16:32
@terdon @slm I've put in an edit for
Let's see if its actually possible to get this through the edit approval queue
Cool. I'd add something about command line since the terms you used will probably be gibberish to most OSX users.
@terdon Please improve it. The edit was just approved.
Yeah, I just approved it. I had the same issue you did with mine: no improve button
Done
@terdon Well, you actually got beaten to the punch, unless you have a different name on the site than on chat.
??
no
16:37
@terdon check the suggested edit, you're not on there as having approved
Ah, OK. I did but probably someone else did before me and the edit was already approved.
Yep. Hence getting beaten to the punch :-P
Yes, I use "terdon" for chat cause I like to go incognito. On the main site I post as either "Gilles" or "StephaneChazelas".
But don't tell anyone.
@terdon then who's Gilles in chat?
A bot.
16:40
ohhh. that makes sense.
I swear it's Stack Exchange tradition to have at least one bot on every site (like Jorge Castro on AU)
Ouch, it really isn't
Bots have been a bit of a controversy lately
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Q: What should be the limits for chat bots interacting with regular users?

Mad ScientistThere is a controversy about a certain chat bot in some chat rooms. The one major disagreement is about the bot greeting new users in chat. Some users argue that this is helpful to explain the chat room rules to new users and make sure they actually notice them, while others argue that bots shoul...

Very few chat rooms have bots and people have some strong feeling about what these bots should do.
Just in case it wasn't clear, we don't have any bots here.
16:42
@terdon Sure. And I'm actually Jon Skeet...
@derobert :)
I just come here to hide from .Net
hah. to be clear, i was talking about answering bots like Gilles, not chat bots
Since we can't see facial expressions or hear tone of voice, I need to ask. @strugee you are of course aware that Gilles is not a bot (despite all evidence to the contrary) right?
@terdon Not a bit? I dare say he's a least a word, if not a long word...
At least, that's whats required to store his rep.
16:46
damn typos...
Well, he hasn't owned up to being one but hasn't denied it either:
Oct 6 at 20:47, by slm
@Gilles - are you a bot? 8-)
Oct 6 at 20:48, by Gilles
@slm that's an awfully personal question
@terdon yes i am
@strugee I thought so but such are the limitations of chat.
ah, the internet
16:58
@terdon Wow... that's amazing.
@derobert all hell broke loose in the SU chat room
and in javascript
Curious, does JavaScript still have its auto-greet?
Not sure
they feel very strongly about it
The main issue was the heavy-handed way this was handled by SE
It sounds like SE didn't intend for it to be heavy handed. Reads to me like everyone decided to take a fairly minor issue, and have a war over it.
Which gives me an idea.
We need a bot here that figures out if a person is an emacs user, and if so flags all their messages.
:evil:
@derobert not quite. An SE dev came in to the SU chat room, got greeted, was annoyed and simply banned the bot
This bot is a community project there and very popular in the chat room, the chat greeting had been decided upon through a meta post and the chat room regulars were quite involved.
The dev just came in and acted on a whim while giving no explanation.
17:11
Probably unaware of all the history.
A community manager came in later and tried to smooth things over but the initial reaction was very heavy handed.
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Q: Some issues with a recent action that was taken regarding the Root Access chat bot

allquixoticI would like to discuss with some civility a recent action that has occurred in the Root Access chatroom. First, allow me to catch everyone up on the facts of the situation: Overview Q: What happened? A: Please see this message in Root Access chat. This decision is the primary reason for askin...

Yeah, I saw that
@derobert there is a valid point here. If SE is supposed to be a community, then it should act like one. In this particular case, TBTB came down hard with no previous discussion and that was shocking to SE regulars.
It reads to me as some mod came in, unaware of the history, and was annoyed by the bot—possibly quite unreasonably.
Yeah, but not even a mod, a dev.
Who had never really been in the room before and was felt to be an outsider imposing the law.
17:13
And then, probably on a bad day (or if it was a dev, not really aware of what the various site rules, etc.) did the quick solution to what he thought wasn't allowed—throw the bot out
That's what people objected to not the specific issue of the chat bot as such
And—naturally—the community, aware of the history, took that as a giant f— you
pretty much
So I'd read that as SE not intending to be heavy-handed because, well, they didn't really have any intent at all
Just someone trying (and failing, spectacularly) to make things a little better
Oh, yes, absolutely. Just classic geek social awkwardness.
17:18
But, let's look on the good side! We fixed this morning!
And, from sample size 1, it's easy to get a real tag wiki through the edit queue
Yeah, I got Linux yesterday. You edited it as I recall.
I need help in asterisk..
Can anyone help me here?
@Williams how about you explain what is wrong with asterisk (IMO asterisk is *) and then we can help you... BTW, I'm not a bot ;)
17:21
@Williams Your best bet is probably to ask on the site, at least if its something you can boil down to Q&A format
@Braiam I thought * was splat...
My mean I setup the asterisk but from the differnt network I'm not able to register the sip using the zoiper..
I'm able this in same LAN..
@Braiam @derobert Please check
[general]
context=internal
allowguest=no
allowoverlap=no
bindport=5060
bindaddr=0.0.0.0
srvlookup=no
;disallow=all
allow=ulaw
alwaysauthreject=yes
canreinvite=no
nat=yes
session-timers=refuse
localnet=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
externip=XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX-----Here i used my server ip.
qualify=yes

[7001]
type=friend
host=dynamic
secret=7001
context=internal
mailbox=7001@vm-demo
@Williams To tell you the truth, I last ran Asterisk quite a while ago. That's why I suggested the main site...
@Williams as I said, for me asterisk is *, meaning I don't have idea what your problem is...
And when you post it on the main site, make sure to include any error messages you're getting.
@derobert You don't remember what can be issue..
I'm not getting any logs on the asterisk
It might asterisk not listening me
17:26
I would make sure you can ping, the port is open and you are doing forwarding...
I'm able to ping that server
but port is open and forwarding i could not understand you
@Williams Yes. Like you can have your zaptel config messed up, and it trying to use some weird signaling like AMI instead of B8ZS 5ESS on your PRIs. Or it thinks they're E1s. I didn't have zoiper, whatever that is...
@Braiam Please let me know the command to do so all
@Williams forwarding as port forwarding as can you telnet to the port?
@Williams I'm sorry, but it has been years. I only used it briefly. I really don't remember much about it.
But I guess I'd ask how do you know you're not able register with Zoiper (which, Google informs me is a SIP client)? It must be giving you some error, right?
17:30
My port is 5060
Zoiper showing registering..
how can i open and start to listen all..
OK, and it just says its registering forever? Or does it eventually say something else?
Yes
Registering forever
@Williams Do you have a firewall running? If so, have you opened port 5060?
i stoped the firewall
service iptables stop
Is i need to open the port?
then
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 5060 -j ACCEPT
I did that...
You'll definitely need to open the port in your firewall (and probably a few more).
17:36
Will it allow all?
It's TCP as well, not just UDP, I think.
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5060 -j ACCEPT??
Is it right?
even after firewall off i need to open the port?
Probably not, but if the firewall is on you need to open it
My firewall is off
I off using this
and yes, those iptables commands look reasonable. At least if you're going to accept that traffic from all interfaces
17:37
service iptables stop
I don't know what your iptables script does exactly. What does iptables -vL show?
Let me check
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 668 packets, 74407 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
0 0 ACCEPT udp -- any any anywhere anywhere udp dpt:sip
0 0 ACCEPT udp -- any any anywhere anywhere udp dpts:ndmp:dnp

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 501 packets, 178K bytes)
What can be other issue..even I disable the firewall
Ok. You aren't blocking any traffic currently.
So i enable the nat = yes or no?
yes...
If you're talking between things on a LAN, there probably isn't any nat.
But I don't know exactly what that Asterisk option does.
17:42
I'm not on Lan now
I'm now with differnt network
Should i use no of nat?
localnet=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
... that's not a LAN?
This is Lan..
I commented here
18:11
There! Something useful has been accomplished today. Must be time for lunch.
@derobert you took a backup?
@terdon Replaced the backup tape. Last one became full.
 
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19:16
@terdon How about we ask for tha SO question to be migrated to UL?
 
1 hour later…
20:19
@Braiam Which SO question?
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A: Automatically timing every executed command and show in Bash prompt?

Dennis WilliamsonYou could do this: $ bind '"\C-j": "\C-atime \C-m"' Or put this in your ~/.inputrc: "\C-j": "\C-atime \C-m" Then when you want to do time sleep 1 you'd type sleep 1 and press Ctrl+J instead of Enter. I would not recommend swapping the j and m in the bind command (or in the .inputrc file). ...

20:32
@Braiam too old
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Q: Disable migration for questions older than 60 days

Shog9This has come up a few times now: migrating old questions causes problems. The most popular solution to this to date has been to reset votes on migrated posts. This is do-able, but frankly it feels like treating a symptom, and doing so in a way that penalizes folks who answer what are by all ap...

boo :(
indeed
this question is OT on SO though
I can't vote to close any more because I already did long ago
I just voted to close the dupe as OT
 
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23:22
<rant>
@gparyani Chrome 31 is out? Oh, it came out last week. I think my Chrome process has been running for longer than that. I'm not an upgrade freak, I'm content with software that's more than a week old… Why should I waste time upgrading all the time? I wish there was a stable version of Chrome and Firefox! — Gilles 31 secs ago
</rant>
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Q: Session limit for OpenSSH server on Ubuntu Desktop 7.10

MatoI need restrict session limit on my OpenSSH server only for one session (one connection). I use Ubuntu Desktop 7.10. Of course Version is old, but I need it for experimental purposes. I tried modify my config file - /etc/ssh/sshd_config two ways: First I changed: MaxStartups 1 but it does no...

Ubuntu 7.10? Ok, I won't go that far
even 8.04 LTS is out of support
This one has an excuse at least: " Of course Version is old, but I need it for experimental purposes. "
Bugging someone to update a to this week's version is just annoying.

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