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1:17 PM
^^^ seems like things are back on track
 
1:35 PM
yngh...
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A: New Staff and Mod Labels on site metas and Meta Stack Exchange

user1044379I understand why you are hesitant to ship a simple orange box, as suggested by https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/367900/1044379. But this is unacceptably gaudy. Those big blue and orange boxes are literally all that I can see. On some site metas, the huge blue Mod boxes clash very weirdly with the...

 
really grabs your eyes, doesn't it? the blue background brings it up
 
grabs my eyes like a sewing needle being pointed right at one.
 
2:37 PM
Heh
Staff needs that big diamond energy
 
3:01 PM
Yeah, they're so ugly...
And so loud. I am a user first and a mod second and these make me feel as though all I am is a mod.
That might make sense on meta, but I don't want my posts on the main site to suddenly be received as more important or more accurate because I happen to be a mod.
Happily, there are more than enough users around who know a hell of a lot more than I do and are not shy about correcting me. But still.
 
@terdon well it's meta-only for now
you need to be part of a Collective if you want special treatment on the main site :P
 
Oh, right. I'd missed that. That does make it slightly less annoying. My mod status is more relevant on meta.
And I do get that a simple ♦ won't be very informative to new users.
 
So?
if that's the reason, this is again SO the company "fixing" the wrong things
 
@AndrasDeak Why?
We have been asking for a staff indicator for years.
And I know from experience that ♦ isn't enough to explain to new users that I'm a mod.
 
designing the UI around clueless noobs is the wrong solution
they should help noobs be less clueless
 
3:14 PM
Um. No?
They should absolutely design the UI around clueless new users.
 
right
 
They should do everything they can to make it easier for new users to understand our very arcane rules and extremely complex system so that i) we don't need to wade through so much crap and ii) new users have even less of an excuse for posting crap and we can get rid of it more quickly.
What's the point of designing the UI around the very small proportion of SE-experts?
 
I don't think there's a dichotomy. The two options are not "make loud UI elements to help clueless noobs" and "don't make loud UI elements to help small portion of SE experts"
but anyway, I've let go of the network for a while now
 
3:27 PM
@AndrasDeak Agreed. There is no reason to make loud UI elements at all. However, there is good reason to design the UI for newbies since they're the ones who will need to understand it, the rest of us know. Just... don't make it ugly, is all.
 

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