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Andras Deak

10:44 AM

Ugh, my router is keeping me out of the admin page. I'll have to check if it does the same via ethernet.

Andras Deak

12:46 PM

OK, it's my browser, not my router

Adam L

Hey so I have the arm64 Debian install operating correctly on my other machine now, but when it boots it still prints a message about missing firmware, even though its working fine and I supplied the files on a usb as instructed here https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware how do I access the boot logs so that I can transfer a text file to this machine post a question about it.

Also I maybe naïve but why can't they make a repository for the missing firmware issue that I can put in my sources.list?

Andras Deak

I think my works-perfectly-fine debian does the same thing

Adam L

what I mean is, they have the full list of firmware files on the wiki page, can I somehow get it to check for additions when I update? because it is asking for firmware for a completely different thing to what it asked for during installation, and so it would be neater to have my system updated as the issues continue to be resolved

yeah I have two VMs and a laptop install working perfectly thus far don't get me wrong im not complaining

Isaac

1:59 PM

@AdamL Which hardware is complaining, what is the message and have you installed the firmware-* packages available (yes they are many and yes they have been packaged already ?

Faheem Mitha

3:16 PM

What's everyone's favorite tool for taking screenshots? I expect there are a lot of options.

Andras Deak

I either use the printscreen button in gnome and crop that with gimp if necessary, or go straight to gimp to take the screenshot

for websites specifically I use firefox's built-in

Faheem Mitha

Do any of the popular browsers have a screenshot button? ATM I need a shot of a web page.

I could try printing, but I'm not sure if it will show a dropdown menu.

Andras Deak

Firefox has one, yes, and it's very nice. You can either select a region or take a screenshot of everything, including page-long websites.

Faheem Mitha

@AndrasDeak Ah, so it does have one. Ok. How to I get to it?

Andras Deak

that led me to meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333607/…

@FaheemMitha right click -> take a screenshot

Faheem Mitha

3:19 PM

@AndrasDeak Ah, well, that is simple.

Andras Deak

I have FF developer edition, but the feature has been available for a long while, so probably already there in vanilla firefox too

Adam L

@Issac well there are numerous erroneous messages that appear when I boot the system that's why I was asking how to retrieve a boot log

Faheem Mitha

@AndrasDeak I see you never got an answer.

Andras Deak

Nope...

Faheem Mitha

Hmm, I don't see this option on right-click for Chromium.

Andras Deak

3:21 PM

never used chrom* so I can't comment on that

Faheem Mitha

I'll give Firefox a shot. Thanks, @AndrasDeak.

Andras Deak

I bet there are add-ons for that. I used to have one for FF, but then I no longer needed it when it became built-in.

the extension also allowed me to annotate the screenshot, which was useful for bug reports on meta

Adam L

@FaheemMitha OBS Studio is pretty awesome I'm hoping there is a Linux version out

Faheem Mitha

@AndrasDeak For Chromium? Perhaps.

Andras Deak

@FaheemMitha yeah

@AdamL O seems to stand for Open which means it's a good bet ;)

Faheem Mitha

3:22 PM

@AdamL Sorry, I'm missing the context. Awesome for what?

Andras Deak

@AdamL directed replies save lives :)

Faheem Mitha

@AdamL It looks like it's free software, though I've never heard of it.

Adam L

It's actually one of the most impressive software ive ever used

Faheem Mitha

github.com/obsproject/obs-studio

GPL V2.

Andras Deak

I've been meaning to ask: does the L in FLOSS stand for anything, or is it just a joke?

Adam L

3:24 PM

I cant remember the creators name tho but yeah u wont be disappointed it's insane amount of functionality

Faheem Mitha

Yes, it's in Debian.

Andras Deak

ah, free/libre, nevermind

Faheem Mitha

@AndrasDeak Free Libre and Open Source Software

Andras Deak

the last time I looked it up on wikipedia I missed that in the body

Faheem Mitha

That's from memory.

Andras Deak

3:25 PM

@FaheemMitha it is correct, thanks :)

If the thing you want to screenshot spans more than a screenful in a website then you'll definitely want an intra-browser solution. So much easier than creating an artisanal patchwork screenshot

Faheem Mitha

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That's for obs-studio.

@AndrasDeak intra-browser solution? You mean, within the browser?

Andras Deak

yup

Faheem Mitha

Unfortunately that won't work, because right-clicking makes the drop-down menu go away. Unless someone can think of a workaround.

This is annoying. Shutter is not in Buster. I wonder what happened.

Andras Deak

Oh, you want to screenshot the dropdown. Yeah, you'll probably need an external tool.

Faheem Mitha

These days software just comes and goes. What happened to the Good Old Days (TM) ?

Andras Deak

3:37 PM

Is your printscreen button not wired into screenshots?

Faheem Mitha

@AndrasDeak Suggestions?

@AndrasDeak You mean on the keyboard? It might be.

Andras Deak

I already said: I use gimp. With or without the printscreen button.

Faheem Mitha

I think you mean to write "printscreen key".

@AndrasDeak So you did. Sorry. So GIMP can do general screenshotting?

Andras Deak

@FaheemMitha Yes

@FaheemMitha yes. In ancient versions it was file -> acquire -> screenshot. Now it's File -> create -> screenshot, I think.

you can choose to take a screenshot of the whole desktop, or a window, or select a region to grab, and whether to have delays before and after screenshots are taken.

Faheem Mitha

@AndrasDeak Hitting "Print Screen" takes a screenshot, but also makes the dropdown disappear. So that won't work either.

terdon

3:39 PM

I cannot recommend flameshot enough.

fosspost.org/reviews/programs/flameshot-amazing-screenshot-tool

Andras Deak

and crop is shift+c I think

Faheem Mitha

@terdon I think it was you who originally recommended shutter.

terdon

Yes, shutter is also good. I've since moved to flameshot.

Faheem Mitha

Shutter was pulled from Debian in 2018.

------------------- Reason -------------------
ROM; depends on obsolete GNOME2 libraries, inactive upstream

Does anyone know what ROM means?

terdon

Use flameshot.

Faheem Mitha

3:45 PM

Ok. Or GIMP perhaps.

Andras Deak

Gimp with delay should work fine, for what it's worth

Right-click inside the delay

Faheem Mitha

Anything that takes the focus away from the window makes the dropdown go away too.

Andras Deak

Screenshot -> delay -> focus, right-click, wait

Faheem Mitha

Flameshot says capture saved to clipboard. What's clipboard?

And GIMP says "click in a window to snap it".

Not sure what either of these mean.

unix.stackexchange.com/q/359478/4671 and the question it was closed as a dupe of.

Andras Deak

4:02 PM

@FaheemMitha if you start a snapshot the cursor becomes crosshairs. What you click next will be the target of the snap.

Clipboard is where you put stuff between copy and paste. Ctrl-v in an image program with a canvas should paste from clipboard.

Faheem Mitha

This answer worked, but I have no idea where the resulting image was put.

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A: Fedora 23: how to take screenshot with context menu window opened on the screen

If you're using GNOME, or have some GNOME tools installed, you can use gnome-screenshot with the --delay=# option. The delay is in seconds, and gives you that many seconds to open the "Project" menu so that it is open when the screencap actually happens. I also recommend the --window option to ke...

When I say worked, I got a noise which suggested an image had been saved.

Andras Deak

~/Pictures or ~/Downloads

Faheem Mitha

The man page mentioned a -f filename flag. Which worked, thankfully. I was getting quite fed up.

Should I edit the answer to mention that?

I went ahead and did that for the next fed up person who comes this way. Perhaps in 2025. Comments?

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A: Fedora 23: how to take screenshot with context menu window opened on the screen

If you're using GNOME, or have some GNOME tools installed, you can use gnome-screenshot with the --delay=# option. The delay is in seconds, and gives you that many seconds to open the "Project" menu so that it is open when the screencap actually happens. I also recommend the --window option to ke...

terdon

4:18 PM

@FaheemMitha It's what you paste from. But you can also save to a file, upload to imgur or open in another application.

Faheem Mitha

@terdon Do you use flameshot in gui mode, or from the command line?

terdon

gui

It sits in my taskbar:

terdon

5:43 PM

Hey, @StephenKitt, I just noticed that the advice given at redhat.com/sysadmin/set-hostname-linux has a pretty glaring error. It discusses why manually editing /etc/hostname isn't the best way of changing the host name, but it gives this as an example:

$ sudo echo "galapagos" > /etc/hostname
$ hostnamectl
   Static hostname: galapagos
   Pretty hostname: rockhopper computer
   Transient hostname: rockhopper-computer
   [...]

Presumably, they meant to use something like echo galapagos | sudo tee /etc/hostname since the redirection will fail.

Dunno if you know who to ping to get that fixed.

Faheem Mitha

6:44 PM

@terdon It seems the author is Seth Kenlon. Maybe ping him?

people.redhat.com/skenlon

Faheem Mitha

7:01 PM

It's hard to get people's email addresses nowadays. But it's in a git commit, so hopefully it's correct.

@terdon I posted Kenlon's email address, then deleted it. I can still see it in the history, so I expect you can too.

terdon

7:16 PM

thanks

Andras Deak

8:04 PM

mods and room owners both can

Faheem Mitha

@AndrasDeak Both can what?

Andras Deak

8:33 PM

can both read deleted messages

Faheem Mitha

@AndrasDeak Oh, I see.

Andras Deak

and the author, I think

Adam L

9:34 PM

@FaheemMitha sorry yes I was recommending OBS as an open source screen capture tool. But it has a lot of other functionality too, and although it isn't an intra-browser application it has a feature in it that allows you to capture rendered content from a specified url, once you get the hang of it its very easy to use, it sounds like your best option would be to use the display capture option, then open the mp4 and print screen as desired

my biggest problem is figuring out how to convert jpgs into gif. there seem to be a lot of online converters, but I need something I can script because although maple can make some nice animations with it's inbuilt features, it doesn't allow you to do so for the type I like making, all ive been able to do is code the creation of all the necessary jpgs (ie my desired animation frame by frame ) but hasn't got a feature to compile them into a gif

i can make them in OBS but I want to be able to write a script its getting pretty tedious like it is low resolution and i would have to spend ages cropping out the window frames etc

A spiral animation

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