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8:19 AM
“Update TAGs === +++ views ++++”, at least the edit comment is honest
I wonder how many people explore Unix.SE using tags
 
8:54 AM
What is the translation of this comment?
 
@thanasisp this is from a user who periodically updates questions just to add (often irrelevant) tags to them, apparently with the idea that doing so increases their views, and I’m guessing with the assumption that more views is better
 
hm.. I saw that a couple of times, once he proposed a good tags update, but I preferred to skip because of this comment, I was not sure what's meaning.
even in javascript, it throws error, === is valid, but not +++. He could just write "improve tags".
 
9:21 AM
@StephenKitt that's... not cool. It's basically bumping the post for no good reason.
 
@terdon exactly
 
 
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10:41 AM
The first review for this tablet says it's supported by the Linux kernel.
But would it be of any real use? It's amazingly cheap, which makes me wonder if it is just a piece of junk.
I also wonder how difficult installing Debian or similar on this thing would be.
Oh, looks like it needs to be plugged into a computer to work, in which case it probably isn't that useful for me. I'd much prefer something standalone.
 
That’s a tablet as in an input device, not a tablet as in a large smartphone
very useful for drawing but not much else ;-)
 
@StephenKitt So it wouldn't be useful for taking notes, I guess?
 
@FaheemMitha oh well that too, if you’d rather write on something like a piece of paper rather than use a keyboard
but this isn’t a tablet where you can write on the move and plug it into a computer later
 
10:57 AM
@StephenKitt Sometimes that can be useful.
@StephenKitt Yes, that's what I would like to have.
But I suppose they would be much more expensive. Still very cheap for the price, though. Especially for India.
 
 
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1:30 PM
we have community hand here on this post also helping post owner to rollback the edit
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A: How to get the primary group of a user?

BruceTry following commands id -g id -gn

how that's happening ?
 
1:48 PM
@αғsнιη perhaps the question author is allowed to roll back, and that cancels the dispute lock?
 
I don't know; but was locked, community unlocked; maybe a moderator can tell us better about that
20min is gap between unlock and rollback, so that was not unlock by rollback issue
 
I believe it was locked for a brief period of time, then rolled back afterwards.
 
Ah yes, the unlock is quite a bit older than the rollback.
 
It's be nice if bruce could explain why he was doing this.
 
@JeffSchaller you mean auto unlock after a period of the time passed?
 
1:52 PM
@αғsнιη yes, dispute locks are set for a pre-determined length of time
 
@αғsнιη correct; a timed lock is useful for temporary misunderstandings
 
maybe, that @terdon can say since he was locked that post
@JeffSchaller hmm
 
2:28 PM
@αғsнιη I just used a lock of one hour, the user waited until the lock was over and then rolled back again.
We are still hoping that the user will explain why they are doing this since rolling back useful edits is basically defacing the contents.
 
I have a 2 year old so I think I have an understanding why the user is doing what they are doing
 
bruce_b give the keyboard back to your dad!
 
My dad's name is actually bruce b :p
he's pretty stubborn too though
 
:DD
 
3:35 PM
@FaheemMitha as Stephen said that's an input tablet. It happens to be the same category that I'm using for grading mid-terms
 
@AndrasDeak Oh. So you have to hook it up to a laptop to use it? Then what? You write on an image of your exams with a stylus? Is that working well for you?
 
For which even the dirt cheap Genius tablet seems to work fine. I'll know for sure later this week, I plan to start grading the first remote mid-terms today.
 
@AndrasDeak Ok, but is that what you're actually doing, then?
 
@FaheemMitha Yeah, exactly. I literally just finished checking out the pdf reader I'm going to use (for the record: proprietary but free as in beer Foxit pdf reader). You can load a pdf, annotate it with a pencil tool and export it as pdf again. Exactly what I need.
 
@AndrasDeak Yes, I tried using Foxit once. Runs on Linux based systems, but overall ugh.
 
3:42 PM
I was going to use Krita that was suggesed here earlier, which is a really nice painting program, but not suited for handling my pages of pdf. It can read a pdf into layers and can export the layers in one sitting, but I want to see the entire document at one time.
 
The regular free PDF viewers don't work for you?
 
@FaheemMitha none that I could find. They don't normally seem to support free-hand annotations
 
@AndrasDeak And Foxit does?
 
I found a suggestion of xournal. But that was last updated in 2016 or something, and although there's a package for it in an "oldoldstable" debian repo it has clashing dependencies with my system
@FaheemMitha well, yeah, that's the point
without free-hand annotations I wouldn't need a tablet
 
@AndrasDeak Well, that's too bad. Did you ask on a more specialist forum?
Maybe Okular or Evince have mailing lists.
 
3:44 PM
@FaheemMitha wrong reply? It's a good thing that foxit works :D
but anyway: ain't nobody got time for that ;)
 
@AndrasDeak No, not wrong reply. I meant it's too bad that a free viewer doesn't support whatever it is you need.
 
@FaheemMitha so yeah, wrong reply :P But I understand
 
My implied comment was that maybe there one of those free viewers does have support, but for some reason you couldn't figure it out.
Generally a avoid proprietary software for all the obvious reasons, so this would make me quite unhappy.
 
I know. I do too, but not at all cost. My main objective is to grade these mid-terms by the end of the week.
in any case if you decide to try this angle, this is really cheap and works with debian (or at least worked a month ago; I've yet to plug it in after the most recent update)
 
@AndrasDeak I happily don't have any papers to grade. I was really looking for something to perhaps use to take notes. But I don't think that would work for that purpose.
Unless I'm missing something.
 
3:54 PM
Well it could, but not without plugging it in. There's dedicated note-taking software out there, but that's not what I need so I didn't investigate
 
@AndrasDeak Ideally I'd like something that isn't chained to a computer.
 
that might cost 10x more in hardware
assuming you want free-hand input
of course there are probably cheaper wacom-like non-wacoms with a screen
 
4:12 PM
@AndrasDeak There might be.
 
5:11 PM
@terdon He mostly drinks vodka but being a pretty serious alcoholic I'm sure he wouldn't turn one down
 
Ah, ouch.
That's still one of my all time favorite puns though.
"We find your American Beer is like making love in a canoe. It's fucking close to water!"
 
I think that may be a result of the liquor laws in many states. My state recently changed it but in many states you need a liquor license to sell anything over (I think 4%) alcohol so probably many beer companies ensure their beer is below that so it can be sold in grocery stores
 
5:35 PM
oh
that makes sense. I thought it was just British nationalism on the part of monty python
 
5:59 PM
I'm not a fan of most american beer either, it's mostly swill
Shiner bock is pretty good
 
I don't really know american beer. Apart from things like budweiser which hardly even counts as beer, really. I understand there's some pretty good craft beers being produced though.
 
"microbreweries" have been trending here for a few years now and it really is not my kind of thing. They are mostly all IPAs which is the worst tasting beer IMO and they usually don't serve anything other than their own home brewed sewage water. If they don't sell heineken I go elsewhere
 
6:42 PM
Ah, fair enough. IPAs are among the few beers I like. I don't tend to like lagers at all.
Heineken for example I avoid like the plague.
 
 
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10:27 PM
@jesse_b hey, that sounds like Finland. Thought the earlier limit was 4.7 % or something like that. They raised it to 5.5 %, which still leaves a good part of the better beers in Alko... (for some reason, that's also about the strength of the cheapish long drinks the large breweries here make, must be a coincidence...)
 

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