@MichaelHomer Not really. That's a minimal/technical qualification. A mod really should be somewhere around 40-50k minimum, have been active for a few years on the site, and ideally be someone who is already doing a lot of cleanup/maintenance.
I'm speaking specifically about U&L. Other site requirements might be different.
@JeffSchaller Upvoted, but this para could be clearer.
> If you plan on spending about the same amount of time on U&L, what other U&L activities (such as Asking, Answering, Editing, or Reviewing) that you currently do today do you see yourself doing less of when as a moderator? Valid answers include "spending more time on U&L", of course!
This could be part of the answer:
"No" is a perfectly reasonable response, but I thought I'd provide an opportunity if there were some ideas out there. — Jeff Schaller5 hours ago
output of date seems to be similar, yes. But if i open spotify, youtube and so on, the time definately runs faster. not much, but it runs faster. And it definately has to do with fedora29. — Julian2 mins ago
@RuiFRibeiro I see nothing strange in you getting 38 there.
If it weighted in the number of edits and accepted flags etc., it may be abetter score (as in reflecting moderator-like activity better), and you would probably get an even higher number.
@FaheemMitha oh, sorry, I misconstrued your explanation as meaning that sysvinit support was removed in a stable version and as a result should be re-introduced in a stable version.
@FaheemMitha yes, hence the quotes in my statement ;-).
@FaheemMitha yup, it doesn’t; the forthcoming Buster version does (see here).
@FaheemMitha in violation of policy, yes; crazy, not necessarily — it’s really hard to handle inter-dependent services in various configurations with sysvinit. Perhaps a better approach would have been to document the deficiencies and leave the initscripts; but deleting the initscripts did result in a number of people stepping up to write good initscripts, which might not have happened otherwise.
@FaheemMitha that’s always easy to say from outside. Maintenance is a lonely pursuit and you have to make decisions in a very small echo chamber, where the only feedback you get is bug reports. I’m not saying this was handled well, but I don’t think it’s fair to anyone (users and maintainers) to jump to conclusions.
@FaheemMitha the bug reporters, yes; again, I’m not saying this was handled well, I’m saying that qualifying this as “a scorched earth approach to maintenance” is easy without knowing the maintainer’s mind-set at the time.
@FaheemMitha @StephenKitt Nah, the guy was not open to discussing it. Not my problem, fix it. LOL
@FaheemMitha @StephenKitt I did know BIRD was a more modern and more sane implementation of a routing daemon, and it was the final push to see how BIRD worked.
@FaheemMitha @StephenKitt The biggest problem, is that in part due to my stupidity I had an unwanted DNS downtime of around 2h
@StephenKitt Being fair enough......the only advantage of quagga is the Cisco like syntax in the configuration files....but then you are not configuring it all the time
@StephenKitt The limitations are worse....only one instance of a routing ID per protocol
It's off the topic but I need help. I am having 3D .nii images with same height and width but different depth. I want to make depth equal. How can I do that? Any little help will be helpful.
@StephenKitt The private answer when I showed a possible interest to collaborate, it was rather terse and I thought that one was mostly for show, unfortunately. I did not find the whole context and contact a positive experience.
I remember why I quit software development years ago... Once you have the idea of what and how to do it, it so easy that it doesn't really have any challenge.
@Kiwy I disagree with this. I'm not really in software development but I think people get set in a way of "this is how you accomplish x task programmatically" but this prevents you from thinking outside the box (Hate using that phrase) which is how the true advancement happens
There is usually always a better/more efficient way to do things that takes forever to be discovered because most people get set in their ways and think they know what and how to do it already
On an unrelated note I think @JeffSchaller's new monkey may be fish shell :p
@Jesse_b That's my point, the only part I like about dev is conceptual, the implementation is just like typing any text looking for the right word at the right place. but it's not really interesting IMO. Conception though is quite awesome
@Jesse_b I think I won't last long in the computing field, I might open a bike repair shop or something like this. Computing technologies (network/system/dev) are not meant to be handle by human I'm almost sure all those technologies come from machine (Skynet maybe) It's exhausting to just stay up to date
@Kiwy Yeah, I have a tremendous amount of respect for software engineers. I certainly don't have the focus and dedication to do the required studying/reading in order to stay up to date
@Jesse_b even in system engineering , see how the job has change from individual server management to devops automated deployment of container with Ansible/Salt/Puppet/Chef
I know the kernel developers at my company need to stay up to date on basically all hardware advancements and new bugs. I took a class on the high level overview of how computers actually work at the hardware level and even that was overwhelming...they have to actually understand every aspect of it
@FaheemMitha Well i went from massive server with huge expensive vmware infrastructure to private/public cloud container administration with new tools such as kubernetes / ansible / saltsatck Storage also keeps on doing huge change going from self hosted SAN to cloud object storage. There's so many possibilities nowaday to build a sys architecture my head's spinning just thinking to it
@Kiwy Not all technologies are good (for some value of good), and not all are worth learning. And, in any case, there isn't time to know everything, of course.
Also software technologies are particularly prone to expiry dates.
@FaheemMitha I have, and I drafted an answer a long time ago that I never finished. I just think it'd be most appropriate, in this context of an election, to focus on qualities that you think would matter as a moderator
@Tim Any service that is not possible to self-host. Any service that is lunch by a small company that want to get bought by a bigger one, any service where cost is not manageable, any service that transfoms computing that could be done in house into a basic ressource. This model of development is IMO very bad for the planet and is not sustainable at all
@Tim You could learn the guitar if you like to, that wouldn't be as valuable as advance networking skills on Cisco routers, however if it is what you like go for it do not bother yourself with what others think
What do you love about the moderator job on Unix & Linux?
For me it's mostly about being able to fix things. Most reputation-based privileges on Stack Exchange are about unlocking the ability to cleanup new classes of problems -- being able to edit or even rewrite posts by yourself, then clo...
knowing that Michael's perspective on the "job" is that it's mostly cleanup & fixing things makes it more palatable, since that's a large part of what I like to do here as your friendly local janitor.
@Kiwy "Any service that is not possible to self-host. any service that transfoms computing that could be done in house into a basic ressource." Do you mind specify the technologies that make such services, and the technologies that make services that are sustainable?
@tim this only my vision of the world that imply this. Most persons would find perfectly OK to use AWS. IMHO however this is just a waiste of money and being irresponsible regarding sustainable dev and generations to come
Speaking of Kiwi's "devops automated deployment of container with Ansible/Salt/Puppet/Chef" and "new tools such as kubernetes / ansible / saltsatck Storage ", how shall I start to approach the concepts and their usages? Asking as a hopeless outsider
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@FaheemMitha Today had a funny one over here.... +-
@FaheemMitha We have to put a new DDIM, a colleague said: we have to go to the datacenter see the model, RAMs and PNs.... whipped out a script of mine that processes dmidecode (it is a pain in the ass decoding dmidecode output for machines with 1TB of RAM)
@terdon I get that part, but why do both show up in searches, particularly when "distros" says x179 and "distributions" is x163 (number of questions, presumably)
I am guessing it's the only way to keep the synonym searchable. So if bar -> foo (bar is a synonym of foo), when you search for bar, you will still find it. Otherwise, the synonym would be useless: you need new users who search for the synonym to find it.
@StephenKitt Yes and no? I don't know how it's implemented in the backend, but when you make foo a synonym of bar, all questions that were tagged foo are now tagged bar instead.
Apparently, they don't update the question count for the old foo tag though. So distros still shows 179 questions, but every one of those is actually distributions.
I’ve also seen cases (on another SE) where synonyms are half-created, so the old tag is suggested in completion, but if you try to use it, you get an error saying it needs to be created (because it’s a new tag, apparently) but it can’t be (because it already exists, as a synonym)
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Bitdefender Antivirus for Mac keeps notifying me that it has blocked App:/bin/rm with the following message: "An app you previously chose to block attempted to access your protected files again. We blocked the app to prevent it from altering the content of your protected files."
Should I remove ...
Linux stops you from writing to executable files if a running process is using them. But unlinking shouldn't be an issue, I would assume the inode just gets lazily removed like when you remove any open file.
@Jesse_b yeah, have fun with that. Though one would suppose that at least a systemd system could do without /bin/rm. Something booting up with shell scripts... I'm not so sure.
@ilkkachu I'm actually curious about that. I might try in a VM. I expect a system without /bin/rm will crash and burn eventually. Possibly on boot, very likely on reboot.
anyway, about that antivirus vs. /bin/rm thing. my question would be why something would try to run rm against those "protected files" and what that something would be
@ilkkachu I think that's a kernel thing? At least, I don't think it's a userland thing. Maybe @StephenKitt will know. But I can confirm that both Arch and Ubuntu have /tmpfs and they're as far apart as Linux gets.
@ilkkachu Yeah. My guess is that some malware tried to rm something and that caused the antivirus to block rm instead of whatever called rm.
> Arch uses a tmpfs /run directory, with /var/run and /var/lock simply existing as symlinks for compatibility. It is also used for /tmp by the default systemd setup and does not require an entry in fstab unless a specific configuration is needed.
My OpenBSD system would definitey not like starting up without rm. The /etc/rc script is using it for a number of clean-up tasks.
@terdon Well, it's all that systemd thing. It'll replace the need for POSIX shell utilities completely and you'll have systemd services for everything.
"Oh no, the remove-file service daemon thingy went down!"
@terdon Hold on.... There's a "safe rm"? One that doesn't actually delete files?
> Safe-rm is a safety tool intended to prevent the accidental deletion of important files by replacing /bin/rm with a wrapper, which checks the given arguments against a configurable blacklist of files and directories that should never be removed.
Users who attempt to delete one of these protected files or directories will not be able to do so and will be shown a warning message instead:
$ rm -rf /usr Skipping /usr
(Protected paths can be set both at the site and user levels.)
Recovering important files you deleted by mistake can be quite hard. Protect yourself today by installing safe-…
Has someone noticed in Mac, that despite Java being told in each installation that I do not want it notifying me of updates, the update daemon still runs and tries to phone home?
No, they are really very different. I find trying to understand macOS coming from OpenBSD is very much like trying to understand a Solaris system when coming from any of the free Unices.
It's another set of services, other ways of configuring everything.
A whole different infrastructure, so to speak.
Sure, from a user's perspective, it's just Unix.
I wanted to run cron jobs, only to discover macOS doesn't do them by default.
They use something else which included plists and XML (as far as I could see).
Not my cup of tea really, so I forced it to run its cron daemon (which was there) instead.
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