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4:59 AM

@Jesse_b What dark arts are those?

6:21 AM

@JeffSchaller - Who is Tim?

@derobert - Sure and that's helpful. The example you gave is my understanding of consoles. It breaks down at the point of understanding the Jetson and serial console.

@StephenKitt - I attempted to read "In the Jetson example, minicom is emulating a terminal; that terminal is connected over a serial connection to the Jetson board, and because the Jetson’s kernel is configured to use a serial-connected device as its console, minicom ends up acting as the Jetson’s console." multiple times. This is my understanding.

@StephenKitt - The system is the CPU and operating system. Attached to it is the keyboard and monitor. The system coupled with the keyboard and monitory are the physical console. The Jetson is connected to the system via a USB cable which is connected to a "something" on the Jetson. On the system, minicom is a terminal emulator. The terminal emulator is connected to the Jetson to what appears to the terminal emulator as a serial connection.

@StephenKitt - Since the Jetson's kernel is configured to establish communication to the system as a serial connection, the minimcom terminal emulator ends up acting as the Jetson's console.

@StephenKitt - So assuming my understanding is correct and if i attempt to relate this to the example @derobert gave of the physical terminal connected to the mainframe (which is considered to be the console), the minicom terminal emulator ends up acting as Jetson's console because minicom has the appearance of a physical terminal emulator that has a serial connection to the mainframe. Would that be a fair understanding?

Kusalananda

9:36 AM

@Motivated If you are replying to a specific message here in the chat, consider doing so by pressing the reply button/icon on that message (far right end). It's easier to connect the message with the related message in that way.

@Motivated Tim is a user that asks questions.

He learns by asking, which is good. He asks about very precise and detailed things, and sometimes his questions about a topic are only slightly varied, which others at times unfortunately gets annoyed about.

Stephen Kitt

9:53 AM

@Motivated yes, that last sentence is a very good summary. From the Jetson’s perspective, minicom might as well be a physical terminal — it acts just like one because it emulates one. The “system” (the other PC, with its CPU, operating system, attached keyboard and monitor) are only relevant because they host minicom.

Faheem Mitha

1:07 PM

@Motivated (a) why do you ask and (b) are you sure you want to know?

Stephen Kitt

19 hours ago, by Jeff Schaller

@Motivated you should meet Tim!

Faheem Mitha

Amazingly, Tim has asked 1251 questions. That's really quite staggering.

That's a question every day for approximately 3 1/2 years.

@StephenKitt I see.

And yes, I can understand why Jeff said that.

19 hours ago, by Motivated

@StephenKitt. I am attempting to have a precise understanding so that it enables me to establish a stronger foundation to progress further.

Hmm.

I always think that people who ask questions like these should be studying maths instead.

That's what my physics teachers used to say to me, and I can now kind of see their point.

Though it's also the case that physics people don't want to think much about the maths they use. Perhaps because it's painful. Perhaps because they don't really understand it.