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2:11 AM

@Kusalananda Is /bin/sh from solaris 10 box a korn shelll? /bin/sh -> /sbin/sh How do I know this?

@JohnDoea What does your own answer add that the other answers did not have?

user141350

@Fabby - in my view it focuses on the general concept rather than calculation, add some distinctions, and is more didactic and accessible.

Fabby

@JohnDoea Again: What does your answer add that the other answers don't have?

user141350

@Fabby distinctions: Show file creation mask as a variable, show mask as a value, adds intros to logical operations needed to understand the concept well enough, addiing terminology (ugo, ∧ sign) and more.

Fabby

@JohnDoea Answering. Let me re-read in 5 minutes.

@JohnDoea So what you're doing is posting an additional answer that summarizes all other answers and extends on the existing ones a bit?

(Smoke! BRB)

@JohnDoea Back.

What are you trying to accomplish with your answer?

user141350

2:47 AM

@Fabby this (what you described), and also, a communal-supportive comment or edit to show how 0666 ∧ 0555 -> 0444 is not subtruction even though it seems as such...

Fabby

@JohnDoea Than an edit to one of the existing answers would be better.

What you do is not something we do here: Questions get asked and Answers get provided.

converting a comment from someone else into an answer or summarizing a bunch of answers and then expanding them is frowned upon.

@PrabhjotSingh o/

user141350

@Fabby I don't agree as edits are usually very hard to be accepted here --- there is a tradition not to deviate from original phrasings here in a general manner. This is too big for an edit IMO.

Fabby

@JohnDoea Well, let's see what @StephenKitt says when he wakes up...

I'm going to sleep! Good night...

user141350

Maybe I misexplained myself: What I did was to write my answer based on reading on the subject and giving my own answer.

user141350

Okay

user141350

2:53 AM

Good night !

Fabby

@JohnDoea Like I said: it's not something we do here.

user141350

Why not?

user141350

Anyone can write an answer based on how he understands it is best to answer...

Fabby

E.G.: here is an example where I asked a question and then immediately answered

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Q: Simple command-line calculator

Issue: Every now and then I need to do simple arithmetic in a command-line environment. E.G. given the following output: Disk /dev/sdb: 256GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt Disk Flags: Number Start End Size File system Name Flags 1 1049kB ...

I got a better answer than mine, immediately deleted my answer and only undeleted after a week, to show that all the other answers are better than the original.

So if you have a problem, researched it and post a question and an answer in one sessio: Kodos to you! Sharing knowledge is all good!

If you ask a question, get a bunch of great answers and then write your own,

...

well... most people do not react well to that.

user141350

I don't know such a strict policy as you describe.

user141350

2:57 AM

That forbids me on answering a question a few days after posting it instead of at the same time...

Fabby

It's not a policy: it's just how people generally feel like for investing their time

user141350

What do you mean by investing their time?...

Fabby

@JohnDoea No, I'm not saying anyone forbids you to answer...

user141350

I left it to other people to decide what to do with their time generally....

Fabby

I'm saying you're not going to get many upvotes with that kind of answer is all.

If I were you, I'd leave the answer in and see what the community says...

user141350

2:59 AM

Oh, I don't care, I'd rather learn this this way even in the cost of downvotes.

Fabby

if you get tired of losing rep with that answer, just delete it and the negative rep will automatically reverse.

@JohnDoea I'm also not saying you cannot lear this way...

user141350

I know that if an answer is removed the rep goes back. This is a good answer in my view that just needs a small addition, I have no intention of deleting it...

Fabby

Cool! No issue.

user141350

Well than I see no reason why you are right.

Fabby

(But then: I'm a rep whore)

I'm not right, nor correct: I'm just stating how most people will feel about your answer is all.

user141350

3:01 AM

It's a fact I've learned from the answer so far and learned new things when creating this answer.

user141350

Okay

user141350

Whatever

user141350

:)

Fabby

I need sleep anyway...

user141350

I don't care

Fabby

3:01 AM

Good night!

user141350

Good night !

user141350

^__^

overexchange

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Q: Migrating shell scripts from Solaris 10 to RHEL 7.5

Source environment: $ uname -a SunOS machine1 5.10 Generic_150400-63 sun4u sparc SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise $ pwd / $ ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 1 19:39 /bin/sh -> ../../sbin/sh Target environment: $ pwd /root $ ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 4 Jul 16 12:10 ...

linux bash shell-script shell posix

ErraticFox

4:21 AM

Hello, I'm a USB short and no way of obtaining one. Is there any way I could install Arch to a empty partition? I'm on Windows 10 and I have a Virtual Box with Arch set up if need be.

Michael Homer

5:33 AM

It does not appear to me that the answer shows much understanding of the topic at hand. "on the one hand it is distinct (but basically similar) to concatenation (x alongside y) which is a logical operation on strings and might result in xy, but on the other hand its done solely on binary streams" is just nonsense.

Using ∧ for bitwise and is a confusing choice, also.

And then "stream" is even linked to a definition showing that it's an inapplicable term to the use it's been put to. It has the structure of a good answer, but not really the content. I can imagine someone being disappointed by that.

Kusalananda

6:50 AM

@overexchange A Korn shell (ksh93) would set ${.sh.version} and possibly $KSH_VERSION (if it's recent enough). Also, the manual would maybe say.

Stephen Kitt

9:11 AM

@JohnDoea just to be clear, you’re saying you can’t see the difference between “0666 ∧ 0555 -> 0444” and “0666 - 0555” (which would be 0111)?

@JohnDoea I have accepted edits of yours in the past, which changed the wording of one of my answers. I (and others) rejected all your edits on the answer under discussion here for two reasons: you made (most of) them anonymously, and they were incorrect.

This edit suggestion should have been a comment.

In this one, you combined a valid editorial suggestion with an incorrect change (“and” → “add”).

In this one, you got the source of default permissions wrong, persisted in your trend of adding adverbs to reduce the scope of statements (“some newly created files”) which your own answer suffers from too), and got the effect of umask wrong (your first sentence).

Don’t use edits to request clarifications, that’s what comments are for.

If you’re going to suggest edits, be courageous enough to stand by them instead of suggesting them anonymously.

And I’m not going to waste more time on this but your summary answer contains quite a few mistakes.

sebasth

9:54 AM

I don't quite understand why unix.stackexchange.com/questions/480616/… was migrated to U&L. Is there something else U&L related other than the install happens to be on Ubuntu?

Kusalananda

10:12 AM

@sebasth No idea. I don't understand a word of that question (since I don't use Drupal or even know what it is).

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