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12:01 AM
@FaheemMitha Do you think I should tell people to post a question on the site even if I expect it would immediately be closed? We usually say users should search for relevant questions and make an effort to describe their problem thoroughly as part of asking. Sometimes people don't know how to do that at first. "Post that as a question, I will vote/flag to close it, but you can edit it and it may be reopened," seems like an odd thing to say.
Also, I believe most messages I've posted here in reply to users asking things have been when they had a question on the main site, though the numbers are skewed because most have probably been about one particular question. It is true that I have sometimes not said anything to encourage people to post their question on the main site, though I did encourage you to do so.
 
@EliahKagan That's a tough call. If it is immediately clear to you that the question isn't suitable for the main site, then I agree it doesn't make sense for you to suggest they post it there. Though I personally don't pay that much attention - I tend to default to suggesting they post there.
@EliahKagan In that truncating video questin case, answers were already widely available. Though I don't recall OpenShot being one of them. If you think it is reasonable, I suppose I could still add one to U&L. I don't recall any of the hits I got being on U&L. And searching for "truncating video file" on U&L directly doesn't bring up anything relevant.
 
12:45 AM
Hi, I am Gentoo developer and the question unix.stackexchange.com/questions/137651/… is neutral, and fits very well in the sx scheme. It should be reopened. It can even be answered precisely
Unfortunately I do not have enough point to do so.
 
 
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3:20 AM
So, brought a 32" monitor... thing is ridiculously big
I need to buy mouse, keyboard and chair to feel comfortable
Probably throw a video card in there too :/
 
Would this be on-topic for Unix.SE? The EE.SE folks are close-voting it.
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Q: Embedded Linux project - finding supported peripherals

paulluapWe're starting an embedded board project. We're exploring using embedded Linux and would like to select peripherals with working Linux drivers. My question - for different subsystems (ethernet, memory, storage, etc) how do I determine what chips are supported, or if I had a chip - the KSZ8463 f...

 
@NickAlexeev the most likely answer would be: search for the manufacturer support, then kernel. If you can't find anything, tough luck
 
3:57 AM
@EliahKagan I think it's fine to use chat to help someone ask a question—in fact, it's a good use of chat. It just shouldn't be used as a replacement for asking a question.
 
 
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5:49 AM
@FaheemMitha I didn't mean that you were at fault for not posting it, only that I often do suggest that people post questions, and secondarily that sometimes it's not at all obvious that they should post them. That has me thinking, though... I don't know if a Q&A, "What software can I use to easily truncate a video?" "OpenShot." would be all that helpful.
But I definitely do think it would be helpful to have a Q&A, "How do I truncate a video with OpenShot?" or even just "How do I truncate a video?" or "What steps can I take to truncate a video?" and a self-answer showing the specific sequence of steps, probably with screenshots, for doing so in OpenShot. Presumably there isn't something for that on the site, or you would've encountered mention of OpenShot when searching for how to truncate a video.
 
@EliahKagan There a suprisingly large number of Youtube videos which describe how to use OpenShot, but they aren't that good. I didn't see any answers on SE that said that, though.
And yes, obviously instructions on how to do so are desirable.
 
Yeah, YouTube videos can be good but they're hard to make well and not necessarily the best medium for learning how to do things. Though for teaching video editing, it's understandable that people make videos.
 
6:36 AM
@EliahKagan Agreed, Youtube videos are hard to make well. In this particular instance, I didn't find them so useful.
 
7:13 AM
It is just me, or do Wikipedia's criteria for notability not quite make sense? Which amount to whether they think the subject is adequately covered in the media. Which is very subjective, among other things.
Apparently I'm not the only one - here is WP itself on the subject: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
It's obviously very important to delete non-notable pages, of course. We all know the amount of space required to store text entries is very expensive.
 
I sense that your last message contains some sarcasm. :)
 
 
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9:02 AM
@EliahKagan Yes, it's sarcasm.
 
 
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10:51 AM
And this article puts the issues well, I think - web.archive.org/web/20110809142025/http://the506.com/ramblings/…
 
 
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1:16 PM
Have people seen this latest bit of crazy from the gang of lunatics that call themselves the Republican Party? wired.com/story/…
Though I suppose this would be more on-topic in Academia SE. Or even Politics.
 
 
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2:43 PM
We live in interesting times.
 
 
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5:47 PM
Has anyone here interrupted a yum download and tried to restart it?
I suspect that yum thinks that the repo data on the server is updated while yum is not running.
 
:41212638 Hold down shift while pressing Enter. But don't, just send and send another one.
Anyway, I haven't used an rom-based repo in many years, but it seems strange that it can't deal with it. I'd advise you to post a question on the main site with the exact error you're getting.
We have quite a few Red Hat world experts around.
 
6:05 PM
I'm actually using the Scientific Linux repo.
Do you think it's a yum 'feature' that when you terminate yum while it is downloading packages and then run it again, it starts to download all of the packages again without cleaning the cache? I find that behavior a bit weird.
 
@CoolCharac it'd seem reasonable to me; how does it know that you haven't deleted the partial downloads in the meantime?
 
@CoolCharac Oh, is that what happens? That is a little odd. Debian-based distros pick up where they left off I think.
@JeffSchaller It could easily check hashsums.
 
@Jeff /var/cache/yum/x86_64/7/sl/packages is full of RPMs until I type yum clean all at the terminal.
 
@CoolCharac what command are you running?
I see we're working our way into a Question :)
@αԋɱҽԃαмєяιcαη hello!
 
6:16 PM
@JeffSchaller Hi Jeff, i would like to ask about query related for mysql, are am allowed to ask here?
 
@Jeff A few hours ago [I wrote a question about this](https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/405173/how-to-continue-yum-download-while-not-deleting-existing-cache).
The command I wanted to run is `yum update --downloadonly; yum localinstall`.
Am I doing something wrong with the Markdown formatting?
 
@αԋɱҽԃαмєяιcαη if you're asking about SQL syntax or errors or other database issues; I think it could be on-topic here, but there is a whole stack exchange for DBA's -- dba.stackexchange.com; you check their on-topic list: dba.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic
@CoolCharac Thought commands worked with a single backtick echo hi
 
Yes, it doesn't work if you have multi-line messages. See:
`foo` [bar](http://example.com)
 
and links are square bracket
@terdon whoah - cool, I learned something else about Stack Exchange today
 
Which is why I told you to avoid the shift+enter trick for multiline messages in the first place ;)
@JeffSchaller heh
 
6:22 PM
You could get fake multi-line output by
typing
lots
of
lines
but you apparently have to wait 2-3 seconds between each one :)
and hope that no one gets their comments in-between
my only guess would be to add `--cacheonly` -- > Tells yum to run entirely from system cache - does not download or update any headers unless it has to to perform the
requested action.
 
So let me try this Markdown: my question, command: yum update --downloadonly; yum localinstall
 
Yay!
 
nice :) Now I want to do the downloading and installing in separate commands, so can I use --downloadonly with --cacheonly?
 
@CoolCharac I've never tried it; I was just guessing from the manpage. Try it and see where it starts downloading from!
 
I'll try that later, I hope. And if that doesn't work then we know that you shouldn't upgrade a linux system with a Huawei Exxx modem ;)
 
7:12 PM
Hi folks. Any advice on how to build mod_php71 with fpm enabled? Every time I run make the configure script located who knows where says "Configuring SAPI modules checking for FPM build... no" Can't override this even though the actual php71 has been build with fpm.
 
 
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9:41 PM
@ЗахарJoe Sounds like a question that should be asked on the site. Though you'll need to include more details. Is this Apache? If so, state version. Also distribution. And also whatever commands you type, and the exact result, quoted verbatim.
 
9:53 PM
Oh, and if you are referring to autoconf, the configure logs can also be useful. And the PHP version may also be relevant.
 

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