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Faheem Mitha

1:17 AM

Recommended reading: LWN: A referendum on GPL enforcement

This is an important issue. The comments in this are particularly interesting, including comments by Bradly Kuhn and Karen Sandler.

mikeserv

@Faheem Mitha

does anybody break anybody's GNUcaps?

Faheem Mitha

@mikeserv ??!!

mikeserv

its just a question...

Faheem Mitha

@mikeserv Feel free to star...

@mikeserv Which I don't understand...

mikeserv

stupid wordplay,,, GNU... knee...

Faheem Mitha

1:19 AM

@mikeserv Yes, I got that. But I missed the point.

mikeserv

gpl enforcement...

come on. have you never seen a mob movie?

Faheem Mitha

@mikeserv Yes, that's the topic of the post O linked to. What about it?

@mikeserv I try to avoid them. But probably.

mikeserv

probably NOT.

Faheem Mitha

The trouble with dealing with actual criminals is that it kind of takes the appeal out of watching films about them.

Looks like I can't star it. Would someone else, please? I think people should read that article. Thank you.

mikeserv

but they usually get shot in the movies.

Faheem Mitha

1:22 AM

Looks like I could pin it. I wonder if I should.

I think I will.

Please star. Thanks.

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Tony Zielinski

3:56 AM

anyone ever find a decent chat client that avoids using a browser?

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Faheem Mitha

8:06 AM

@TonyZielinski Define decent. And GUI or Console?

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Tony Zielinski

9:50 AM

@FaheemMitha Console ideal. Graphical linux desktop application acceptable, too. I'm looking at ChatExchange's API wrapper, but looks like I'll need to do a lot of work to get anything like a console client.

I'm more surprised no one seems to have done it, aside from some outdated looking IRC gateway that sounds like it might have been pretty cool at the time.

Faheem Mitha

@TonyZielinski irssi is a popular IRC client. Does it not work for you?

Tony Zielinski

Oh, sorry I wasn't clear. Looking for a chat client which will interface with stackexchange's chat.

Faheem Mitha

@TonyZielinski Oh, I see. Do such things even exist?

Tony Zielinski

It appears that they had, once upon a time, yes.

Faheem Mitha

@TonyZielinski I see.

Tony Zielinski

9:58 AM

it's not too important, but it sounded useful

Faheem Mitha

@TonyZielinski I guess it's useful if you don't have X running.

Or don't want to use a browser for some reason.

As I've mentioned here already, I'm having insane memory bloat problems with Chromium. Even with SE Chat.

Offloading SE Chat to the console might help to mitigate that. Though one would lose most of the features.

Since SE Chat is designed for use with a browser. And any console client would have to be able to deal with SE permission/auth system.

Tony Zielinski

Those are my exact sentiments as well. The ChatExchange API wrapper has an example script. Implements the API and oAuth and everything. It has a simple example readline style client that appears to be working without errors, actually, I just haven't figured it out quite yet.

Faheem Mitha

In a few days I've watched total memory usage go from slightly below 3GB to approximately 4.5GB. And that's all Chromium. I'm not running much else here. Nuts.

Tony Zielinski

yeah, the bloat is my concern as well

getting to the point i kill my browser every time i'm done looking at it

16GB ram, too!

Faheem Mitha

@TonyZielinski Yes, I've got 16GB RAM here as well. And in the recent past, Chromium has forced my machine to start swapping!

The problem is that I run this machine (though it is technically a desktop) 24/7. So the browser does not get restarted. I guess I'll have to start periodically shutting down my browser and restarting it.

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Tony Zielinski

11:14 AM

Well, it certainly works on stackoverflow chats, just not on SE, for some reason. Says the rooms are frozen. Probably a very good reason for that, like user moderation or something.

Faheem Mitha

11:52 AM

@TonyZielinski What works on SO chats? SE chats and SO chats use different servers, I think.

Firelord

12:23 PM

Hello! In the example: `if [[ $1 -gt 4 || $2 -gt 4 ]]` -- if any of the $1 or $2 matches the condition, then instructions under `if` would be executed. I'm interested in which of them happened to be true? Was it $1, $2 or both?

I'd be perfectly happy if I can come to know the specific keywords to be searched on web.

Wally

12:40 PM

Q: Festival tts command returning an error!

I have installed festival tts using the command sudo apt-get install festival* Now when I try running echo "Helllloooo! Is anyone home?" | festival --tts I get the output lexicon english_poslex not defined I'm running Linux Mint by the way.

Wally

1:04 PM

Why is my question downvoted without specifying a reason?

Faheem Mitha

@Wally A couple of things. (I didn't downvote your your question.) (a) You don't actually ask a question (b) Mention what you are trying to do / what your expected behavior is.

Also, usage like sudo apt-get install festival* is fairly unusual. Usually people just list the packages they want to install, not use wildcards.

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Wally

3:14 PM

Anybody here using nodejs?
I'm using github.com/nraboy/… script and it's downloading nodejs version 0.12.2. And I'm not sure if it latest version
nodejs.org/dist is confusing
Is v0.12.2 ready OK for production

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