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12:03 AM

@mikeserv I know there isn't but I've always needed it when using the proprietary drivers, I mean xorg.conf is still fine it's just not needed anymore.

@mikeserv exaclty, it's not quite as straightforward as blacklisting nouveau. Not sure but I would expect that to go straight to a broken system. You also probably need to disable the onboard card in the BIOS. Or I did with my Lenovo

mikeserv

Yeah - it's there. Its mostly a stub. I just don't care is all I'm saying. I gotta go get my kid. No dibs or anything is all I'm saying.

terdon

There's never dibs! Go get your kid :)

@FaheemMitha you've had some recent experience witht his right?

mikeserv

blacklisting nouveau should stop the ffreezes because then it will be intel. The rest... I don't give a ****

terdon

@mikeserv wow, that's nice

mikeserv

yeah. heart warming im sure.

slm

12:08 AM

@mikeserv who ever wants to answer is always welcome, no dibs

mikeserv

I understand that of course - sorry for the outburst, but the vacuum exploded.

Anyway, I just meant feel free to build on my comments - I only went there cause he asked, but I don't have time to flesh it out. Sorry. No offense meant.

terdon

Just go get your kid

@slm you're on a Lenovo aren't you?

slm

@terdon - yeah

T410

terdon

Hybrid graphics?

slm

Have access to others

how do you mean?

I believe it's an intel i915 or something

Braiam

12:18 AM

@slm Optimus stuff? Nvidia discrete + Intel crap?

slm

yeah no need for that, the intel H/W + drivers work flawlessly now

Braiam

yay! 5 things in the review queue

heh, funny comment

terdon

@slm my t4500 had both intel and nvidia, I had an option in the BIOS to choose one or the other or OS switching. I'm wondering if the annoying OP I will try to help also has that

Braiam

hey, new faces in the review queue

mikeserv

Ok, i'm out the door - but I don't think it's the card, I think it's nouveau. nouveau can't yet reclock Kepler+.

terdon

12:24 AM

@mikeserv yes, I think it's nouveau also but you need to install the proprietary before blacklisting nouveau and you might also need to disable switching

Braiam

12:35 AM

> Not an Answer flags go into /review/low-quality, just like Very Low Quality flags already do. (source)

slm

@Braiam Yes we've been getting a fair amount of new ppl here, glad to see it

Gilles

12:47 AM

@Braiam that's a proposed change, note. It's definitely the right thing.

Braiam

@Gilles yeah, I kinda found pointless after a while the NAA flag queue :/

terdon

@Gilles what's a good way of flagging for mod attention and asking to convert to a comment? You mean include the URL of the post it should be made a comment to?

Gilles

@terdon yes, please

Braiam

@terdon funny thing is that some mods don't like it

IMO is very explicit that way

Gilles

“on the question” is fine, but if it should be a comment on an answer, then the mod needs to enter a link to the answer in a box.

terdon

12:58 AM

What exactly does this mean? It sounds like the more flags a post has, the more reviews it will ened to get dealt with:

> Effective # of reviews required == ReviewsRequired + # of applicable flags (where ReviewsRequired is 2 on Stack Overflow, 1 everywhere else). So 1 VLQ or NAA flag means EffectiveReviewsRequired=3.

So flagging posts makes it harder to get rid of them?

Gilles

@terdon my eyes glazed over on the formula. It's too late for this shit.

terdon

@Gilles go, sleep :)

slm

When I see VLQ or NAA A's in the review queues I've been DV'ing them if they haven't been so, which enables the delete link, I've then been voting to delete them to get rid of them.

Gilles

@slm yeah, you can do that because you have 20k. Between 10k and 20k, all you could do is DV, and there's no point in DVing below -1.

Braiam

on AU there was always +20 of that shinny number and I couldn't do anything about it if a mod needed to deal with it at the end anyways

slm

1:10 AM

@terdon yes I've seen that option in many of the thinkpad models

terdon

@slm Yes, mine had it but I'm not sure about the OP here:

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Q: On 13.10 mint graphic periodically freezes after recent updates

laptop lenovo idea pad u430p, Linux Mint 16. Like I said in the title occasionally graphic freezes while all other systems continue to work normally (music plays, for example). Sometimes it unfreezes after minute or so, sometimes not and I had to hard reset the machine. lspci -v 00:00.0 Host ...

slm

@terdon - dmidecode might help shed light on that

terdon

@slm ah, good point. I'll see if he responds first though, the same user was being an ass when I tried to convince them to move their post here from AU so I'm not feeling too charitable.

slm

I left it as a comment for them as well

Yeah nothing makes you feel like helping someone like having them treat you like crap while you're attempting to assist

terdon

1:26 AM

yup

ad yay! I found a home for my at/cron answer :) Thanks for the edit too

slm

nothing major, just minor wordsmithing

I thought I recognized that A

support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-69927

there is a bios simulator there

terdon

@slm never mind, the OP just redeemed themselves:

Thank you for all the attention and efforts you brought to my question, but it seems that just upgrading kernel (I downloaded deb from ubuntu kernel deb fixed the problem). — Moonwalker 7 mins ago

And solved it so...

Braiam

@terdon arg! Those are the kind of Q's I don't like "uh, I updated and it suddendly went away", heck, you should have before then specially with hw stuff

terdon

@Braiam yeah, but those are exactly the kind of problem I've spent hours on and would have loved to have had access to a site like this

When there is a chance I can help, I try cause these are really annoying problems

Braiam

yeah, but again, you verify that you are using the latest (or in some cases, the previous of the latest) to discard those issues

I don't expect the same of a new user

terdon

1:33 AM

@Braiam meh, the latest has often broken things that worked for me, I'm not always a fan of the latest

But yeah, if something is broken, I will try upgrading things first and fixing later

Braiam

I still have a polkit bug to report...

terdon

hmm... fun :)

@slm aww, shucks! Thanks mate :)

Ramesh

Is it ok, if I get an answer from some other site and post it as an answer by giving the specific details related to the question along with the link or should I just give the link in the comment section?

Braiam

btw, you told me you are in a kinda testing right? when you use the numpad and have the numlock on, does polkit accept the numbers or it just behave like you don't have the numlock (forget about it if you use a lappy)

rsync can work over ssh, right?

slm

@Braiam yes

rsync -avz -e "ssh ..." ... ...

Braiam

1:40 AM

yeah, typing just rsync didn't give me a clue, so had to google it :/

slm

you typically don't need it if you're using rsync -avz user@host:/path/to/ .

If you want to pass switches to ssh is when I've used -e

Braiam

@slm well, I wasn't asking for me, but this seems to be a problem that can be solved with rsync just fine

slm

yes i was just catching up on your comment thread

Braiam

(silly OP overcomplicating stuff :P)

slm

eh you don't know what you don't know until you find out about it

Braiam

1:45 AM

the only thing that I know is that I know nothing :P

terdon

Wow, that hurt. I just deleted an answer of mine with 8 upvotes :(

@Ramesh do you mean another SE site?

In any case, yes, please include it, specifically for SE sites, see here

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Q: How do we feel about copying answers from other SE sites?

One of our users posted a comment on this question pointing out that the question had been asked (not cross-posted, different user) and answered on Ask Ubuntu. Since I had found the question intriguing and the answer over on AU was quite good, I took the liberty of copying the entire answer verba...

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Braiam

@terdon we are duplicating this askubuntu.com/q/436501/169736

terdon

@Braiam yeah, I saw. Radu started, then retracted his vote but by then it had started. It is not actually a dupe. But that's OK, as long as it stays there, the OP's misunderstanding is unlikely to be shared by many others.

I'd vote to leave it open but...

slm

@terdon which one?

terdon

2:08 AM

@slm unix.stackexchange.com/a/119604/22222

the "original" date/at one I'd written, since I moves almost all of it to the new one and it turned out I wasn't answering the question (the OP had said something else in the comments) so I figured I may as well.

terdon

2:29 AM

@slm @Braiam what am I missing in the machineA,B,C question? Why not just do scp t1_1980_*_200003_5.data on each machine and be done with it, why bother checking if the files are there or not?

Braiam

2:43 AM

@terdon beats me...

I just proposed rsync since it seemed to fit and with less hastle

strugee

4:31 AM

> I have neither the right nor the desire to gain rep from someone else's work

you're so not hooked enough on the rep thing. I totally want to gain rep from someone else's work. (not that I would do it of course - that would be unethical. but I totally want it.)

slm

5:18 AM

@terdon It's faster to check if the files are just there vs. copying and then recopying

terdon

@slm I have no idea what he's trying to do. If he wants to check, have him do ssh user@machine find /path

slm

my ssh ls -R . is basically that

terdon

The original version said he wanted to copy which is what was confusing me, if he already has the files, I don't understand why he didn't check in the first place

slm

copy but then find out from which machine a file came from later on

terdon

@slm yeah, I just feel that he's needlessly complicating things and am too sleepy to figure out what is actually going on :)

slm

5:20 AM

of course

terdon

Yeah, your answer is pretty much what I'd do. Hand't really read it since I wasn't clear on what he was doing

strugee

link to what we're talking about?

terdon

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Q: How to find out all the files in other machines using bash shell script?

I am trying to find out which files are in machineB and which files are in machineC. And I need to run my shell script on machineA to figure out which files are in machineB and which files are in machineC I have around 300 files distributed in machineB and machineC. Now I would like to find ou...

linux bash shell ssh

strugee

much obliged

@terdon vote to close as: "use a better directory layout for your backups"

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