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12:40 AM

@slm (1) -name "*.pyc" – deferred wildcards should be quoted. (2) Either -delete or -exec rm {} +, but not what you said.

slm

@G-Man - sorry I wrote that quickly when my kids arrived home from school. You're correct, the *.pyc should be quoted to find.

$ find . -name "*.pyc" -delete or find . -name "*.pyc" -exec rm {} \; are the 2 proper ways to do this

Patrick

going to nit that further. find -exec rm {} \;. I don't think there's any version of find which supports only one of -exec + or -delete, it's either both or none, so -delete would be the non-portable invocation, and -exec rm {} \; would be the portable one.

slm

fixed

that I do not know, I'm not up on which implementations are which, I assume you have GNU at this point.

Tyler Maginnis

1:07 AM

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Q: bash question about if and then

hey im writing this on my script it has other body parts but i got stock on this part only. if [[$# == $year $month $day ]] ; then cal $day $month $year fi when i run this it give me this msg [[3: command not found so what is the problem? is it syntax or actual command year=$(echo "$year...

bash

I'm not even going to touch this one with a 10" pole.

Why is everyone using "cal" instead of "date" or other more Unix-oriented epoch time-date schemes...

Braiam

I edited the question before this comment and now I'm afraid that I have new super powers

Gnouc

1:32 AM

@slm: Are you there?

slm

@Gnouc - yes

Gnouc

With perl:

% perl -MO=Terse,-exec -e '$a = 0; print !$a++'
OP (0xfe1f60) enter
COP (0xfe0340) nextstate
SVOP (0xfe03e8) const IV (0xfdc658) 0
SVOP (0xfe0468) gvsv GV (0xfdc688) *a
BINOP (0xfe03a0) sassign
COP (0xfe1fa8) nextstate
OP (0xfe2008) pushmark
SVOP (0xfe2148) gvsv GV (0xfdc688) *a
UNOP (0xfe20c8) postinc [1]
UNOP (0xfe2088) not
LISTOP (0xfe2040) print
LISTOP (0xfe02d0) leave [1]
-e syntax OK

slm

@Gilles - came back and said he had explained it

Gnouc

you can see postinc is executed before not

:)

slm

What's the Terse module, never used that one before

perldoc.perl.org/B/Terse.html

that's the one, right?

Gnouc

1:37 AM

yes, and it's not Terse module, it's B::Terse

slm

right

does awk have a similar feature?

that would shut everyone up

8-)

Gnouc

I'm finding it :)

Patrick

so, I got in touch with comcast support this past Saturday trying to solve a latency & packet loss issue. Well shortly after getting escalated to "level 2" I get disconnected, my modem reboots, and refuses to come back online, and after getting them (support) back, they can't figure out why.
Fast forward to today when they send out a field tech. The freakin support retards reconfigured my modem with their "non-payment" configuration.

Braiam

@Patrick ha! that's comcast for ya! (the Braiam's way to say that is sad that you are tied with Comcast :( )

Patrick

Unfortunately my only option if I want > 2mbit :-(

slm

1:48 AM

@Patrick dumb asses

I have time warner and never complain, only b/c I know comcast cares so much for their customers

Patrick

I used to have Qwest (when I lived in CO). Awesome service

slm

Yeah I've heard good things about them before too. TW is actually very good considering. They give you a modem and just leave you alone.

When I've had problems 2x's they come out and I usually dumb it down by connecting my laptop into the modem for them to debug the issue and it's always an issue on the telephone pole so they have to swap out a connector

I've had them since 1999

I get the 50MB down 2MB up service

whatever the hell that means

Patrick

Supposedly verizon is expanding out in this area. I'd be happy to give them a shot

Braiam

sells his soul for a flat fiber line

Patrick

mmmm, fiber

slm

1:57 AM

verizon would be awesome

for fiber

not for cell

Gnouc

@slm: I got it :))

dgawk> run
Restarting ...
Starting program:
[ 1:0x7f9fffd4ffe0] Op_rule : [in_rule = BEGIN] [source_file = test.awk]
[ 2:0x7f9fffd4ef80] Op_push_i : 0 [PERM|NUMCUR|NUMBER]
[ 2:0x7f9fffd4ef20] Op_store_var : a [do_reference = FALSE]
[ 3:0x7f9fffd4ef60] Op_push_lhs : a [do_reference = TRUE]
Stopping in BEGIN ...
Watchpoint 1: a
Old value: untyped variable
New value: 0
main() at `test.awk':3
3 !a++;
dgawk> s
[ 3:0x7f9fffd4efc0] Op_postincrement :

With gawk, we can use dgawk to debug

slm

s is a step in dgawk?

so it looks like you were right

it's untyped var to start and the new val is 0, then 1 interation through it's 0 now and 1

very nice work!

that's hugely handy to be able to debug awk like that.

If you wouldn't mind writing just the debugging up of both the perl and awk those would be awesome additions to the site.

Gnouc

@Gilles: See my updated answer.

slm

LMK if you need help

Gnouc

@slm: What is LMK?

slm

2:05 AM

sorry. Let Me Know

Braiam

what a weird flag

Gnouc

@slm: Sorry for my poor English. Where can I "writing just the debugging up of both the perl and awk those would be awesome additions to the site."? I have updated my answer.

slm

I would make up a Q, such as. I have this piece of awk and I want to see what's going on with how it's parsing the code as it's executed.

It might be more suited to SO or both sites depending on how you frame the Q's

The key info you've acquired will likely be useful to others that want to understand how a piece of awk/perl is executing. I've only gotten a basic understanding of awk b/c I get rather confused as to what awk is doing as it parses a line of text. Looking at it in the debugger makes if much easier to follow.

Putting that into a Q&A would be extremely useful for others grappling with awk

@Braiam which flag?

Braiam

@slm recent chat one, from gamedev

slm

the chat one?

I missed it

Gnouc

2:14 AM

@slm: I must back to my work now, I'm too busy with it, only starting for a month. Can you make the question as you said. I will get the relevant ASAP.

slm

I'm working now too

If I have a spare moment I'll try and make a Q and ping you on it

Gnouc

Oh, where do you live? I'm in Vietnam and it's 9h30 AM here

slm

2:29 AM

I live in New York state in US, it's 10:30PM here.

I'm generally working all the time. I'm learning about Ruby right now

Attempting to read a book and work out some code, but today has been another distracting day in here 8-)

Yesterday we were trying to quell everyone getting upset about creating a canonical Q&A about shell operators

Glennular

question about gconf setting: I want to manually set a variable that I found in the schema, how do i set it? (im looking at guake)

Braiam

2:47 AM

@Glennular gconftool-2 -s key?

Glennular

will that change the schema defualt value or my user setting? where do user settings get saved?

ah got it. thanks i was trying to find a magic settings file, the tool did it for me.

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