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CowperKettle

06:03

> Apart from its gripping melodrama and epitragic conclusion, the case of The State of
North Carolina v. John Hoover would not appear to commend any appreciable attention from
legal historians seeking to trace the potent interface of law and society

What is epitragic?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

10:52

@CowperKettle Epic plus tragic is my guess

CowperKettle

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Q: What does "epitragic" mean?

From a paper by Anthony Baker titled "“for the murder of his own female slave, a woman named Mira...” : Law, Slavery and Incoherence in Antebellum North Carolina": Apart from its gripping melodrama and epitragic conclusion, the case of The State of North Carolina v. John Hoover would not appe...

word-meaning

Seems like it

e1.ru/news/spool/news_id-66093826.html

Hailstones and snow again in my city.

Just a usual 19th of May

11 days to summer

Tomorrow is Eliza Doolitle Day

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

11:10

Was it always spelled like that?

Oh, nevermind

CowperKettle

11:24

nods

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I sometimes make epitragic spelling errors

There's no need to get all epitragic about this

Luyw

13:28

guys

should I say, watch at 1.5 speed or watch in 1.5 speed

?

1.5x

Man_From_India

13:42

I would say "watch at 1.5x speed"

CowperKettle

13:53

Another picture MAR won't be able to see. How epitragic!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

14:54

@Luyw I'd almost always go for the former, but the latter isn't necessarily wrong. (Non-native speaker)

@CowperKettle My eyes are waterfall

Or waterfalls, dunno.

Although if you picture it, it'd just be one waterfall

userr2684291

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Ever watched anything on speed?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I've watched things between speed, and through speed, but I'm not sure I was ever riding it.

userr2684291

If you watch Speed at 2x speed, are you really watching the sequel? No? Okay.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Depends on the movie

If it's Fast and Furious, yeah.

Speed itself wasn't very speedy.

I'm thinking people took their time in the 90s.

userr2684291

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ (Speed is a stimulant in my meaning.)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

15:00

I think this became so punny that I lost track

I was being too speedy

And you gotta admit, I'd pretty much be Keanu Reeves with 20 percent more facial hair.

Now, speed does make you make hormones, but it's not a stimulant

Unless you focus your attention only on Sandra Bullock

userr2684291

therecoveryvillage.com/speed-addiction

The need for speed is real for some.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

But then it could mean it IS a stimulant but how can it be without taking the form of matter . . . My caffeine levels are too high or too low right now

userr2684291

*caffeine

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Anyway, I remember I seriously wondered if it's Sandra Bullock or Bullocks. Serious

@userr2684291 Stop messing with my head

userr2684291

Haha.

web.archive.org/web/20100212210112/http://…

But yeah, if you're on speed, you've taken speed.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

15:09

@userr2684291 Who's Defin and why did they eat Lee?

Unless it's misspelled and they ate lye. Which'd be a bit, I dunno, they have problems.

userr2684291

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Because six was afraid of it?

CowperKettle

2019 05 17 Песня "Воины света" на сходе #МыЗаСквер #СкверуБыть Екатеринбург

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A video I recorded during one of the protest nights

Yekaterinburg has been protesting against the demolition of a park to build a new church.

They put up a fence around the park on monday, and people demolished it.

And now there's people every night there, some stay until dawn.

Singing songs and chanting.

userr2684291

Haha. Good luck.

CowperKettle

This particular song is quite famous. Titled "Voiny Sveta" (Warriors of Light)

It was sung by Ukrainian revolutionaries in 2014

Ляпис Трубецкой - Воины Света -

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Thus far, we managed to stop the construction of the church.

A referendum will be held.

I never thought this would be possible. Referendums in Russia are unheard-of.

Cardinal

17:12

Could you see Speed by speeading up from 90 MPH speed?

Cardinal

17:48

Anyways, is it wrong or improper to call a group girls guys? Like hello guys?

CowperKettle

18:42

Calling a group of girls "guys" might lead to epitragic consequences.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Cardinal It's OK, but gets pretty awkward if it's a male referring to a group consisting of only females.

"guy" is not gender-neutral, but "guys" is starting to be.

Pretty sure Snail The Great commented on this too.

May 3 '16 at 0:11, by snailboat

I don't think I've ever actually seen anyone object to guys when used that way.

@Card

userr2684291

@Cardinal Depends on the setting and your relationship with them.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 He runs a lab, so I'm guessing it's more of a professional environment but not too strictly formal

As their boss, it'd probably be okay to do it. Not on the first day though o.o

userr2684291

19:00

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I ran my lab the other day as well across the nearby field.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Best way to lose some weight. For 40 year olds.

userr2684291

@Cardinal You can't go wrong with hello, everyone.

Anonymous

I’m not so great, but I did say that. Times change, though, and with the focus on gender in the discourse some people are trying to train themselves out of using the now ubiquitous gender-neutral “hey guys”.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 If someone's name is Everyone everyone else would be offended

userr2684291

@snailboat Really? Ugh.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

19:06

@snailboat I noticed that too but it didn't seem so widespread

P.S. fluent-ish non-native speakers now use "guys" more AFAIK.

Even Europeans. Especially Europeans. Despite the whole gender discussion

userr2684291

I don't know... I use lads exclusively.

Anonymous

I think it’s really common at the moment. I don’t know how that might change over time. I still hear guys used frequently in all-female groups.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I asked a question, got three answers from good users, but none of those answers was good.

Maybe I'm asking too much.

@userr2684291 I do sometimes use it too but it reminds me of The Hobbit

BBL dinner

Anonymous

A lot of people use explicitly gendered terms like boys or lads frequently, yeah.

userr2684291

In online games I play it's lads from Brits, and boys from Americans, but sometimes they copy each other or something.

So I'll hear grim (meaning "bad") and cheers from Americans, etc.

Anonymous

19:18

Yeah, I find that kind of annoying, but meh. Doesn’t really matter.

userr2684291

@snailboat Because you're not male?

Anonymous

I use a gender neutral name in online games because I don’t want to be singled out as female in the first place.

Anonymous

But yeah, the tacit assumption that everyone is male in contexts like that has just a tiny bit of death-by-a-thousand-papercuts effect.

Anonymous

It’s a lot better than how competitive gamers treat women in general, though.

Anonymous

Honestly, it’s been good for training myself not to care at all about what people online say.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

19:22

That is probably the best lesson anyone can pass on to anyone else at this age

Of course there is a minimum of care required; otherwise, we'd just be trolls

Anonymous

You can turn chat off in those games, but I feel like it’s good mental training to expose yourself to the toxicity and train yourself not to be affected.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

But knowing when not to care anymore is really important

And not that hard once you've done it a couple of times

Anonymous

Hmm, I don’t think it’s been quite that easy for me, but everyone’s different.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

The more toxic the harder, probably

Or maybe I'm just having a master Oogway moment

Did I spell that right

Anonymous

Have you ever read Feynman’s What Do You Care What Other People Think?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

19:25

And I can't for the life of me find my glasses. @Userr are you sitting on my glasses. Get up.

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Anonymous

Userr, stop breaking @M.A.R.o_o’s glasses.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@snailboat Nope, but I'm planning to do a lot of free reading in . . . 46 days

Anonymous

It’s a quick read.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Available online?

Oh, nein

Anonymous

It’s on Audible.

userr2684291

19:28

@snailboat I'm sorry to hear that. But to be honest, I think it's better that they (younger guys, normally) don't know you're not one.

Anonymous

Yeah, same.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@snailboat I'd change my name to a bare M.A.R. but Mithrandir in the other chat seems to only be able to use these emojis by copying them from my username

I'm being merely altruistic ^_^

Dang, Damkerng used to make that face. Hope he's OK

Jim is . . . not the most reliable messenger.

Anonymous

You give away a lot of glasses. How magnanimous!

Anonymous

Glasseses. Glasseseses.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Right, back to my mission

userr2684291

19:31

Spectacular.

(I thought magnanimous was a pun of some sort, so...)

Lol. I think I have some sort of deviation in that regard.

Anonymous

On dysfluency, disfluency, and now interpolation, see Mark Liberman’s Dysfluency Considered Harmful.

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Anonymous

I joined to share that link.

userr2684291

Clickbait.

Clever suggestion.

Anonymous

MOST AMAZING TERMINOLOGICAL DISPUTE 2019?? PogChamp Like Comment Subscribe

Anonymous

Is that better?

Anonymous

19:39

The X Considered Harmful snowclone is a good one.

Anonymous

But see also X Considered Harmful Considered Harmful.

Anonymous

Not just the GOTO one: ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7816473

userr2684291

@snailboat Haha, snail, come on.

PogChamp? I'm embarrassed on your behalf.

Anonymous

Ooh, there are third order examples.

Anonymous

Thank you.

userr2684291

19:44

No worries.

Anonymous

I know quite well how to make people cringe. <o/

Anonymous

It’s a life skill.

userr2684291

(:

Yeah, I did not expect that.

Anonymous

Just doing my best to ratchet up the clickbait quotient round these parts.

userr2684291

19:59

Good stuff. But sometimes it does sound kinda dysfluent.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

It entirely depends on which way the PogChamp guy is looking at

Anonymous

PogChamp Considered Harmful

userr2684291

StatsLearning Lecture 1 - part1

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It annoyed me throughout the course, lol.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Thank God I can't see it then

I found my glasses, but they smell Croatian. You DID sit on them

Anonymous

In this case, you’re being spared from hearing rather than seeing.

userr2684291

20:05

@snailboat Do you see those as different from the examples on Language Log?

(Not to mention the other guy's accent.)

Cardinal

23:51

Thanks for continuing that diacussion and the rest. I really liked it. But since @userr2684291 asked, those girls were my neighbors. I saw them hanging out today and I passed saying hello guys.

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