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CowperKettle

05:23

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"ha" can be used in a sarcastic way like this: A: When did the first war happen? B: In 1950. A: Wrong. It happened in 1914. B: I know that. A: That's why you answered it correctly, ha? I thought of "huh" as a synonym to it, but its meaning doesn't indicate that. I found...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

08:11

@CowperKettle HAA

CowperKettle

10:18

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ How barbigerous of you!

Captain Bohemian

10:35

the luxury I desire now is a decent housing with access to a warm shower every day.

CowperKettle

History of the day:

WW2 - OverSimplified (Part 1)

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@CaptainBohemian Don't you have an access to shower?

Captain Bohemian

a place without fellows isn't an enjoyable place to live.

@CowperKettle no warm shower.

CowperKettle

> All I want is a room somewhere
Far away from the cold night air
With one enormous chair
Oh, wouldn't it be loverly?

Wouldn't it Be Loverly - Julie Andrews (My Fair Lady )

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Captain Bohemian

A place which may be good for me to live is my alma mater, because my previous lab is still there and I may find talkable people to talk to and there is a library where I can find technical books of my interest.

what only devoid there is housing for me there. Without a position there, you can't have budget for the housing.

though other places may also be OK, I haven't explored them yet, so don't know where else is a place suitable for me to take a shelter to seek positions.

the best thing is there are position-seeking positions for position seekeers.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

12:21

@CowperKettle I'm not the one asking for a synonym

@CowperKettle I hate enormous chairs

It's safe to assume they hate me too

CowperKettle

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ My cat loves them.

I recently vacated one large chair convertible into a bed, and placed it in another room.

And Nelson immediately adopted it as his HQ

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Well they also love keybbdbidbahbdisabfsdbikcbhaskjshvbdksbkajfdkjvbkjs

Doesn't make it automatically likeabbdsiaufzdbjcxuhbazjbhcdvjhbfvsikv

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Q: Why do obese people heal more slowly?

I recall an obese patient who was referred to a transplant clinic as his stitch wounds hadn't healed after a year. While there's a myriad of side effects caused by immunosuppressive medication after transplants, the usual healing process for patients that underwent the same procedure is around on...

human-biology health healing tissue-repair

I just asked a question because why not

CowperKettle

Haha

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Obesity increases one's inflammatory cytokines, perhaps

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I had two options, to either sprinkle links or not to sprinkle links. I chose the latter. Hopefully they won't get all skeptical about the claims

CowperKettle

It also hogs some nutrients, like vitamin D, lowering the concentration in the serum

nods

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

12:28

Here they would operate on someone who has more body fat than water, but I heard they don't transplant people with greater BMIs than around 30 usually

In the UK, I mean

For example.

@CowperKettle I don't think it works that way . . . If you consume more fat you're more likely to get more of the fat-soluble vitamins

And to be fair it's KFC that makes BMI soar, not celery

CowperKettle

13:28

A Russian joke

> - So, what do these test results say, Doc?
- You have AIDS, bubonic plague and cholera
- And what would be your advice?
- I'd recommend going on a pancake diet
- Why, Doc?
- Because that's the only thing that will pass under the door

Anonymous

14:35

@Araucaria Very interesting question alert! ell.stackexchange.com/q/193935/230

CowperKettle

15:15

The Happiness Industry

The Happiness Industry: How Government and Big Business Sold Us Well-Being is a 2015 book written by William Davies, in which the author proposes that the contemporary notions of happiness and well-being are being warped by the forces of numerous governmental and business institutions to make happiness as a concept to be something that promotes consumption. == Summary == William Davies begins his work by analyzing the philosophy of 19th century Utilitarian theorist Jeremy Bentham, who famously asserted that humanity can objectively determine ethical decisions by measuring the pleasure or pain that...

"if you have any set of 80 people, one of them will die in a car accident" -- if that's how they understand that statement, then I've got an extremely old joke about 1 in 3 children being Chinese that they're absolutely going to love. — Steve Jessop yesterday

I wonder what that joke is

Jasper

15:35

@CowperKettle Statistics is meaningless to me.

userr2684291

16:00

Dunno if they really don't get the "joke" or what. Anyway, I remember a similar "joke" my dad told me a long time ago about averages (it rhymes in my first language, which is why I memorized it): you don't have a car, your neighbor has two; on average, each of you has a car.

(It's normally understood as a joke in the context of the government talking about averages (wage, etc.).)

CowperKettle

16:40

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Q: File Explorer does not work in Windows 10 if started with default folder view (Quick Acces folder)

I backed up several Gb of data over the LAN from my laptop (Dell, Win10) to my PC. I went to drink tea and returned to see the copying process completed. The copying indicator showed 100% completion but for some reason it was impossible to get it shown on the screen. So I right-clicked "close", i...

windows-10 windows-explorer

Windows 10 just took an hour of my time, and some nerve cells of my brain.

SmokeDetector

17:41

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-latin answer (50): phrases like on my own, by myself, and alone by Saurabh on ell.SE

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

18:01

@CowperKettle For some reason when Windows does it it's the most annoying

I agree with Tasneem.. they should converse with a native speaker and ask. I would like to know, if they have moved on from believing that the past form of can is could, then what they think the meaning of could is, have you asked them ? And source of their perception ? — Spectra 4 hours ago

Um, OK, let me just take out my pocket native speaker and converse.

CowperKettle

I'm sorry that I bought this DELL laptop. I turned off all HDDs, and now I see that it is the laptop itself that makes constant HDD-like noises. There's some electric component in it that's quite noisy, especially under any intensive task.

I thought that DELL was a great company.

I will go to an actual retail outlet next time to touch and hear a laptop.

Although.. I doubt one could hear much at a retail outlet.

It'll remain a kind of "bying a cat in the bag"

As Russians say

Jasper

@CowperKettle Do you know what makes the noise exactly?

CowperKettle

Pig in a poke

The idioms pig in a poke and sell a pup (or buy a pup) refer to a confidence trick originating in the Late Middle Ages, when meat was scarce, but cats and dogs were not. The scheme entailed the sale of a suckling pig in a poke. The bag, sold unopened, would actually contain a cat or dog, which was substantially less valuable as a source of meat. The French idiom acheter (un) chat en poche (to buy a cat in a bag) refers to an actual sale of this nature, as do many European equivalents, while the English expression refers to the appearance of the trick. This taught many scammed people the phrase...

Ah! It's pig in a poke in English

@Jasper No - unfortunately, I'm not an electrician, and I'm quite dumb in these issues

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@snailboat Heh, people in countries like Iran (and Korea, apparently) get so fixated over their own ideas about ELLing a foreign language that you'd think they can back it up with years of linguistic knowledge or something. The variant I felt was more fueled by some form of envy I guess, because English tends to be like that very useful tool that they didn't purchase.

CowperKettle

Some "coil"?

Jasper

18:08

@CowperKettle I see. I think I hear those noises too sometimes, but it does not seem to be a fan noise...

CowperKettle

MAR, can you edit the Persian Wikipedia, or is it closed to all Iranians?

Jasper

Maybe you can get HP laptop next time.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

And it's hard for a schoolmate to accept they're wrong unless they're challenged by the authority; in this case being English teachers with horrid pronunciation and more horrid knowledge of Murphy Grammar Syntax

CowperKettle

In Russia, the Govt. has made some moves to restrict Wikipedia a couple of times, but there arose such a noise that they backed down both times.

Jasper

Take a look at the HP Essential or HP Notebook series.

CowperKettle

18:09

@Jasper Thank you! In about 5 years' time, when this laptop gets old )))))

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CowperKettle Where you got the idea that Wikipedia is blocked is beyond me dude. They're desperate but they're not that desperate

Jasper

I am still thinking of getting a Dell, but I think your latest remarks mean I should go for HP instead.

CowperKettle

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ But it contains some bad material. Nude ladies. Articles about Salman Rushdie and stuff.

Maybe even a nude Salman Rushdie!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Extrapolating from previous observations makes sense but people don't read Wikipedia here anyway. Social media and the Next Door Neighbor News is way more trustworthy

CowperKettle

The very thought brings horror to me. A nude Salman Rushdie.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

18:11

@CowperKettle Ugh I don't wanna see that page

Jinx

@CowperKettle Sure, it's big

Basically I think they messed up word filter censorship or something, or they definitely would have

The new VPN-smashing algorithms seem to be mostly either no block or block all

And they probably have enough humanity left to realize blocking the whole Wikipedia is such a D-word move

Duck move. Quack

CowperKettle

In Russia, there are rumours that the Government is installing a Chinese web-censorship system on the sly, to be enabled later.

My DELL started to turn off the external monitor now and then.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Is Twitter blocked in Russia?

I guess not

CowperKettle

Maybe I'll try just to get my money bock for this DELL, if it gets worse.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ No

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Is YouTube blocked in Russia? Nope

CowperKettle

Nope

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

18:16

Is Facebook blocked in Russia? Probably still nope

That's 3 – 0 for Iran. Noobs!

CowperKettle

Iran wins.

People are too un-religious in Russia.

I can't see a religious revolution happening anytime soon.

Especially in the Urals, where people love to hate the established church.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Meh, those seem periodic

CowperKettle

In Siberia, people used to speak of church with respect when I lived there.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

There was this author who tried to explain/hypothesize/I dunno, I didn't read their book the fact that a need for religion or really a specific set of beliefs is evolutionary

And I've yet to see someone without a religion. Wait, what's a religion?

Probably subjective but not all religions need to have prayers and a solid base of thirteen and half commandments

CowperKettle

THere's a joke making rounds today. "The Russian state TV had to film Putin's traditional ice-bathing several times. He could not submerge, because the water either supported his weight and he just went across the bathing hole in the ice, or the water spread apart"

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

18:21

If it walks like duck and talks like duck . . . Trump's avid supporters, to me, seem to have a religion of their own

CowperKettle

There's this traditional ice-bathing that has grown popular lately, on January 20th

Thousands of people do it.

It's a Christian thing.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

And with time passing they've already established they fit neither the Christian nor conservative categories adequately

@CowperKettle Teehee

CowperKettle

It's an innuendo on events in the Bible and in the New .. what do they call it?

Testament

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Eh, I never got to fit what I know about Christianity from my Muslim background to the English labels

Never really saw the need.

BBL need to do some studying

CowperKettle

Bye!

There was a joke this year - "take your friend to the ice bathing, in case you drown and need to be recognized by the police"

Anonymous

18:27

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ It strikes me as very odd to presuppose a conclusion, then ask how that conclusion might be reached.

Anonymous

You're essentially presupposing a conclusion, then asking how that conclusion might be reached. Back up and take a more neutral approach. There are two different analyses here: ① could is a form of can, or ② could is not a form of can. What are the implications of each analysis, and what data can we find that supports one conclusion or the other? Once you know that, you can move on to decide what the answer is – not before. — snailboat ♦ 2 mins ago

Anonymous

I do love the question, though.

CowperKettle

> Rocking improves sleep and memory, studies in mice and people show

Good night

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Wow!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

19:31

@snailboat I obviously make the best pies. Please teach me.

@snailboat It's because how annoying it is for them to be opposed by someone who they're confident can't 'English' as well as them.

Obviously impossible to decide if that's a correct assessment, but I've also seen how close-minded people can be about stuff like this

Admittance to fault on either side kinda feels like admitting you don't have that super special tool in your toolbox.

@CowperKettle I can definitely relate. I had trouble sleeping until recently because of enduring 20 days of dumb hospital routines

Think I mentioned them before. A blood test at 4 effing 30 and then you wouldn't have found a chance to sleep.

There was also the overzealousness of the allograft.

Word of the day: allograft

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Anonymous

19:58

I think ELL is a really nice resource for language learners, but it tends to be a pretty bad resource for pronunciation questions. I wonder if there's any way we can attract more experts on that topic.

Anonymous

I don't have the mental energy to deal with the problem, though I do wish people wouldn't simply make up phonetic analyses out of whole cloth.

userr2684291

20:35

@snailboat I for one welcome that approach. Their conclusion is undoubtedly correct – it's on you, however, to provide the fitting definitions of the relevant terms, and prove that's the case.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ All-OG raft.

Anonymous

21:25

@userr2684291 I agree with their conclusion. I don't think it's quite so undoubted*, though. (Undoubted sounds a bit funnier than undoubtedly, don't you think?) Both analyses have reasons behind them, and both are in use by linguists today.

Anonymous

It's obvious that they were historically forms of the same word. But is that true today? In a synchronic analysis, you start with the language as it is, and don't focus on how the language came to be that way.

Anonymous

It's not clear-cut like it is with most words, because the distribution of the forms is quite a bit different from that of most present–past pairs. Whatever it means to be present and past forms, it's not quite the same.

userr2684291

21:57

@snailboat I apologize for not making it clearer – my entire reply was said in jest. Conclusion-first approach they're attempting to impose requires adjusting the definitions and data, which is just wrong. I understand and agree with what you're saying, though (and the same applies to the notorious subjunctive classification in part, for instance, a result of the very same diachronic analysis).

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

22:16

@userr2684291 og

@snailboat What if they're wearing a shirt that says IPA?

@userr2684291 Hey I just proved ghosts exist with an EMF detector.

There was a disturbance when I sneezed, which can only mean my ghost was suddenly disturbed

Our hearts stop for 0.00(some zeroes)001 seconds when we sneeze, that must be the reason

userr2684291

ghosts M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ.

(I'm jk.)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Hey I don't have a pimple besides my eye

@userr2684291 These days when I see something online that I probably should be offended by I follow the same process: Yawn, glance back, squint, and shrug it off

Nonsense does still make me angry though

userr2684291

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ 1 + 1 = 3.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

THOUSAND YEARS DUNGEON

Wait, actually I'm not the one who proved the other result so they should be offended. In their grave

userr2684291

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Do you know what Japanese for "What's up, dawg?" is?

Konichihuahua.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

22:28

We're tiny specs on something that's a tiny spec in group of some things that are collectively a tiny spec in the existence that we actually have been to able to discover and might not be the whole story

@userr2684291 I like that sentence better with a da before "Japanese"

@userr2684291 The Konichi part is the "what's up" part and "huahua" is "punk"?

userr2684291

Haha.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

As I was saying, if I allow what ignorant and entitled position another tiny spec has chosen for themselves without following a logical procedure make me unhappy no one would gain anything

Us tiny specs can do that butterfly thing in physics and cause some change but other than that

@userr2684291 Oh it's one of them mini-wolf dogs

If a dog is going to be small I prefer if it was one of the fur balls not a pocket wolf

Disclaimer: I'm probably a cat person

userr2684291

Eh, I don't know.

It has to be able to eat your homework at least.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

That should be enough nonsensing for one night. I need to recharge my eyes to be able to strain them tomorrow. Night

@userr2684291 And a squeaky toy

userr2684291

G'night.

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