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10:28
Greenings all. Can you tell me the difference between1. She can go to the cinema with me.
2. She can go with me to the cinema.
Thanks.
Which is preferred?
Greetings, sorry.
@ColleenV Thank you!
 
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16:16
@CowperKettle Yep, sure is ...
 
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17:21
I translated a Ukrainian ballad (17th century) but now I think that the translation is quite odd in places.
I would scrap some parts outright, and rewrite.
I first heard the guitar version, and like it very much despite the poor sound quality
But the first version, recorded in 1957 is beautiful too (classic rendition, as it was in the 17 century)
18:03
I saw this question, and I was wondering about something similar. Can you say "Shakespeare has written many plays."? I was taught that you can't use the present perfect with dead people (i.e., where they're the doer of the action) the same way you can't say "This has happened 5 days ago." "5 days ago" stands in contrast to "has", which is in the present. Similarly, "Shakespeare" contrasts with "has"; Shakespeare can't have anything.
And you can find the explanation in the comment section here. "There's a codicil to the Perfect construction to the effect that one can't use the present Perfect with active verbs and subject NPs referring to dead people." Cool. So I asked two of my American friends, and they said it's okay to say "Shakespeare has written many plays."
18:15
These guys are from Washington and Florida. I later asked another guy from Australia, and he said the same. StoneyB writes in his Canonical Post about the Perfect here that in "John has finished the report yesterday, has is present-tense; yesterday clashes with this just as badly as in John is yesterday." – and I was pretty convinced by the wording "clashes badly" that I thought native speakers also saw it as such.
So, is it possible that there's some kinda shift in this, that English-speaking people are somehow focusing more on the written than the has part?
Maybe I'm just really lucky to've come across such speakers, who, by the way, didn't just say "ya, sounds gud", but they stood their ground when I asked them if they're positive. They did admit the past simple sounds better, but they said you can freely use the perfect there.
Anyway, just an observation I wanted to share. Have a nice day, everyone.
Actually, no, it's not just an observation. The person who gave an answer to the question I linked at the beginning says (about a dead person): "The actress started her career in a mere age of 4 and since then she has ruled millions. She has given us many brilliant and memorable performances throughout her career." So honestly I'm a bit confused.
Anonymous
19:16
@userr2684291 Erm, I guess you could.
Anonymous
I wouldn't, though.
Anonymous
Like, it's not ungrammatical, but it's just very subtly inappropriate.
19:30
I found the answer.
@V.V. Woah.
The answer?
@snailplane If it's not ungrammatical, why is the wording John Lawler employs can't, i.e., one can't use the present perfect with active verbs and subject NPs referring to dead people?. Okay I'm thinking this has can simply be thought of as not quite literal, and we can think of Shakespeare as still kind of being with us in a sense...? Haha. Just like you can say "Shakespeare is a great writer." – is that it?
Anonymous
@userr2684291 Yeah, I was trying to think of a way to relate it to the 'timeless' use of the present.
Anonymous
Like, a change in conceptualization might make it appropriate, but I was struggling to come up with an example context where that made sense.
Anonymous
So I stopped short of typing that.
Anonymous
Like, if you said "Shakespeare has written many plays" in casual conversation, I might just go with it and say something like "Yes, he has. I'm not sure if he's going to be writing many more, but I've enjoyed his work to date".
Anonymous
19:38
I dunno.
Anonymous
This is just the feeling I get about it when I read those words.
Anonymous
So I'm giving you another data point :-)
Mhm. Thank you, thank you.
20:00
@V.V. The first one reads more smoothy, but the other is OK, too. They're both certainly grammatical. I'd be interested in the actual answer myself if you'd be willing to share it here, though. (:
@snailplane, privet. Don't see you much here. How are your pets?
Anonymous
Hello! :-) I make sure to check in at least once a day to see what people are saying, although I haven't been typing too much.
Anonymous
My pet snail dug a tunnel and fell asleep.
Anonymous
I don't have any hamsters currently. I'll have hamsters whenever the Humane Society gets new ones.
Tell it, spring is coming soon
Anonymous
20:08
A rat has taken up residence in my garage. It's scared of me so I don't see it much.
Rats are dangerous, I believe.
Rats are dangerous, I believe.
Sorry, I loved those fluffy things
Anonymous
Well, I love domestic rats. They're adorable and very intelligent. I don't really want wild rats to take up residence in my garage, but rats are very social, so I suppose if there's one, there are probably others . . .
Anonymous
There's no food for them to eat.
Anonymous
There's water, though, and it's very cold outside.
It will be -22ºC tomorrow.
Anonymous
20:14
Um. So, hey. Remember back when I said it was very cold outside? I might have been a bit silly back then :-)
Anonymous
It's 8°C out here. Low of 1°C tonight.
What's the temperature?
Plus?
Anonymous
Rats like it best around 15 to 25°C, I think.
Yeah, Freezing cold, lol
Anonymous
Yeah, plus . . . :-)
20:16
Are you OK?
Anonymous
Um. Yep! I'm fine.
Anonymous
Did I say something just now to give you the impression that I wasn't?
No, I saw you more often earlier, and because it's cold
Anonymous
Oh. Well, it gets cold here every year. Not cold by V.V. standards, but cold by snailplane standards.
Anonymous
I'm sure it's positively toasty by V.V. standards :-)
20:21
I wish I had such weather. Enjoy.
Anonymous
It's raining just a bit. I rather like the rain, though.
@V.V. Minus 22? The swelter must have abated finally.
You didn't have any snow, did you?
Perhaps you have never had it.
Anonymous
We basically never have snow here. If it snows, it usually melts before it reaches the ground. Once every few years we might have a tiny bit of frost, probably not for more than one night in the entire year.
Anonymous
Where I grew up we had snow and blizzards.
Anonymous
20:25
The coldest day on record while I lived in Illinois was about -32°C.
Ah, so at least you have seen it and can imagine.
Anonymous
But that kind of cold was very rare. It does snow every year around Chicago, but it doesn't usually get quite that cold.
Anonymous
But yes, I've seen snow. I'm not really good around cold, though.
Anonymous
I like it when it's warm :-)
Anonymous
If Damkerng were here, he would say he likes it even warmer than me.
20:27
This winter is quite mild.
I have to go. It's almost midnight. Have a nice chat, people.
Anonymous
See you around, V.V.!
See you.
(:
See ya.

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