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@Alex89 Can I ask why you're asking after women in particular?
Hi! Good morning everyone!
Hi @ColleenV
@yubraj Howdy
I'm fine and you
@yubraj Stellar! :)
Ok...outstanding or exciting just like star
01:12
@yubraj Yes, "outstanding" would be the best synonym the way I used it.
Ok...I got it.
I have been teaching in an English school for 5 days. But I often can't say what I want to say while teaching in classroom because I'm a bit poor in spoken English.
I'm looking for School or Classroom Languages (sentences, words)in details....How to command, how to control the students in classroom etc.....What would you say?
@DamkerngT. Hi
01:28
@yubraj Try googling for classroom English for teachers, or for TEFL, or for TESOL.
I think it could be eye-opening if you browse through videos in the search results.
For example, I just tried exactly that and this video was among the top results:
and this:
01:55
Ok...Thanks a lot @DamkerngT.
02:14
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A: How to use "respective" instead of "respectively"?

KhanThe use of the adjective in the sentence as follows is grammatical: Connectors A and B should be attached to the respective ends of the cable. Alternatively, you can also say "..........to their own ends of the cable".

Hmm... to their own ends?
I don't think it's ungrammatical, but it sounds somewhat awkward to my ear.
Interestingly, exactly the same example sentence came up a few days ago! ell.stackexchange.com/questions/123030/…Damkerng T. 24 secs ago
Not that the old question got a really good answer, though.
(Both are at -1)
02:41
@CowperKettle applauds
 
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03:57
> the rope they tied it with was frayed soft by weather
> The crib's iron strap hinges were rusted stiff
> That window of opportunity appears to be rusted shut
(from COCA)
What is the function of soft, stiff, and shut?
I.e, what is the function of an adjective after the past participle of an intransitive verb?
Not an object complement, right? Because there's no object. But not a subject complement either, because AFAIK that's reserved for linking verbs.
And surely not an adverb, because it neither modifies the verb directly nor has the usual form of an adverb.
Actually I think it doesn't have to be a participle.
> He grew up bilingual.
> My ankle has swollen red.
(Correction: has swollen --> swelled)
Common expressions of the sort includes run wild, run free, do sth free (of cost), etc. Some dictionaries do consider them adverbs. I'm not sure if these are exactly the same as the original examples from COCA.
04:46
@Færd I answered questions of this type
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A: "waterway ... flowed sombre" - Should Joseph Conrad have used an adverb, not an adjective?

CowperKettleI've just been reading on "depictive constructions" and it seems to be the term used by some lingusts to describe such constructions. The waterway flowed sombre. The construction depicts the state of the waterway, not the manner of its flowing. Compare: John shouted at them angrily....

> Mary ate tired. (depictive over the subject: Mary was tired)
John ate the meat raw (depictive over the object: the meat was raw)
Johh pounded the metal flat. (resultative)
We drank the teapon empty. (resultative: the teapot has been emptied)
John fried the fish dry. (resultative or depictive: either the fish was fried to a dry condition, or John was dry while frying the fish)
A secondary predicate is a (mostly adjectival) predicative expression that conveys information about the subject or the object but is not the main predicate of the clause. This structure may be analysed in many different ways. These may be resultative, as in (1) and (2) or descriptive (also called "depictive") as in (3). (1) She painted the town red (2) The film left me cold (3) Susan walked around naked. (Depictive over the subject, or "subject-oriented depictive") (4) John ate the meat raw. (Depictive over the object, or "object-oriented depictive") (5) All men are created equal. == Alt...
@DamkerngT. okay, if she comes to Bangkok I will drop you a note (0:
She travels round the world all the time
And charges small money for her concerts
05:01
@CowperKettle Thanks. That was pretty awesome.
05:12
@ColleenV, I hope you'll like that.
http://www.madameulalie.org/vfus/The_coming_of_spring.html
Morning all.
@Færd You're welcome
Morn all
> People know what they do; frequently they know why they do what they do; but what they don’t know is what what they do does.
05:35
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07:37
> A man in a pharmacy: Please give me a tablet.
- What tablet?
- A white tablet.
- But we're a pharmacy, we have a lot of white tablets!
- That's beautiful! Just give one.
08:08
@CowperKettle Wow, this happens more often than you think
I've helped my parents in our pharmacy since I was six.
I've run into a lot of similar cases.
Once an old guy came in, asked for an Expectorant codeine syrup, and when dad gave it to him, opened the cap and drank the whole bottle. Then he said "This didn't work. Give me something else"
Shrug Dunno if I've told you that before
@ColleenV I can hardly explain this. I just asked, and that's all. Perhaps it's because I lack women's attention in real life. I am 28 years old, and I live with my parents, which have very bad relationship between them, though they both love me.
Doesn't anybody wish to answer this question: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/122986/the-use-of-could-you
Some of these comments would make good answers. — Jasper 12 hours ago
I think that's the reason it wasn't answered already.
People don't like easy rep.
M.A.R., if you want, you may answer, and I will be glad to give the bounty to you
08:25
Meh
I wonder what if I want to say something to a specific user in private and not in comments. I understand that there's chat and I'm already using it. But what if the user isn't in the chat for now. At our site we do not have the chat, but we have personal letters for this purpose.
@Alex89 There is no way to send a personal message to another user
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Q: Any way to send a personal message to another user?

a_m0dThere has been quite a few times that I wished I could send a message to another user on SO - not ask a question for everyone to see, but just a short message informing them of something or requesting them to do something. Are there any plans to allow this to happen in the future? Related: Ho...

08:40
Yes, I meant personal messages. It's a pity they aren't present here.
The reasons for not implementing it are mentioned in the link I gave up there.
I also want to ask what is the role of moderators here. If all users can edit any questions, then what do moderators do? Maybe they make reviews or some advanced edits?.....
@Alex89 Moderators handle exceptional cases
They suspend users that actively do harm on the site.
They also help edits and all, but that's not their main role
They also handle flags.
and how many moderators are there at English Language Learners
Flags are what normal users like us raise
08:51
Oh, thanks. Five is my favorite number :-)
 
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10:09
@DamkerngT. "... very loved by my parents" would make it an adjective :)
@Alex89 It's my favorite number too!
Hi @Arau!
@M.A.R. My favorite number is 2684291. :>
Calling 2684291
BTW, 2684291 reminds me of 528491.
@M.A.R. Hi Mar!
10:20
Ah.
@Araucaria Is ''what you ate'' in ''I told him what you ate'' an NP or a relative clause?
@M.A.R. Are they mutually exclusive?
There's this confusing thing in CGEL's chapter two that seems to imply that if 'what' sounds like the head of an NP, then that thing is an NP, not a relative clause. And it confused me.
So yeah, it seems they need to be mutually exclusive
@M.A.R. Hm...
@M.A.R. Do "fused relatives" ring any bells?
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Q: fused relatives versus interrogatives

ListeneverWould you differentiate which are relatives and which are interrogatives? (And I want to know the sub-category (sub-name) of each below, if they are.) “You can keep it,” said Harry, laughing at how pleased Ron was. (Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone) Disgusted that the Slytherins had...

Ding!
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Q: Is the midnight in English 12 a. m., or 12 p. m., or both?

Alex89I wonder how you denote the midnight in case when you use the system with a. m. and p. m. Would the midnight be 12 a. m., or 12 p. m., or both?

O.O
Midnight
10:34
Oh, is there a mistake?.. Maybe the periods are not needed there. I don't know exactly. You can edit my question freely.
@Alex89 It's 12 a.m.
@Alex89 Don't put a space between a. and m., though.
@Alex89 This depends on the style guide.
OK. But I wonder what your wrist watch says at midnight. I understand that exactly at midnight it says 12:00:00 a.m. But after a second? Will it be 00:00:01 a.m.?
@Alex89 No. It will still be 12 a.m.
OK, in a minute. 12:01 a.m.?
@Alex89 Yes, 12.01 a.m.
10:40
12.01. Oh, maybe you use a period.
@Alex89 In my country we use the 24-hour format, so it would be 00:01, without the a.m./p.m. b.s. :>
What country are you from?
@Alex89 Croatia.
I am from Moldova but I speak Russian.
I know.
Nice to meet you, though.
10:43
Nice to meet you too.
Jul 14 '16 at 18:34, by Færd
Heh, this chat room is brimming with Iranians.
Now it's brimming with Russian-speaking guyses.
Don't get any ideas.
@M.A.R. I prefer the term abuzz.
:>
bzzzzz
Sincerely I don't like my Russian much. It is hard. English is simpler.
@Alex89 You want honestly there, in lieu of sincerely.
10:55
@Araucaria Ah, thanks! I just thought that there was some discrepancies between when it'd be an adjective and when it'd be a verb, and we might need to re-categorize it somehow.
@Dam \o
o/
How could I know if this is offensive or not? -- Hmm... I wonder what the two characters are saying.
Honestly. Thanks for correcting me.)
@DamkerngT. It's too fast for me to read, but one of the words that I saw could have something to do with pornography. @Alex89 Could you tell us?
@DamkerngT. The mod said everything is fine
@userr2684291 There was Hentai talk there, so probably
11:02
I suppose it could be part of the joke and I'm just taking words out of context...
Ugh, what's wrong with this guy?
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Q: Is it possible to switch the word 'there' with object of preposition?

Arief.anI am a newbie at this forum. Recently I found a sentence exactly as below: On the bottom of the MetroCard are three arrows and little white letters that say "Insert this way/This side facing you." This sentence is correct, but I do not understand why. I thought an object of preposition ca...

They keep editing in salutations.
I'm not getting in a rollback war. Someone else comment.
I am not sure what are salutations. Can you explain?
@Alex89 Look it up.
@Alex89 Things like 'Hi', 'thanks', 'regards -- Name' etc.
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Q: Should 'Hi', 'thanks', taglines, and salutations be removed from posts?

GEOCHETI edit a lot of posts every day. I often run across posts with 'Hi' and 'Thanks' on the top and the bottom of the post respectively. I also run across things like: --User Should these items be removed during the editing of the post by an editor?

OK, I did edit that question, but I think I didn't touch the salutation nor the tags.
I saw your comment. I will try to make minimum edits. Just spelling.
11:08
@Alex89 Nah, try to make edits as comprehensive as possible
Just don't change what the author said much, but that usually doesn't happen anyway
My father asks if there is a site about money at Stack Exchange. He loves paper money (bank notes).
@M.A.R. Okay, then! -- @userr2684291 Thanks for giving it a try! :D
Not every question is on-topic on every Stack Exchange site of course
M.A.R. Thanks a lot.
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Q: When can we put an adverb before "be verb"?

TomI often hear people say: A: She is beautiful B: She certainly is. but we say "They are definitely suited for each other." & don't say "They definitely are suited..." because it sounds wrong. so, When can we put an adverb before "be verb"?

We really can't?
11:14
Not sure if we really can't, though it's true that are definitely ... is the more usual position.
(actually, I think it's okay)
> It is an initiative to gather information and lessons learned from these accidents, because they definitely have been repeated.
There's sometimes not much more sense to why things are common other than them flowing well in the mouth.
they definitely have been is not that hard to find.
> They generally are not suited to use as homesites because of the hazard of flooding. Wetness, moderately slow permeability, moderate shrink-swell potential, and low strength for roads and streets are the main limitations.
They generally are not suited is not that hard to find either.
I think definitely is rarer, but only because of definitely itself.
Mhm
definitely is a bad choice in relatively formal writing, IMO.
'rarer' prolly has one of the most r contents among words in language.
A good word to hate
11:20
:D
60% r. FFS.
Gotta go. Be back later! o/
\o
@DamkerngT. BTW, could you comment and tell that guy not to use salutations before going?
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Q: Is it possible to switch the word 'there' with object of preposition?

Arief.anI am a newbie at this forum. Recently I found a sentence exactly as below: On the bottom of the MetroCard are three arrows and little white letters that say "Insert this way/This side facing you." This sentence is correct, but I do not understand why. I thought an object of preposition ca...

This guy
Will see to it when I'm back. o/
16 mins ago, by M.A.R.
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Q: Should 'Hi', 'thanks', taglines, and salutations be removed from posts?

GEOCHETI edit a lot of posts every day. I often run across posts with 'Hi' and 'Thanks' on the top and the bottom of the post respectively. I also run across things like: --User Should these items be removed during the editing of the post by an editor?

This link
Sure.
11:33
@V.V. Thanks! I enjoyed that quite a bit :) IT has often seemed to me a remarkable thing, considering the effect which the season has on us, that no poet has ever conceived the idea of dealing in verse with the subject of Spring.
@ColleenV One of my favorite poems sort of deals with the subject of Spring.
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@userr2684291 The article that VV linked for me was by P. G. Wodehouse who writes satire/comedy. It's difficult reading, but very worth it. Spring is the season of hope. Directly the calendar informs us that it is once more in our midst, we shed our winter flannels and don our flimsy gents’ suitings and stride out upon the Avenue, hoping that we shall not contract double pneumonia.
@userr2684291 I can see why it is your favorite - it's nice!
@ColleenV Ah, that makes sense, haha.
The title of the article is THE COMING OF SPRING
Original Thoughts on a Wholly Original Theme
11:51
@M.A.R. It's an interrogative clause :)
@Araucaria which is like an NP?
Or a clause? O.O
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A: mysql and php - Retrieving data from database based on user logged in

Kihika Samenter code hereenter code here`session_start(); `enter code here`$username=""; `enter code here`if($_SESSION['username']==true){ `enter code here` $username=$_SESSION['username']; `enter code here`$conn=mysql_connect('localhost','user','passwd') `enter code here`or ...

@Araucaria Is that because tell doesn't license an NP object?
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A: Are there organisms with less than 1000 neurons?

Oliver HoustonI believe there are types of water snail with 8 distinct neurons in a ganglia, there's a bit of information here: molluscs.at. The cell bodies of the neurons are massive, visible under a standard dissecting microscope, so they were popular among early electrophysiologists. I guess there are proba...

12:14
@V.V. You enquired about the part in bold in In Central Park swarms of happy children are digging their heels into the young grass and not doing a thing to it. – well, it means they're not doing any damage to the grass.
Well, I don't know how to put it in bold, so whatever.
Oh, I know.
I can't italicize the period then.
@M.A.R. Ah, it's already been handled. :-)
@M.A.R. It's not an NP for grammarians who use the word NP to mean a phrase headed by a noun, no. (But some generative grammarians call any phrase that occurs where a noun could occur an NP - so those grammarians would probably call it an NP - but that's because they're confusing their forms and functions!)
@DamkerngT. Yay for good mods
@Araucaria Ahh. dons
@userr2684291 Well, it can do (I told him a story, for example)
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Q: Yeti with a microphone

zx8754 We started interviewing a Yeti with a microphone. How do we ensure that we mean the picture on the right and not on the left? And how would we describe this one? Edit, from the comments: unlikely Yeti would hold the mic, so it is clear who is holding the mic. Replace Yeti with a ...

This has got to be the most bizarre question on the site, lol! Good luck finding a duplicate for this :) — AleksandrH yesterday
Dee.
12:35
Hehe!
@Araucaria Then what's the determining factor?
@userr2684291 But not when used with this meaning. The sentence means something like "I told him the answer to the question: What did you eat?"
@M.A.R. Woa! That post by JL is quite interesting, but virtually none of Listenever's examples are either interrogative or fused relative clauses!!! :(
Stupid confusing terminology !!flip
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@Araucaria If the sentence read: I told him what you said, it would be ambiguous, innit?
12:46
(1) is an exclamative clause. (2) is a declarative content clause. (3) is an exclamative clause. (4) is an interrogative. (5) is interrogative. (6) is interrogative. (7a) is exclamative. (7b) is a declarative content clause.
It's slowly starting to make sense.
@userr2684291 I think so - that seems right to me. But I'd need to think about it long and hard :-)
12:57
@M.A.R. In fact I don't think how occurs as a relative word in English at all! We don't have "how" relative clauses in English :( Grrrr ...
AAAaaaaaaarrrrrggghhhhhh ....
> Why on earth? This is art!
No, this is porn!
So you would jerk off to children pictures?
No, never! But you would!
Why on earth? This is art! (et cetera)
I substituted "Why the ****" with "Why on earth?"
There was some exhibition of nude photos in Russia and there was some controversy about it. I believe last autumn
Ahh
Thanks for the transcript!
And it's revealed why having a Russian translator here is beneficial
. . . other than being fed verses
13:26
(I'd personally use 'It was' rather than 'It's', but the message is clear.)
13:39
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Q: I saw him at / in the station a few days ago

Shannak I saw him at / in the station a few days ago I saw a giraffe at / in the zoo yesterday. What should we use with saw (see)?

Prepositions are always tricky. (But why would it have anything to do with see?!)
In the station makes me think of something like this:
Hehe!
Anonymous
14:04
The train stations here don't have interiors.
Anonymous
You can't go inside them, so you can't see someone in them.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I rather like it's, though.
Anonymous
If you change it, you change the meaning. And I'd also suggest changing need to needed in that case.
Anonymous
But as I understand the original, it's more of a general truth based on the writer's experience. It's not a retelling of their experience as a past sequence of events.
Anonymous
If that makes sense.
Anonymous
14:08
Because see, this way they're stating it as a general idea that is applicable to other people as well.
Anonymous
So it's appropriate aspectually to use the simple present.
Anonymous
My explanations this week may need to come with a caveat that I am heavily medicated and my brain is even less functional than usual, but I'll be trying my best :-)
Word of the day: iatrogenic
@snailplane I don't understand that sentence; specifically, the role of until.
Did they mean to say as long as we need...?
Anonymous
14:43
It seems funny at first, but when you need to do something useful with it, it doesn't seem funny anymore.
@snailplane Thanks.
15:04
@snailplane I do wish you to feel better
@M.A.R. Now I see why you are interested in chemistry!
A great story! I hope that old man did not feel worse for downing a whole bottle
I'm translating and reading the news at the same time
The region's court has banned the demonstration on the 26 of March.. too bad
Hello to everybody, and my hat off to snailplane. I heard about you, and I'm so glad to see you in the chat. I was very impressed with your profile. I feel sorry that you are medicated, I wish you much health.
Good evening, Alex!
@CowperKettle good evening. Nice to see you.
Nice to see you too!
I understand you are from Yekaterinburg? I have never been there. It is a little bit too far for me, and I sometimes feel sick at the trips. Nevertheless, I was in Moscow in 2004 and in St Petersburg in 2005.
15:16
@Alex89 And you are from Moldova?
Yes, I'm in Yekaterinburg. I was once in St Pete, but only a half-a-day trip
Yes, I am from Chisinau.
15:30
@snailplane Makes sense. Thanks!
Take care. Get a lot of rest.
Nice to see you, Damkerng T.
Hello, @Alex89!
Hello) good evening.
Good evening!
I think I've missed a lot of stuff today. :D
I noticed that in the evening there are few questions at this site. I am sad about that(( I am an owl, so I am active in the evenings.
15:36
@Alex89 Oh, why do they make you feel sad?
Only three or four questions are already too many to handle for me these days. LOL
I wonder what are the duplicates. Who decides if a question is a duplicate?... And what do they do with the dups here, do they close them
@Alex89 Duplicates are questions that are basically roughly identical to some old questions and have already answered.
Most of the time, it's all of us voting to close the new ones as duplicates. The site requires 5 votes to close a question.
So, it's kind of a consensus.
Oh, so nice.
If some users don't agree with the votes, they can leave a comment stating their thoughts.
Yep! And if someone noticed a "closed as duplicate" question too late, i.e., after it's been closed. They can vote to reopen too!
I think these require minimum rep points, but I can't remember the figures.
Shouldn't be too high. Maybe somewhere around a few thousands.
Or lower.
Ah, it's 3000 points.
At our site ("Big question"), a moderator has the privilege to edit any question badly and then, after his edit, he can choose to close it as a duplicate. And we have no rollbacks, and regular users cannot edit questions except their owns (and even that is very restricted).
15:45
Different sites have different strategies. :-)
yep
Our site is an absolute monarchy, kind of Saudi Arabia. it does have some good sides, good moments and so on. But I decided to go here. I feel more friendly here.
You're welcome here! :D
Thanks)
It's rare for to choose to join any websites. I settled on this site nevertheless.
One appealing feature of this site is it's open as in open!
I also participate at a geographic site now. But it's totally different. No questions, no answers. There are a lot of tests here, and duels, and battles, and tournirs (is there the word "tournir" in English?)
15:49
@Alex89 Probably not. Perhaps you mean tournaments?
Tournaments. Yes, they. Thanks.)
Sure! :D
From that site I have learned all the deserts, all big lakes, a lot of new islands (new for me, not for researchers) and so on.
That's great! Now I know who I can ask when I can't figure out where a place is. :P
)) maybe I am not so clever
15:55
No need to be humble. :)
There are three types of geographic duels there. The first: political geography (capitals, flags, coats of arms, and knowledge of the map). The second type: physical geography—that includes a lot of stuff such as islands, lakes, deserts, seas, rivers, volcanoes, mountaion chains. The third type is a duel about cities and towns, and it's very hard. Oh, I forgot to say that our site has an English version: geo.koltyrin.ru/eng_encyclopaedia.php
mountaion chains > mountain chains. Sorry.
Is it a single-player (i.e., human vs. computer) or a player-vs-player duel?
16:10
Tests are always human vs computer. But duels are always player vs player. In each duel there are 50 questions. In case of a correct answer you gain 2 points; in case of a wrong one you lose 1 point; you can also pass the question, which yields 0 points. The player with more points at the end wins. In one specific case, when both players had gained 100 pionts, the winner is the player who got it faster (spent less time).
@CowperKettle I don't think that man felt anything
16:36
@Alex89 Ahh... we are in the gamification era indeed!
Sawasdee kha.
Privet and sawasdee khrap!
I'm gonna confuse these greetings one day. I'm still too young to do so.
Are you OK?
Aloha Khraps
Wait, that meant 'hello', right?
16:40
I think so!
We're okay! :D
What language was that in, even?
Hawaii-Thai, I think. :D
Hmm... Hawaiian is better.
Hawaii is a funny name.
@DamkerngT. Hawaiiiiiiian
LOL
16:42
@M.A.R. Huh, why?
@userr2684291 Because it's funny. I can't explain when I'm laughing
Because prolly the arrangement of vowels sounds weird
So Hawaiiiiian
At 7th grade we learned simple dialogues. "Hi, how are you?' — "Fine. How are you?". So simple) But when I said my "How are you?", the teacher noticed it sounded like Hawaii.
@Alex89 Dang, now I can't unnotice how much it looks like Hawaii
@Alex89 That's what I tried to emulate with "Huh, why?", heh.
I'm not sure what Hawaiian accents sound like. Probably not very different from other American accents.
16:48
Btw, @userr2684291, thanks for comments to Wodehouse. I did it at last.
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Q: Meaning of English words.

Ľubomír MasarovičWhy do (British) English words have so many meanings? Why? What is reason? Some words (verbs, nouns etc.) have more than three meanings and some have more than ten meanings. What on earth. Does it exist only in English? How do English speakers know what someone means? Why some words are the verb,...

I wonder if it isn't the same in his first language?
Ha,ha. Where is he from?
Hmm...
Oh, Slovakia!
@DamkerngT. Why? Why so many questions? Do they always ask so many questions in British English? Is it the only question with so many questions? Why? Why some questions are short, but others are longer? Do they expect an answer to all of those questions?
16:53
Pop quiz: What word has the most definitions?
Unknowable
Most definitions where? Which edition?
According to the oed
What counts as a definition?
Entry with a number.
Either get or have, I guess.
16:54
@skullpetrol Oh. I don't have access to OED so your quiz blows
Be.
Take a guess
Nope, not "be" @V.V.
No googling.
Go
a
to
in
16:56
Nah.
Nope. Nope. Nope.
No
Yes
What about Dam's versions?
Want the answer?
It's set.
16:57
antidisestablishmentarianism
Bingo @userr2684291
I googled it.
Oh!
Bah! I should've added set to my guess list. :)
16:58
:-D
@skullpetrol That's not even a word
I wouldn't think of that one!
I'm not convinced it's not ''antidisestablishmentarianism''. I need further proof.
What is it? @M.A.R.
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