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@EngFan Some of us use humor as our workaround when we're not sure about what we're saying. :-)
@EngFan That's only to hide their deception
@DamkerngT. So I am my friend 😊
Their true silverish colors
Would you stop using creepy smile smileys please
Sure 😊
See... Cortana tends to say that everything is a banana when she can't tell what it is. (^_^)
Wow... my favorite channel is full of crab dishes today!
18:02
@DamkerngT. I read that ''crap dishes''
@DamkerngT. : U watch movies??
It's actually a news channel. (^_^)
But yes, I love movies, too!
Hmm... looks delicious!
@DamkerngT. Oh
So is that what you eat
@DamkerngT. It has too many legs!
They
They have too many legs.
18:05
@EngFan Sometimes!
I don't eat things with too many legs
Teehee Thai sounds funny
@M.A.R. Well, that's what crabs have!
@M.A.R. Hehe!
Don't beat me up for this, but Thai seems like when a Persian native speaker wants to imitate Chinese
@DamkerngT.: Really!!
@M.A.R. LOL
18:06
Expensive?
Oily
Not really.
A bit oily, yes. Only this dish.
Hypothesis: All Thai people are vegetarian except when there's seafood
So yeah, according to the hypothesis of M.A.R.--Hoffmann, you guys live a healthier life than us
18:09
@DamkerngT.: What do u do, I mean are u assigned to do a particular job?
I noticed that he works really nicely with his hands
For something veggies, you might like this one. It's from a couple days ago.
And I conclude, from empirical evidence, that Iranians chefs are lazier than Thai chefs. At least in the shows, with medium humidity, in room temperature.
Oh, and in 100kPa
@EngFan I escaped from my lab, so maybe hacking to cover up my traces is what I do. :P
18:11
@M.A.R. What would an Iranian chef be like in their cooking show?
@M.A.R. : I guess you are form Iran
You don't need to guess.
I have that info available in my profile
@DamkerngT. Working with a lot of tools very slowly
While the other host of the show advertises the dish they used
Hmm I didn't see your profile:-)
@M.A.R. Haha!
Good night everyone, it was so nice talking to you guys .
18:24
Good night, and sleep tight!
18:49
Hey guys
What's the difference between "won" and "win"?
@SinNombreSinApellido One is past tense form, the other the plain form of the verb
I mean respectively.
I won a match yesterday
I will win that match tomorrow
@M.A.R. Thank you!!
Don't mention it
Anonymous
@snailplane I don't have enough rep here to vote to reopen, but your defense is compelling. There is a strong case for reopening this question. — Lawrence 5 hours ago
Anonymous
Should we reopen this (very old) question?
19:06
@snailplane I cast a vote. Will you not overrun the votes of the mere mortals and reopen?
Anonymous
I can, but I want to see what the community thinks.
Hmm... I think I hear /hərˈmaɪ.əni/.
Maybe because that /ɪ/ is pretty long, and it's not very stable.
@snailplane The OP has already moved on anyway, I guess. :D
(And of course, that /ɪ/ is pretty different from AmE /ɪ/!)
BTW, @Snail you have made a lot of accounts and I thought maybe you would like to help SmokeDetector in spam fighting
They've built in auto-flagging, and it's pretty damn good
So you don't need to spend much time and still be flagging and fighting spam
The best part is that the core users are multi-mods around the SE network, so they take their self-appointed job seriously
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OK, where were we?
Oh, Hermewn
Anonymous
19:25
@M.A.R. I know all about SmokeDetector already. What I don't know about is this "you have made a lot of accounts" thing. Have I? :-)
Anonymous
Oh, do you mean how I have accounts on lots of SE sites?
I mean Mhm
mHM
Anonymous
Since they all share a login and session, I think of them as one account, and sometimes I forget they're displayed as though they're separate accounts.
Gosh. I hate Caps Lock
Anonymous
So it took me a moment to figure out what you meant.
19:28
It's a new mechanism
Well, you probably didn't know of autoflagging?
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I don't see an /ɪ/ in your transcription. I only see /aɪ/, which is a single phoneme.
Stupid chat. Stop replacing my messages
@snailplane I suppose we can think of it as two phonemes anyway, acoustically.
Anonymous
Well, phonemes don't exist acoustically.
Anonymous
Those are phones.
19:30
Hmm... maybe you're right.
Anonymous
BrE /aɪ/ doesn't exactly contain the sound of /ɪ/, in any case.
Anonymous
/ɪ/ is slightly backer than the end of /aɪ/.
Anonymous
Phonemically, /aɪ/ is a single sound and cannot be split.
Let me rephrase. There is the same acoustic event in /aɪ/ and /ɪ/ in both AmE and BrE. :-)
Anonymous
Not exactly, though.
Anonymous
19:31
/aɪ/ doesn't end up quite where /ɪ/ is.
Anonymous
So in a very real sense, /aɪ/ does not contain /ɪ/.
Hmm... now that probably makes it even more interesting.
But in any case, actual acoustic realizations of the same vowel aren't always the same, even within the same speaker.
Anonymous
Right, there's a range of realizations.
Anonymous
> The diphthong [aɪ], as in high, buy, moves toward a high front vowel, but in most forms of English, it does not go much beyond a mid-front vowel. Say a word such as buy, making it end with the vowel [ɛ] as in bed (as if you were saying [baɛ]).
Anonymous
> A diphthong of this kind probably has a smaller change in quality than occurs in your normal pronunciation (unless you are one of the speakers from Texas or elsewhere in the South and Southwest who make such words as by, die into long monophthongs—[baː, daː]).
Anonymous
19:41
> Then say buy, deliberately making it end with the vowel [ɪ] as in bid. This vowel is usually slightly higher than the ending of this diphthong for many speakers of English. Finally, say buy with the vowel [i] as in heed at the end. This is a much larger change in quality than normally occurs in this word. But some speakers of Scottish English and Canadian English have a diphthong of this kind in words such as sight, which is different from the diphthong that they have in side.
Anonymous
(A Course in Phonetics, 6th ed. p.92)
Anonymous
They also write:
Anonymous
> In English, the first part of the diphthong is usually more prominent than the last. In fact, the last part is often so brief and transitory that it is difficult to determine its exact quality. Furthermore, the diphthongs often do not begin and end with any of the sounds that occur in simple vowels.
LOL that's just too funny
This is gonna be the most official masquerade ever
@snailplane IMHO, I think they seem to mix phonemes, which are supposed to be ideal, up with realizations.
It's as if they'd argue that /p/ in /sp/ is not the same as other /p/s.
Even though they are the same from one viewpoint (and they are different from another viewpoint).
I just had a quick check on a speech example of a randomly chosen speaker.
It's obvious (I think, at least it's so to me) that the reason that the [ɪ] in /aɪ/ has a higher F2 than that of a monothong /ɪ/ most of the time is because most of her /aɪ/ are typically fall on a stressed syllable (which means that her jaw would open longer and wider).
(Hmm... maybe 'wider and longer' is easier to read.)
So when it's approaching the [ɪ] part of /ai/ it's probably more like an /i/ than an /ɪ/, I think.
Anonymous
20:10
@DamkerngT. The passages I quoted, by the way, don't mention anything about phonemes.
Anonymous
They're about phonetics.
Anonymous
Ladefoged was one of the most prominent phoneticians in the history of linguistics, so I don't think he would make the mistake you suggest.
I see. He talks only about [], not //.
Anonymous
I'm not saying everything he wrote was perfect, but if anyone knew the difference between phonemes and phonetics, it was Peter Ladefoged :-) He was extraordinarily precise in his descriptions.
20:18
That looks way too much like IR spectra
I think this part is the funnest part in the sample I found. :-)
Ragged mountains
Because it has is, designing, this, tiny, little, and in.
Close enough to C-C, C=C, C-H, N-H and O-H
LOL
F2 in designing is very high.
About as high as that of hugh.
But F2 in tiny is not has high. It's only about as high as that of is.
20:22
F2 is a nice jet.
20:40
How do you spell the word that's pronounced the same as "fi" in "hi-fi"? It's an exclamation. I remember it from old books, and it's usually a reaction to something detestable. It doesn't appear to be "fi" or "phi".
Hmm... is it pfft?
Or maybe φφφφ
@JoePinsonault Oh!
@JoePinsonault Ah, yes, right on the money.
20:44
I wonder if Fee, Fi, Fo, Fum is related to this sound, now!
That's Kung fu talk
@M.A.R. (^_^)
Proof #33 that Dam is a robot: His face expression never changes
20:48
LOL
Man, if it's not obvious, I fell in love with the comic
Word of the day: Candor
5
How do you express exactly how drunk someone is, formally (in the US)? Do you express it in "per mille" as we do here? I suspect that in the UK you'd say "I'm N pints deep" or something, haha.
Anonymous
@user2684291 BAC
Thanks.
There's a table on Wikipedia, and a BAC corresponds to a percentage (in the US, Canada and 'Straylia). Also, it's by volume (of blood).
21:21
What's the exact phrasing of the idiom where once you've been (working) in a place for a very long time, you can be considered a piece of its furniture?
Not exactly an idiom, it's just an expression.
Never mind, I've found it. It's "be(come) part of the furniture".
> He doesn't have a chance, Fred.
> Doesn't have a chance, Fred.
Do you find these structure natural in colloquial language?
As alternatives to "Fred doesn't have a chance.", I mean.
Anonymous
21:38
@Færd Right dislocation is only felicitous in certain contexts, and you haven't given any context.
Anonymous
Since in this case you're dislocating a proper name, without context to make sense of it, Fred looks like a vocative.
Anonymous
You can fix that by adding that: He doesn't have a chance, that Fred.
Anonymous
I think that sort of colloquial right dislocation is somewhat more characteristic of BrE than AmE.
For some reason the second example would sound OK to me if it said "Doesn't stand a chance, little Freddie boy." or something very similar to that. I feel like I've heard it before, but maybe I've read the sentence one too many times now.
"But it's so enigmatic, don't you find?" Is this an okay sentence?
Anonymous
21:54
Also, the second example seems like left-edge deletion following right dislocation, so it doesn't seem substantially different from the first to me.
@Færd I thought that your two example sentences were of someone talking to fred, not talking about fred. In context it might make sense though
@user2684291 sounds fine to me. Without knowing the context, I might say "don't you think?" could sound better
but find is good too
@JoePinsonault The sentence before that one is "That we can't surmise their exact reasoning doesn't really indicate that neural networks are doing anything 'novel', per se."
So "don't you find" isn't referring to anything specific; it should mean simply "don't you think".
hmm, I kind of like "find". Makes it sound like the reader is on a journey of discovery. NNs are very enigmatic!
:>
Thank you for your insight.
I wish more books about math/science/etc sounded excited about the subject, instead of dryly telling you the facts
22:14
@JoePinsonault I guess. Have you read Greene's The Fabric of the Cosmos?
@user2684291 no but I have read The elegant universe. Is it good?
22:29
@JoePinsonault I think it's an enjoyable book, but I wouldn't read it if I previously read The Elegant Universe. I just meant it as an example of a book that is actually engaging and deals with the stuff you mentioned above. Also, now that strings are disentangled in fiction, I don't know if it's worth reading.
@user2684291 yeah, definitely. He's a good writer. Anyone that can incorporate homer simpson into a discussion of physics gets my vote
23:00
youtu.be/PZzRab0xOyw?t=2m44s What does he say after "Stretcher! Medic!"? I think it's "Reverend!", but the lyrics I found say "Corpsman!" which I just don't hear.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/corpsman

I don't hear it either, but it fits with "medic"
@JoePinsonault Well, I actually thought it's pronounced as "corpse-man", haha, especially given the context.
23:15
@user2684291 yeah I think you're right. That's a good pun
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