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yubraj

02:54

Good morning everyone!

Is there some best memorization techniques? Share me ok ....

SinNombre SinApellido

03:10

Hi

Anybody could help me?

@yubraj Can you help me?

EngFan

03:38

@SinNombreSinApellido : Hi

@yubraj : Hello

yubraj

@SinNombreSinApellido Hi, ok what's the problem?

@EngFan Hi

CowperKettle

04:23

> Joy is blown by wind far away,
No hope brings month February rather.
But shall come warming heart Loving Day
Just upon first two weeks baker's dozen.

a guy's poem from allpoetry.com

Færd

05:49

CELTA seems like an interesting thing to pursue.

I'd have to go abroad to get it though; they ceased to offer it here a few years ago. I don't know why.

Now for a while I'm gonna be thinking about whether, where, and when to go and get it.

Probably Austria or Germany, since I'm learning German too.

CowperKettle

06:15

Works of the day: trimean

CowperKettle

06:27

Word of the day: midhinge

Word of the day cube root

V.V.

Too many...

CowperKettle

Word of the day: mean trimmed 50%

Good morning, V.V.

V.V.

Morn.

"Do you want, best-beloved, to think ’scruciatingly imperially?"

I "cracked" that yesterday.

It took me some time.

CowperKettle

06:46

Keep up the good work!

I'm trying to understand statistics

Basic statistics thus far

Anonymous

07:01

@CowperKettle Perhaps these are words of the kwartier?

CowperKettle

07:30

@snailplane kwartier?

Anonymous

kwartier

Noun: kwartier n ‎(plural kwartieren, diminutive kwartiertje n)

A quarter of an hour, i.e. 15 minutes
The quarter(s) at (a) person(s)'s disposal to live in
(archaic) A neighborhood, defined part of a town or city

CowperKettle

07:44

ah!

kvartira is Russian for flat; apartment

V.V.

09:09

!!translate/квартал

Ellbot

bg: квартал
en: neighborhood

Zhengquan Bai

09:52

hi

CowperKettle

10:18

Ottawan & Russian Red Army Choir - Crazy Music

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Zhengquan Bai

10:28

I'd like to learn Japanese through English.

M.A.R.

11:38

@ZhengquanBai Isn't Chinese closer to Japanese than English?

Damkerng T.

11:48

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Q: Why "safe navigation operator" instead of "safe navigational operator"?

There is a terminology "safe navigation operator" in programming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_navigation_operator But "navigation" is a noun, why an adjective "navigational" is not used? I think this question is on border of a programming question and an English question. If you guys thi...

grammar

More curiously, the OP didn't think that it should've been safely navigational operator!

"What kinds of people are they?" is "incorrect grammatically". Hmm... let's try this example: A: "There are only two kinds of people." B: "What kinds of people are they?" -- Sounds fine to me. — Damkerng T. 15 secs ago

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. DamkənG™ -- Destroying your argument since 1888

Damkerng T.

Heh!

M.A.R.

That brand name looks very badass.

You should copyright it before I steal it

Damkerng T.

You already TMed it for me. :D

M.A.R.

Just noticed Neeson, Murray and Oldman don't have an Oscar.

WTH

Damkerng T.

12:02

I guess Oscars has its own taste.

I'm not sure about their voting process.

M.A.R.

I think less than 6000 people vote

And the winner gets the Oscar

In some awards it's different though

Some awards use preferential voting

Others use plurality voting

Visual effects and prolly one or two others use point system

Jude

Greetings!

Damkerng T.

Hi!

Jude

Do you know a chat application which is similar to StackExchange Chat? I want to ping and mark important messages. Skype doesn't have these 2 features.

Damkerng T.

Hmm... each chat has its own features, I suppose. SE chat is unique.

Jude

12:15

yeah. I search for it. But negative :(

Damkerng T.

In other words, you were asking the wrong question. :)

M.A.R.

I remember I used to watch a cartoon with my little brother called Secret Saturdays. The main villain there used to run a TV show and he always begun the show with ''Greetings and bienvenue'' That's what I always think of when I see ''greetings''

Word of the day: bienvenue

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V.V.

12:39

Hi

M.A.R.

Low

V.V.

Are you learning French?

M.A.R.

I wish

V.V.

Nice

M.A.R.

No no, ''I wish'' means ''I don't but I wish I could''

V.V.

12:43

Anyway, one word you know

M.A.R.

I also know ''Ratatouille''

V.V.

You are a polyglot

Zhengquan Bai

13:04

Yeah, that's true. I only feel that I can be exposed and immersed in the two languages. That's good.

And my English level is more than enough to support other language acquisition.

I can read or watch Japanese learning materials presented in English with ease.

CowperKettle

14:34

@snailplane - I wonder if the International Women's Day is celebrated or mentioned in any way in the US

Stack Exchange

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Q: Why do ELL's users ignore bounties?

Can't say I'm surprised by the overwhelming lack of response on the grammar question which currently has a bounty of 50 points. Only @Andrew posted an answer and was repaid by an anonymous downvote. Why is the present simple tense used for an event that is in the future? I get that it's not a "...

discussion canonical-posts bounty

Damkerng T.

14:53

@StackExchange Because it's too broad? Because it's very difficult to come up with a set of rules that cover all the cases? Because?

Because it's too easy to copy rules from a book (and yet mislead the learners that these are all there is at the same time)?

user2684291

I don't see why anyone would care about the bounty.

Damkerng T.

Because those subtle points given in books are probably not (always) real?

user2684291

How can our rules be real if our words aren't real?

Damkerng T.

@user2684291 Ah, because the bounty offers too few points? :P

user2684291

No, I don't see what I'm supposed to do with points.

Damkerng T.

14:56

I know, but I was trying to look at it from the point of view of the community as a whole.

Because some of us are still of vacation? :P

user2684291

@DamkerngT. I'm not sure what you mean.

Damkerng T.

@user2684291 I meant I was trying to come up with all possible explanations why.

But my comment about the rep points was made half-jokingly.

user2684291

Yeah, I see that, but I don't see how that relates to bounties at all. Why would anyone actually need the reputation points, apart from the first few hundred points you need to be able to vote and comment?

Damkerng T.

My personal feeling is it's too broad. We could try to limit the scope in some way, but then we would be left with an incomplete answer that might look like a comprehensive one.

@user2684291 Because it usually works on other stacks, I think.

user2684291

I'm not talking about that specific question.

Damkerng T.

15:00

Understood!

user2684291

Lemme check it out.

Damkerng T.

I suppose the expectation is probably the same. It (a bounty offer) works, usually, everywhere.

user2684291

"Why is the present simple tense used for an event that is in the future?" — The present simple is used for facts, with no regard to the time when they are true or not true ascribed to the tense.

OK, that's not really correct, but some books describe it along these lines.

"The Simple Present can also indicate the speaker believes that a fact was true before, is true now, and will be true in the future. It is not important if the speaker is correct about the fact. It is also used to make generalizations about people or things."

The first Google result.

Damkerng T.

"was true before"? -- Misleading!

"The present simple is used for facts, with no regard to the time when they are true or not true ascribed to the tense." can be reduced to "The present simple is used for facts, with no regard to blah blah blah", which in turn can be reduced to "The present simple is used for facts", which in turn is not particularly useful.

user2684291

Is it true, though?

Damkerng T.

15:07

I suppose one can make an argument that it's true. I don't think it will be a good argument, though.

user2684291

All right. I was oversimplifying.

@DamkerngT. But I agree "I would like to know the difference between 'be going to,' the present continuous, and the present simple." – why not add "will" and its derivatives? It's too broad.

Damkerng T.

But the bounty includes will!

user2684291

Oh, right, I just noticed.

Damkerng T.

Another possibility (of why) is probably because some of us don't want to get into an argument over how many tenses there are in English. Two, three, or 24?

user2684291

Well, it depends on the definition of "tense", I guess.

Damkerng T.

15:14

nods

user2684291

isn't tense at all.

Damkerng T.

By writing an answer, it's very easy to get ourselves into such an argument.

@user2684291 LOL

user2684291

can be a bit dense, though.

@DamkerngT. Right. The enquirer doesn't really care about that anyway.

Damkerng T.

Indeed!

user2684291

ell.stackexchange.com/a/115682/3395 I wasn't sure what else to say.

Maybe I should've asked what the real question is?

Damkerng T.

15:28

"I thought my friend has to mention the reason of her getting wet" -- this part, perhaps.

user2684291

Yeah, I think what I said confirms that isn't true?

Damkerng T.

Yes, but, hmm..., oh, well.

user2684291

Haha.

Damkerng T.

I think your answer is okay. I'm not sure if the OP will get your point.

user2684291

I answered it how I would've wanted the answer to be if I'd asked that question.

He's not wrong that it could be misconstrued, but it's highly unlikely, which is why I feel as though he's seeking confirmation regarding the default meaning of "wet".

Which doesn't have to bear any connotations as to the cause of it.

Hence, my answer.

Damkerng T.

15:33

You don't need to explain yourself to me. It's fine. :)

When I see a question like this, I wish the OP would give us more feedback (and sometimes they do!)

user2684291

I guess.

Damkerng T.

Movpak Kicking Off Mass Production

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After over two years, it looks like it's gonna happen!

I wonder what stuff is made in Shenzhen nowadays.

Probably almost everything.

M.A.R.

16:51

@DamkerngT. But explaining ourselves to you, and subsequently earning your approval, is the very purpose of this chat

M.A.R.

17:10

assets.amuniversal.com/88407b006cc901301d50001dd8b71c47

user2684291

@M.A.R. I'm much obliged for DamkerngT.-sensei's approval indeed.

M.A.R.

18:22

dilbert.com/strip/2007-10-16

Damkerng T.

18:32

@M.A.R. LOL -- いえ、いえ！

M.A.R.

dilbert.com/strip/2007-10-26 -- Talent vs. Time

Damkerng T.

@M.A.R. Hahaha!

M.A.R.

Saving for later search

dilbert.com/strip/2007-11-04 -- Bureaucracy

Anonymous

18:54

@user2684291 Why don't you say that in your answer, then?

Anonymous

I don't think it's really implied by what you've written.

V.V.

19:04

Morning Snailplane.

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Q: Their products are of very high quality

Why we should add "of" in this sentence: Their products are of very high quality. Can we just simply drop the word "of"?

grammar prepositions

Can we really?

M.A.R.

@V.V. Yep

Both versions work, but they're syntactically different

Well obviously

CatfishFTW

21:08

Hi I am Catfish :D

I can ask here?

Anonymous

21:27

@CatfishFTW Hello, Catfish! Welcome to ELL chat! :-) You can ask questions here, but remember that you can also ask on the main site: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/ask

Anonymous

We're happy to help in chat if we can, but questions posted on the main site may get more attention and more answers.

Anonymous

You are also welcome to chat here about any topic if you wish to practice English.

Anonymous

@V.V. Good morning :-)

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