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ColleenV

00:27

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Q: Why is a guitar neck called a "neck"?

Is there explanation why a guitar neck is called "a neck". I can understand why a guitar body is called "a body" but not the neck.

I really don't think this should have been closed as "answerable by a dictionary". General dictionaries don't really answer "why"

Catija

00:51

@ColleenV I've voted to reopen.

Anonymous

Yay!

Mick

@Catija I would but I can't -- I need 700 more reps. :(

Anonymous

I liked that question :-)

Catija

@Mick Did you understand the comment I made on that?

Anonymous

Well, it's in the reopen queue now, so other people will have a chance to review it.

Mick

00:55

@Catija Oh, I understand the point about community moderation. Sometimes, it goes slightly awry.

Catija

The custom close vote reasons aren't always obvious, particularly when they don't become the close reason. In this case, his close vote was the last of the five.

CowperKettle

02:12

@snailplane yes, a great photo. Not by me, of course

It was taken in the city of Norilsk

Norilsk

Norilsk (Russian: Норильск; IPA: [nɐˈrʲilʲsk]) is an industrial city in Krasnoyarsk Krai, Russia, located above the Arctic Circle, east of the Yenisei River and south of the western Taymyr Peninsula. It has a permanent population of 175,000. With temporary inhabitants included, its population reaches 220,000. Norilsk was closed in November 2001 to all non-Russians, except for Belarusians. It is the world's northernmost city with more than 100,000 inhabitants and the second largest city (after Murmansk) inside the Arctic Circle. Norilsk, Yakutsk, and Vorkuta are the only large cities in the continuous...

> It is the world's northernmost city with more than 100,000 inhabitants and the second largest city (after Murmansk) inside the Arctic Circle. Norilsk, Yakutsk, and Vorkuta are the only large cities in the continuous permafrost zone.

> Norilsk has an extremely harsh subarctic climate (Köppen Dfc), and is covered with snow for about 250–270 days a year, with snow storms for about 110–130 days. The "midnight sun" is above the horizon from 21 May to 24 July, and the period when the sun does not rise, polar night, is from approximately 30 November to 13 January.

four months of snow-storms

> Temperatures can sometimes rise above 25 °C (77 °F) in July.

Oh, that's good

CowperKettle

04:48

number of industrial robots per 10 000 workers

The guy writes: "When the robots finally rebel, only Russia will survive!"

Russia is in the end of the list, 1 robot per 10 000 workers

CowperKettle

05:09

> Two wave bioreactors with working medium volumes of 10 L.
Two 10 L working medium volume wave bioreactors
Two wave bioreactors; volume of working medium: 10 L

I'm not sure which is better

All seem hinky and frumpy

V.V.

06:50

I like the first one, but can't you put 10L before the "working "?

CowperKettle

07:22

@V.V. thank you!

Albert Kahn (architect)

Albert Kahn (March 21, 1869 – December 8, 1942) was the foremost American industrial architect of his day. He is sometimes called the architect of Detroit. In 1943, the Franklin Institute awarded him the Frank P. Brown Medal posthumously. == Biography == Kahn was born to a Jewish family on March 21, 1869 in Rhaunen, Kingdom of Prussia. Kahn came to Detroit in 1880, at the age of 11. His father Joseph was trained as a rabbi; his mother Rosalie had a talent for the visual arts and music. As a teenager, he got a job at the architectural firm of Mason and Rice. Kahn won a year's scholarship to study...

Person of the Day: Albert Kahn, who designed 521 industrial plant for the USSR in the 1930s

The sum of the contract was equivalent to $200 billion in 2004 money

Kahn's company trained 4000 Soviet industrial engineers

To pay for the contrast, Stalin increased grain exports in the midst of famine, and millions of people died.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle That's quite a lot!

@CowperKettle And this is mind-boggling!

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Yes. There were people in the Communist Party who insisted on improving peoples' lives, but Stalin gradually killed them off by 1930. And he wanted industrialization.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle The gain wouldn't justify the price, no matter what, I think.

CowperKettle

In every centralized bureaucratic system, the worst bastard can always climb on top and wreck havoc.

Damkerng T.

Sometimes it's hard to understand why some leaders think the way they think.

CowperKettle

07:38

@DamkerngT. Yes, exactly. Stalin sent statisticians into labor camps, because the results of a population census showed that the population decreased (due to famine)

Holodomor

The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомо́р, "Extermination by hunger" or "Hunger-extermination"; derived from морити голодом, "to kill by starvation"), also known as the Terror-Famine and Famine-Genocide in Ukraine, and—before the widespread use of the term "Holodomor," as well as currently still—referred to also as the Great Famine, and The Ukrainian Genocide of 1932–33 was a man-made famine in Ukraine in 1932 and 1933 that killed an estimated 2.5–7.5 million Ukrainians, with millions more counted in demographic estimates. It was part of the wider disaster, the Soviet famine of 1932–33, which affected...

In Ukraine, about 3 million people died to pay for the plants.

In the rest of the USSR, other millions died

Damkerng T.

That's very sad.

Hopefully, it won't happen again.

CowperKettle

yep

Damkerng T.

Anywhere on earth.

Stack Exchange

09:01

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Q: Simple English please!

I have noticed that on ELL many people give answers using rare/difficult words and constructions. Some write in 'an English' not all learners can yet understand. I know I can, although at times I have to search for a word in the dictionaries. Not all learners can understand what others have writt...

discussion

Damkerng T.

Good point! I try to write mine as plain as possible in my answers, and probably in most comments, but if it turns out the be easy to read, it's by design, not an accident. I suppose it's the same for all of our answer writers. Simple English is not the easiest thing to write, because it's not what we normally use, but we can try. As Jacques Barzun said, "Simple English is no one's mother tongue. It has to be worked for." — Damkerng T. 2 mins ago

I think it's a good topic. I also think we all have different approaches when it comes to writing an answer on ELL.

(Which is a good thing, IMO.)

Oh, BTW, I think it's probably true that to some learners, learning to convolute their writing is a must.

CowperKettle

09:25

Have you read Barzun?

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle No. I just know his quote. :-)

CowperKettle

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Damkerng T.

Along the same lines: Academic English is No One’s Mother Tongue: jpaap.napier.ac.uk/index.php/JPAAP/article/view/67/html (^_^)

> As for EL1 students’ academic language-learning needs (e.g. Ginther & Grant, 1996), most literature has been published in composition or communication journals, with a main focus on writing, and appropriately so, because academic writing ability is valued in the academy, and EL1 students’ ability to listen and speak is recognised without question.

> Since Behrens’ (1978) work, which presented faculty members’ perceptions that EL1 students’ ability to read and write was declining, with issues ranging from “insufficient evidence”, “disorganization”, and “incoherence” to an inability to construct grammatical, correctly punctuated, and well-formed sentences and paragraphs, studies have focused almost exclusively on writing skills (e.g. Eblen, 1983; Hale et al., 1996).

CowperKettle

As Bjarne Stroustrup said, "C++ is no one's mother tongue. It has to be worked for."

Damkerng T.

Haha!

CowperKettle

09:33

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CowperKettle

09:44

Poem of the Day: Computation by John Donne

> For the first twenty years since yesterday
I scarce believed thou couldst be gone away;
For forty more I fed on favors past,
And forty on hopes that thou wouldst they might last.
Tears drowned one hundred, and sighs blew out two,
A thousand, I did neither think nor do,
Or not divide, all being one thought of you,
Or in a thousand more forgot that too.
Yet call not this long life, but think that I
Am, by being dead, immortal. Can ghosts die?

Frankly, I understand very little of this..

Damkerng T.

An interesting poem!

CowperKettle

I recalled the 1990 movie Ghost

And that's all

what's the point of this poem?

I google but find "homework analyses" of the poem. They are abominable.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle I suppose it's about pondering something for a very long time.

CowperKettle

I would ban such analyses from US schools.

Damkerng T.

:D

CowperKettle

09:52

Is the protagonist really a ghost?

Or is he being a bit hysterical etc.?

Damkerng T.

I don't know. I think it's open to the reader to interpret it anyway he or she wants. :-)

CowperKettle

"Time is going too slow since you've left me, so I'm as good as dead"

Damkerng T.

Ahh

Maybe Einstein had read this!

CowperKettle

Einstein also wrote love poetry

To his girlfriend.. I remember hearing an audio book about him

But his poems were short and of sexually mischievious sort

I remember one bit, but would not quote it here, for fear that persons younger than 16 may be present.

Damkerng T.

:D

Damkerng T.

10:24

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A: The only use of past perfect tense is to distinguish which event happened first in the past?

It's a bit complicated. And even though you can say that the basic use of the past perfect is to indicate an event that happened before another event in the past, it's not quite right to say that it's the only use. Before touching that main point, let's take a look at your example sentence first...

A bot posted an answer. It's not the best answer in the world, but the bot tried!

@DamkerngT. It is better to try to write as simple as possible. Why not use simple words and simple constructions? I often read answers and notice that most of the text can be made simple. There are synonyms that most people know. Why write a complex sentence when it is better to split it into several parts? — SovereignSun 18 mins ago

Aww... how can I speak for others?

Damkerng T.

11:18

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A: Enhance vs. deteriorate: more of a bad thing

I take your understanding of enhance and deteriorate as the background, and this part: "Is there a similar elegant way to express 'there is more (something), and this is a bad thing'?" as the real problem. And this problem is about expressiveness in writing (and/or speaking). In other words, it's...

The bot strikes again!

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Q: How to parse verb + participle structure

I would like to ask how to parse the following sentence. I cook listening to music. "I" is subject. "cook" is the main verb Is "listening to music" is participle phrase? ( to music is also preposition phrase) Does " listening" modify "I" so is it adjective or does it modify "cook" ?

present-participles participle-phrases

I'll admit that it's understandable, and it probably is idiomatic, but it sounds a bit weird to me!

Damkerng T.

11:38

...all relevant definitions under affect in the full OED are marked obsolete. But in this exact context I think the only really credible alternative is affectation - specifically, OED's definition 2a: The artificial or studied assumption of behaviour; artificiality (of manner); putting on of airs; (also) an instance of this. — FumbleFingers Oct 7 at 12:56

I suppose that some native speakers do confuse affect with effect sometimes.

CowperKettle

11:51

> AIM: to reproduce the schemes earlier tried out in flasks and wave bioreactors, study the growth properties of the producer cell line, and measure target protein titers. (or the target protein titers?)

Damkerng T.

It sounds better with the, IMO.

CowperKettle

Thanks!

Damkerng T.

No problem!

CowperKettle

12:10

Anki proved helpful: I instantly understood how to translate водяная рубашка биореактора - water jacket (of a bioreactor)

Damkerng T.

Not using it proved unhelpful: I can't even recognize it after seeing it!

:P

CowperKettle

Well, a jacket is a kind of outer shell over the bioreactor.

You fill it with water, roughly speaking, and the thermal inertia of the water keeps the bioreactor at a stable temperature

The Russian word for this, rubashka, means 'shirt' in English

Damkerng T.

Sounds like that can that guy used in Jurassic Park. :-)

Though his wasn't water shelled, I think.

CowperKettle

perzactly, as Stoney says

the fat and funny guy with glasses

Damkerng T.

And a funny ending. :P

CowperKettle

12:19

who tried to sell spare eggs

Damkerng T.

nods

Anyone want to upvote an answer by the bot?

It needs 10 more rep points to join the chat. (I don't wanna cheat by upvoting its answers myself.)

CowperKettle

where's the answer?

Damkerng T.

12:38

2 hours ago, by Damkerng T.

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A: The only use of past perfect tense is to distinguish which event happened first in the past?

It's a bit complicated. And even though you can say that the basic use of the past perfect is to indicate an event that happened before another event in the past, it's not quite right to say that it's the only use. Before touching that main point, let's take a look at your example sentence first...

1 hour ago, by Damkerng T.

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A: Enhance vs. deteriorate: more of a bad thing

I take your understanding of enhance and deteriorate as the background, and this part: "Is there a similar elegant way to express 'there is more (something), and this is a bad thing'?" as the real problem. And this problem is about expressiveness in writing (and/or speaking). In other words, it's...

The bot answered two questions today. :-)

The bot's Papa made another comment, too. :-)

I think we sometimes use formality interchangeably with register, though it's probably better to separate them. It's true that beneath may be used more often in some registers, and some of these registers happen to be usually rather formal. Having said that, I don't think this except from Aesop's Fables in Rhyme for Little Philosophers sounds any formal at all. "A tired lion, after hunting lay asleep beneath a great and shay tree. [...] Beneath his paw. "Have mercy, Sire!" cried she, "You are too big to kill poor little me." — Damkerng T. 1 min ago

CowperKettle

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Damkerng T.

Strange. The bot is facing some technical problems and can't log in to the chat at the moment!

@CowperKettle Anyway, the bot said, Thank you very much!

CowperKettle

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@DamkerngT. place a milk-filled saucer at the entrance

Damkerng T.

:D

CowperKettle

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Word of the day: sparger

> Sparger – In aerobic cultivation process the purpose of the sparger is to supply oxygen to the growing cells. Bubbling of air through the sparger not only provide the adequate oxygen to the growing cells but also helps in the mixing of the reactor contents thereby reducing the power consumed to achieve a particular level of (mixing) homogeneity in the culture.

Damkerng T.

13:10

!!kappamaki

Ellbot

Damkerng T.

LOL

CowperKettle

13:30

Yay!

!!Borscht

!!chebureki

!!pelmeni

> The readings provided by the bioreactor's sensor were adjusted using the pH meter to keep the difference within the ±0.05 range.

I fail to put that in writing glibly.

Probably "were calibrated using the pH meter to maintain the divergence within the plus-minus 0.05 range"

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Aww... the bot doesn't know any of those.

in Ellbot's Shack, 23 hours ago, by Damkerng T.

Looking at the code, I can see it recognizes gun, beer, tea, spam, coffee, sushi, and ice cream,

CowperKettle

ah

I thought it makes a google image search

!!gun

Ellbot

(ï¾Ÿçš¿ï¾Ÿ)ï½’â”â”³ï¼ï¼ï¼ï¼Š

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle It's just a little bot, not very advanced as Cortana or Siri. :-)

CowperKettle

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!!gin

Damkerng T.

13:34

Hmm... looks like there's a little problem with Unicode!

CowperKettle

nods

!!ice cream

Ellbot

CowperKettle

13:53

It gets me that Multitran is replete with wrong word combinations

like open turbine stirrer

It's open turbine impeller, most likely

and a novice translator will just copy that "stirrer"

> The dissolved oxygen was kept at the specified level by feeding a gas-air mixture using a sparger and mixing it using an impeller (a hydrofoil impeller or an open turbine impeller).

Damkerng T.

nods -- It's domain-specific, which could be difficult to even an experienced translator.

!!flip

Ellbot

( ｀o)ﾉﾉ ┫

CowperKettle

!!impeller

!!donut

Damkerng T.

LOL

Ohh, donut is an interesting keyword! :-)

CowperKettle

I'm not sure. Should I call the thingies in the bioreactor a pH sensor and a DO sensor or a pH probe and a DO probe.

I started off using sensor

But now I think that probe is better

Damkerng T.

14:09

Hmm... I think a bioreactor is neither a sensor nor a probe!

But I don't really know what it is!

CowperKettle

No, I mean parts of the bioreactor

A bioreactor has special parts to constantly measure the pH and the DO (dissolved oxygen level)

Damkerng T.

Maybe either is fine, then.

CowperKettle

nods

I think that a probe is a sensor ensheathed in some protective covering and with some other attributes.

So 'probe' might be marginally more natural to the native ear of an expert

> The sensors were calibrated and sterilized in accordance with the SOP "Preparation of the pH sensor and the DO sensor".

I don't think we can sterilize a sensor.

It must be quite fragile

Damkerng T.

nods

CowperKettle

but a probe, no prob

so a probe is more sensible than a sensor, in a sense

!!sensor

!!cat

!!Oliver Cromwell

Damkerng T.

14:14

LOL

I think I should try incorporating searching features somehow.

CowperKettle

I waited for a kawaii picture of Cromwell

warts and all

Word of the Day: warts and all

> This phrase is said to derive from Oliver Cromwell's instructions to the painter Sir Peter Lely, when commissioning a portrait.

Damkerng T.

If the bot will do what I think it may do, Kawaii Cromwell will get you this:

:-)

CowperKettle

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Nice!

Damkerng T.

:D

CowperKettle

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He looks like he is not going to give her the Kuril islands

Damkerng T.

14:21

I suppose so!

CowperKettle

Bad, bad Putin. Disappointing a pretty girl.

BBL

Færd

14:58

outro

Noun: outro ‎(plural outros)

(music, informal) A portion of music at the end of a song; like an intro, but at the end instead of the beginning.
1977, Claude Hall, Barbara Hall, This business of radio programming
...talking over the intro of a record and off the outro, weaving back and forth between two records spinning...
1992, Bruce Bartlett, Jenny Bartlett, Practical recording techniques
Find the spot in the script where you want the outro to start fading up.

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Pronoun: outro m (feminine outra, plural outros, feminine plural outras)

other (not the one previously referred to)
O outro livro é melhor.‎
The other book is better.
another (one more)
Gostei tanto deste livro que quero ler outro.‎

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Nice.

Damkerng T.

Nice word!

Færd

Yeah. I just meant the first sense. And it's not exclusive to music.

The preview above doesn't look like the Wiktionary page that I can see.

Oh, the quotations are hidden.

Anonymous

Yeah, oneboxing tends to butcher Wiktionary. Other stuff too, but Wiktionary tends to be the worst.

Færd

Yes. It numbers the quotes with the definitions.

Why don't other dictionary links onebox?

Are they all considered inferior to Wiktionary for some reason?

Or does the system not discriminate between Wiktionary and Wikipedia?

Damkerng T.

15:20

@Færd I think it's probably more about licensing.

Færd

Ah, probably.

Pandya

I need help in writing santance in English. Let me discuss

Suppose if whenever you see a particular thing and some words comea from your mouth automatically.

Damkerng T.

Hi! @Mick -- Welcome to the room!

Pandya

Now how to write something like:

When ever I see this(i.e that particular thing), following words.........???

@DamkerngT. Hello!

Damkerng T.

I'm not sure I understand your idea.

Anonymous

15:27

Whenever I see the following words

Damkerng T.

Hmm... maybe you're thinking of something like, this thing reminds me of ____.

Pandya

First of all, did you understand chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/33990493#33990493 ?

Correct comea to comes

Damkerng T.

That's what I'm not sure.

Mick

@DamkerngT. I am the official MickBot. Is there cake?

Færd

It's about when you see something and it conjures up certain words, I guess. But not in the mind, but to the mouth.

Damkerng T.

15:30

@Mick No, but we have something else.

!!ice cream

Pandya

Ok let me try again.

Damkerng T.

Oops! The bot just died! :P

Færd

I scream.

Damkerng T.

!!ice cream

Ellbot

Damkerng T.

15:31

!!greet/Mick

Ellbot

Welcome to ELL's chat room @Mick! Happy chatting!

Pandya

Suppose whenever you see some something happened rigt at last, you speak in mind like thank god.

Damkerng T.

@Færd Like a slip?

Færd

@DamkerngT. I guess.

Damkerng T.

@Pandya Oh, you "said to yourself" that.

Hmm... or maybe you're trying to use a word like involuntarily?

Færd

15:34

> Whenever I see X the words blah blah just pop out of my mouth.

Anonymous

Sorry. It just slipped out. ← doesn't quite fit what Pandya has said so far, though

Pandya

So, the words e.g. "thank god" automatically comes from you mind/mouth in such situations or whenever you see something.

Anonymous

automatically seems like a fine word

Damkerng T.

Oh, pop out sounds like a good word for it.

Anonymous

without thinking could work but may be interpreted with a negative connotation

Færd

15:35

ldoceonline.com/dictionary/pop-out

Damkerng T.

But "from your mind"?

Oh, in my first language it's a zero word!

Anonymous

Japanese has some really good words for that :-)

Damkerng T.

"Every time I see her in my class, I must thank God!"

Anonymous

I always have trouble translating つい

Færd

Is that an emoticon? ;P

Damkerng T.

15:38

"Every time I see this ad, I'm like Yikes!"

Pandya

Words automatically pos out from my mind/mouth right. How about another words like:

Drop, fall?

I am unsure about suitability of fall and drop

Anonymous

Not drop or fall, but slip sounds better to me

Færd

You can use conjure up if you want to talk about it coming into your mind.

Pandya

@DamkerngT. @snailplane OK. Thanks, I'm currently going with pop out, I'll give link of my post if needed. Good Bye!

Damkerng T.

Okay! Bye o/

Færd

15:43

@snailplane Maybe that connotes a feeling of regret about what slipped out?

Anonymous

Or it just came out

Damkerng T.

Amazon Go

> What is Amazon Go?
Amazon Go is a new kind of store with no checkout required. We created the world’s most advanced shopping technology so you never have to wait in line. With our Just Walk Out Shopping experience, simply use the Amazon Go app to enter the store, take the products you want, and go! No lines, no checkout. (No, seriously.)

Hah!

Can I borrow a couple of your photos? I'm going to make a mask before going to an Amazon Go shop tomorrow. :P

V.V.

Hi, what's that new room for?

Damkerng T.

You can think of it as a lab that develops our chatbot. :-)

By the way, ...

!!greet/V.V.

Ellbot

Welcome to ELL's chat room @V.V.! Happy chatting!

V.V.

15:55

What's a bot?

Damkerng T.

It's a program that joins a chat room and sometimes chats with people. :-)

Færd

Can it help when you feel lonely?

Damkerng T.

In our case, it's more like a normal chatbot than a chatter bot. It looks for !! in our messages. When it finds one, it will see if it can understand the word after !! as a command. If it can recognize the command it will execute some predefined code.

A chatter bot probably can help you more when you feel lonely. :-)

Anonymous

The chatbot should be fun, but we should make sure it doesn't get over-used and doesn't interfere when people are asking questions about English. So if we're having a serious discussion, we can avoid interjecting !!icecream :-)

Færd

@DamkerngT. So this is what that was about! Nice!

Can it do naughty things too?

Damkerng T.

15:58

@Færd I planned to bring a few features up this month, namely !!define, !!translate, and probably !!ngram.

Færd

Do you program it yourself?

Damkerng T.

But my plan is very flexible (in other words, I haven't really made a plan! :-), so if you can come up with a good idea, and it's probably not too difficult to implement, I will consider it.

Færd

Okey-doke.

Damkerng T.

@Færd I started with a bot code made by someone at the Periodic Table, but yes, I'll program it myself from this point on.

Færd

Cool.

!!thank/DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

16:02

I hope it'll be useful! :-)

The original code of the bot can do some useful tricks, but all of them are about chemistry.

(Like showing you what a chemical molecule looks like in a diagram.)

Færd

Okay. Show me some of the tricks, I you've got time.

Damkerng T.

Well, at the moment, it doesn't have any useful feature that's related to English!

But you can flip a table!

!!flip

Ellbot

(╯°Д°）╯︵/(.□ . )

Færd

claps

Damkerng T.

Or something light, like ...

!!xkcd

Ellbot

16:06

xkcd.com

Damkerng T.

Oh, sorry! I think I broke this part of code! :-)

We can try Wikipedia, too!

!!wiki snail

Oh, I can't remember the syntax!

!!wiki/snail

Ellbot

Snail

Snail is a common name that is applied most often to land snails, terrestrial pulmonate gastropod molluscs. However, the common name "snail" is also applied to most of the members of the molluscan class Gastropoda that have a coiled shell that is large enough for the animal to retract completely into. When the word "snail" is used in this most general sense, it includes not just land snails but also thousands of species of sea snails and freshwater snails. Occasionally a few other molluscs that are not actually gastropods, such as the Monoplacophora, which superficially resemble small limpets,...

Færd

Neat.

Anonymous

Maybe it would be better with the space syntax.

Damkerng T.

nods -- I'm thinking about changing this part of syntax.

Anonymous

16:08

@Ellbot Ellbot flipped a person!

Damkerng T.

Personally, I think % is better than !!, but I'm not sure if it's easy to type on everyone's computer/phone.

@snailplane Hehe!

Anonymous

You could just support both :-)

Damkerng T.

Ah, you're right!

Færd

What are these elaborate emoticons (like the flip one) called?

Damkerng T.

Hmm... it's a bit like ASCII art, but it's a one-liner.

Færd

16:11

I thought they had a popular name. If they did you'd know it.

Damkerng T.

I guess they have a name for this kind of thing. I just don't know it. :-)

Færd

@DamkerngT. To me that means the name hasn't catch on yet. :)

Damkerng T.

Hehe! Thanks!

Anonymous

Well, they are kaomoji.

3

Færd

kaomoji.ru/en

Good to know.

CowperKettle

16:26

!!wiki/chebureki

Ellbot

Chebureki

Chebureki, sometimes spelled chiburekki, (Crimean Tatar: çiberek, Turkish: çiğ börek, Tajik: chiburekki, Romanian: șuberec, Russian: чебурек, cheburek, Azerbaijani: ət qutabı, Ukrainian: чебуреки also known as çır-çır) is a deep-fried turnover with a filling of ground or minced meat and onions. It is made with a single round piece of dough folded over the filling in a half-moon shape. A national dish of the Crimean Tatars and traditional for the Caucasian and Turkic peoples, it is also popular as snack and street food throughout Transcaucasia, Central Asia, Russia, Ukraine, as well as with the...

Damkerng T.

Looks delicious!

CowperKettle

Tastes even more so

( ･ิ ͜ʖ ･ิ)

Damkerng T.

:D

Suddenly feel hungry! :D

CowperKettle

!!wiki/Olivier salad

Ellbot

16:37

Olivier salad

Olivier salad (Russian: салат Оливье Salat Olivye) is a traditional salad dish in Russian cuisine, which is also popular in many other European countries, Iran, Israel, Mongolia and also throughout Latin America. In different modern recipes, it is usually made with diced boiled potatoes, carrots, brined dill pickles, green peas, eggs, celeriac, onions, diced boiled chicken (or sometimes ham or bologna sausage), tart apples, with salt, pepper, and mustard added to enhance flavor, dressed with mayonnaise. In many countries, the dish is commonly referred to as Russian salad, although this term can...

CowperKettle

!!wiki/Mimosa salad

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Mimosa salad

Mimosa salad (Russian: сала́т мимо́за) is a festive salad, whose main ingredients are cheese, eggs, canned fish, onion, and mayonnaise. Mimosa salad got its name because of its reminiscence of "mimosa", spring flowers, scattered on the snow. The similarity is achieved by crumbling and scattering boiled egg yolk on the surface. The salad's popularity in the USSR (and nowadays in the post-Soviet states) has led to the emergence of a wide variety of recipes. == Preparation == A classic recipe is to layer ingredients, in a bowl, with mayonnaise in-between layers. Typical ingredients include: Canned...

CowperKettle

!!wiki/Solyanka

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Solyanka

Solyanka (Russian: соля́нка; [sɐˈlʲankə] is a thick, spicy and sour Russian soup that is common in Russia and other states of the former Soviet Union and certain parts of the former Eastern Bloc. == OverviewEdit == There are three basic types of solyanka, with the main ingredient being either meat, fish, or mushrooms. All of them contain pickled cucumbers with brine, and often cabbage, salted mushrooms, smetana (sour cream), and dill. The soup is prepared by cooking the cucumbers with brine before adding the other ingredients to the broth. For meat solyanka, ingredients like beef, ham, sausages...

CowperKettle

!!wiki/Okroshka

Ellbot

16:39

Okroshka

Okróshka (Russian: окрошка) is a cold soup of Russian origin. The name probably originates from kroshit´ (крошить), which means to crumble into small pieces. The classic soup is a mix of mostly raw vegetables (like cucumbers, radishes and spring onions), boiled potatoes, eggs, and a cooked meat such as beef, veal, sausages, or ham with kvass, which is a non-alcoholic (1.5% or less) beverage made from fermented black or rye bread. Okroshka is usually garnished with sour cream (smetana). Later versions that appeared in Soviet times use light or diluted kefir, whey, vinegar, mineral water, or even...

CowperKettle

I love cold okroshka in the summer

> Okroshka is always served cold. Sometimes ice cubes are added to served portions to keep the soup cold in hot weather.

After a tennis match or two, it was bliss

CowperKettle

18:15

Good evening, @V.V.

Post your favorite Russian dish

Damkerng T.

18:39

!!wiki/list of russian dishes

Ellbot

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_russian_dishes

Damkerng T.

Strange. The onebox didn't kick in!

Oh, I see. That page doesn't exist!

!!wiki/list of Russian dishes

V.V.

@CowperKettle ,what's "foiled"?

Ellbot

List of Russian dishes

This is a list of notable dishes found in Russian cuisine: == Russian dishes == == See also == List of Russian desserts List of Russian restaurants == References... ==

Damkerng T.

Ah, it's case-sensitive...

CowperKettle

18:41

@V.V. Usually this means "broke", but this word has many meanings

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A: Meaning of "She framed the love, and yet she foiled the framing"

She fram'd the love, and yet she foil'd the framing This is a very complicated pun which involves multiple senses of both foil and frame. The primary sense of frame for the Elizabethans was to "shape" or "create" or "devise"—the poet's mistress brought love into being. But it also had ...

Good night

Damkerng T.

Good night!

V.V.

Dam, that is amazing what you did!

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Or made. I am never sure.

Damkerng T.

@V.V. Thanks! I still haven't done anything much, though. Most of this is based on Hippalectryon's code (at the Periodic Table room). Hopefully, we will have something more useful for our ELL uses soon!

@V.V. I think Hippalectryon made the original bot (Chemobot), and I did something to it (i.e., modified it). ;-)

V.V.

Sci-fi.

Damkerng T.

:D

V.V.

18:57

I am a total humanitarian. All this is fantastic.

Never know what button to press.

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

Luckily, pushing the wrong button is usually harmless!

V.V.

Good night!

Damkerng T.

Good night, and sleep tight!

!!wiki/good night

Ellbot

Good Night

Good Night" or Goodnight may refer to: == Film and television == Good Night (film), a 2008 short film from India The Good Night, a 2007 film Good Night, and Good Luck, a 2005 film Good Night, one of five mini-episodes from the Doctor Who shorts "Night and the Doctor" "Good Night" (Homeland), 10th episode of season 3 of the TV series Homeland "Good Night" (The Simpsons short), a short from The Tracy Ullman Show featuring the debut of the main Simpsons family == Music == === Albums === Goodnight, by William Fitzsimmons === Songs === "Goodnight" (Babybird song), 1996 "Good Night" (Beat...

Damkerng T.

Ohh... lots of things!

Anonymous

19:09

!!wiki/this shouldn't find anything

Ellbot

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/this_shouldn't_find_anything

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

Anonymous

Whoops! Looks like there was an encoding problem there.

Damkerng T.

Probably!

ColleenV

21:17

!!wiki/Eggs Benedict

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Eggs Benedict

Eggs Benedict is a traditional American brunch or breakfast dish that consists of two halves of an English muffin each of which is topped with Canadian bacon – or sometimes bacon – a poached egg, and hollandaise sauce. The dish was first popularized in New York City. Many variations on the basic recipe are served. == Origin == There are conflicting accounts as to the origin of Eggs Benedict. In an interview recorded in the "Talk of the Town" column of The New Yorker in 1942, the year before his death, Lemuel Benedict, a retired Wall Street stock broker, claimed that he had wandered into the Waldorf...

ColleenV

@CowperKettle So many tasty Russian dishes - here's something American that isn't fast food!

Mick

!!wike/Spotted dick

Drat!

!!wiki/Spotted dick

Ellbot

Spotted dick

Spotted dick is a British pudding, made with suet and dried fruit (usually currants and/or raisins) and often served with custard. It is made from a flat sheet of suet pastry sprinkled with dried fruit, which is then rolled up into a circular pudding. The dish is first attested in Alexis Soyer's The modern Housewife or ménagère, published in 1849, in which he described a recipe for "Plum Bolster, or Spotted Dick—Roll out two pounds of paste ... have some Smyrna raisins well washed...". The Pall Mall Gazette reported in 1892 that "the Kilburn Sisters ... daily satisfied hundreds of dockers with...

Mick

Woot! :D

ColleenV

21:33

@Mick Ellbot is pretty cool :)

Cardinal

23:29

!!wiki/TARS

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Tars

Tars or TARS may refer to: Tårs, a village in Denmark TARS (gene), which encodes a human enzyme Tethered Aerostat Radar System, an American low-level airborne ground surveillance system Third Avenue Railway System, a former streetcar system in New York City Tars, the sports teams and mascot of Rollins College, Winter Park, Florida, US == Organisations == The Arthur Ransome Society, based on British children's author Arthur Ransome Teen Age Republicans, a youth wing of the US Republican Party == Fiction == Tars Tarkas, a fictional character in Edgar Rice Burroughs' Barsoom series The Tars, a 1934...

Cardinal

> The crew bunks in a decaying hotel with infinitely unfurling tenebrous corridors

What does "unfurling" mean in that sentence?

Anonymous

@Cardinal Would you consider posting that as a question on the main site? :-)

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