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ColleenV
ColleenV
00:00
Not too bad. Work is crazy but I'd rather have work trouble than other types.
I can always find another job.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Come to think of it, I think you're right.
ColleenV
ColleenV
I don't think anyone on their deathbed looked back on their life and thought "I really wish I had worked more..."
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Some might, but I guess most wouldn't.
Somehow thinking of a scene in Schindler's List..
(That "I could have done more" scene.)
ColleenV
ColleenV
Ah, but that's a regret about people not working
I'm thinking more like 9-5 for a paycheck work not Mother Theresa/Gandhi/Schindler life's work
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Hehe! Sorry for straying off the topic! :)
ColleenV
ColleenV
00:08
I was thinking of this TED talk: ted.com/talks/…
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Ohh, an intriguing title!
ColleenV
ColleenV
It's worth watching
and it does talk about deathbed regrets
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Reading the video description, I'm very curious to hear more and want to watch the video (or at least leave it running so I can hear) until the end.
Thanks for the sharing!
ColleenV
ColleenV
My pleasure. Also, more SE related, this is an interesting discussion on meta:
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Q: Is Google and SEO the reason for Stack Overflow's strict content guidelines?

BugHunterUKI spotted a post on Medium about 5 minutes ago regarding Stack Overflow's strict guidelines on content. The article speculates that it's related to SEO and a decrease in revenue for Stack Overflow after the Panda update. Is there any truth to this? The article can be read here: https://medium.co...

discussion
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
00:32
applauds (to Jane McGonigal)
 
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Man_From_India
Man_From_India
01:39
-2
A: Is it correct to say "whichever ones you choose"?

Man_From_India [Whichever ones you choose] don't matter. This sentence is fine as it is. But as commenters have said, it might not be the best sentence available. @snailplane♦ already suggested a better alternative. The word - whichever - is a determiner. So when it precedes the head in a Noun Phrase st...

Mari-Lou changed my determinitive to determiner!
And the strangest thing is two people there think that whichever ones you choose doesn't matter is fine. One person even went on to say that both don't and doesn't are fine there.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
02:00
Hmm...
It's not very often I don't disagree with TRomano. This time is one of them, I guess.
I'm not saying that no native speaker would ever possibly say Whichever ones you choose doesn't matter, though.
FWIW, a lot of native speakers say She don't ... just fine (as discussed in a recent question).
Maybe "it don't matter" after all.
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
That answer sounds like this :-)
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
s/don't disagree/will disagree/
ColleenV
ColleenV
02:39
@Man_From_India Determinitive is a less common word that I believe means the same thing as determiner for grammar, so maybe Mari-Lou was just trying to make the thought easier to understand. Determinitive has some conflicting definitions (in linguistics especially I think) that might make it a little bit harder for someone less fluent to easily understand.
Anonymous
03:26
@Man_From_India That is strange. I think it's flatly ungrammatical.
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
@snailplane so do I. I'll try to do some corpus search later today.
@ColleenV I myself don't know any linguistic. But what I know is till Biber et al. it was determiner, later Pullum K and his team changed it to determinitive for clarity. For them determiner is a function, and determinitive is a word class. Not only that, modern linguist Bas Aarts also supports that determinitive terminology. These modern grammarians brought lots of changs to the grammar that even Quirk et al and Biber et al wrote.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
03:45
0
Q: How would you call this mining vehicle?

CopperKettleOn the image below is a mining machine produced by the Kopeysk Machine-Building Plant. I'm not sure how to call it in English. The Russian name is "prokhodchesko-ochistnoy kombain". Multitran offers the translation "heading and winning machine", but I'm not sure: when I enter this term in Googl...

terminology
Anonymous
@Man_From_India That's not correct.
Anonymous
Huddleston 1984 already used determinative, and is cited in Quirk et al 1985, which changed it to determiner.
Anonymous
Biber et al 1999 follows Quirk et al 1985, as it's sort of a companion piece.
Anonymous
Huddleston & Pullum 2002 sticks to Huddleston 1984's terminology, though.
Anonymous
Not in all cases, but in this case.
Anonymous
03:55
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's off-topic. — macraf 3 hours ago
Anonymous
Pretty good close reason.
Anonymous
(on another site)
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
We shall call it the Macraf Principle from now on.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
> PEU 242.1
After can see/hear (which refer to actions and events that are in progress - see 125), only the -ing structure is used.
I could see John getting on the bus. (NOT I could see John get ...)
But that's not true!
(Lots of results of "I could hear him cry" in Google Books.)
(Arguably, PEU can get away with "in progress", but this part is a bit misleading, IMO.)
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
@snailplane haha I am happy that no dictionary writer is like him, else the definition would be like this: apple means allple, because it doesn't mean anything else :P
@snailplane sorry my mistake :( i didn't know about 1984 book, because it was published before I was born :D haha
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
04:18
@DamkerngT. nods
Anonymous
04:37
Well, it's in the bibliography of Quirk et al 1985 :-)
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
04:48
> What’s in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call’d,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name;
And for that name, which is no part of thee,
Take all myself.
 
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Man_From_India
Man_From_India
06:28
@snailplane was kidding :-)
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
07:10
I wonder if I'll commit a translation crime if I translate "It's your X" to something that when back-translated will literally be closer to "X is yours". (Technically, it has a dummy it, too, and it's literally more like "X (it) is yours".)
 
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Martin Sleziak
Martin Sleziak
08:37
Per recommendation from another chat room I will mention that this suggested edit introduced possible spam or self-promotion. But the link has been removed since then, so probably there is not much else to do here.
Rathony
Rathony
08:49
@CowperKettle Always try to use "what" in place of "how".
@DamkerngT. I think the bigger issue is why you would use either "one" or "ones" after whichever.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
09:15
@Rathony fixed, thanks
good day!
Rathony
Rathony
@CowperKettle My pleasure. You, too.
@ColleenV maybe Mari-Lou was just trying to make the thought easier to understand. can't be any justification for the edit. It doesn't need to be changed for whatever reason. Also, changing "said" to "have said", "a" to "the" and adding "a" before "Noun Phrase Structure" don't seem necessary. That kind of edit should not be encouraged.
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
10:03
Hello @Tonepoet! I saw you here and thought for a second this was ELU chat. :)
Tonepoet
Tonepoet
@Arrowfar Oh hi. I forgot I still had this window opened. XD I'm here mostly because of Martin Sleziak's concern over that weblink. I was going to mention it myself, since I thought a more recognizable face might be more persuasive but it seems the issue has mostly resolved itself. Keep your eyes peeled for a spammer though.
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
@Tonepoet Welcome to ELL chat btw :)
Tonepoet
Tonepoet
@Arrowfar If you search the transcripts, you'll see that this isn't my first time here exactly but I thank you regardless.
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
oh I see. Nice.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@MartinSleziak Yah it's spam
WHAT THE HECK ARE OUR REVIEWERS DOING
Tonepoet
Tonepoet
10:14
@M.A.R. To be fair, the community 'bot was one of the reviewers.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Tonepoet Nope, it approved because Ahmad clicked edit.
It hasn't become sentient yet.
Tonepoet
Tonepoet
@M.A.R. Ai see. =P
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Gotta grab some snacks. Jim better hope @snail doesn't see that or they'll get a juicy review suspension.
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
Word of the day: Anthropic
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Tonepoet
Tonepoet
@Rathony Although Determinative looks like it would be synonymous with determiner in most cases, a cursory look makes it seem like the wrong word to refer to the part of speech that commonly goes by that name. I've done some amount of research on the matter before too and I know definitive would be an acceptable alternative.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
10:24
@Tonepoet According to CGEL, determiner is a function but determinative is a lexical category.
Rathony
Rathony
@Tonepoet I don't want to dispute part of speech nor its grammatical term. The choice should be made by the OP. Not the reviewer.
You should note that there is no unilateral governing body in English to decide which part of speech name or term is grammatically correct. It's entirely up to you.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
OK OK, what's the fight about?
Rathony
Rathony
@Tonepoet An editor is not in the position to decide. That's my whole point.
@M.A.R. Tonepoet and I never fight.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
OK, but what's the fight about?
Rathony
Rathony
@M.A.R. ell.stackexchange.com/posts/107901/revisions I said the edit is not necessary.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
10:28
@Rathony Well, spelling snail as ''snailplain'' is a sin.
Rathony
Rathony
@M.A.R. Please read my message to ColleenV above. I don't know how to link it.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Well, I took the liberty to edit it.
All this hassle could've been avoided if you just edited.
@Rathony When you hover over a message, a down arrow appears. That's a link to the message. You can CRTL+click it, drag-and-drop it and do everything you can do with links.
Rathony
Rathony
5 mins ago, by Rathony
@Tonepoet An editor is not in the position to decide. That's my whole point.
@M.A.R. Cool. It works. Ha ha.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Perfect (ﾉ＾◡＾)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻
Rathony
Rathony
@M.A.R. All this hassle could've avoided if someone hadn't edit it in the first place.
Tonepoet
Tonepoet
10:33
@Rathony That's not quite true. The editing guidelines allow for clarification and it happens often. Also while there is no unilateral governing body, there are conventions. I've only seen determiner before e.g. at Oxford and The Farlex Book of Grammar, but if C.G.E.L. uses it to mean that I suppose that suffices.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Rathony Well, of course editors can decide. It's that the decision was superfluous if not wrong here.
@Rathony Well, she did edit a bunch of typos.
Rathony
Rathony
@Tonepoet I don't think changing "determinitive" to "determiner" adds any more clarification.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Actually the only reason she probably edited was that she'd never seen the term and the spellchecker thinks 'determinative' is wrong.
Rathony
Rathony
@M.A.R. Could be.
@M.A.R. Except changing the user name, I don't see any meaningful edit there.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
I would've edited something like that if 1. I knew a similar term which seems to fit. And 2. The spellchecker underlined it in red. And 3. I've already edited some other typos so this post wasn't polished.
@Rathony Just drop it. There are much better things to argue about.
Like how much ketchup is optimal for a pizza.
Or each slice.
Rathony
Rathony
10:36
@M.A.R. What are you going to do if I don't drop it? :-)
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Flip tables
Rathony
Rathony
@M.A.R. Sounds like an idea. I've already dropped it. Don't worry.
Tonepoet
Tonepoet
I'll flip tables anyway because it sounds fun: ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(ツ)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻
Araucaria
Araucaria
0
A: Is it correct to say "whichever ones you choose"?

Araucaria Whichever ones you choose does not matter. This sentence is ambiguous. However,the most likely reading is that the phrase whichever ones you choose is an interrogative clause. In this case the sentence means something like: The answer to the question Which ones are you going to choos...

@Rathony Hi! Thanks for the support recently :)
Rathony
Rathony
@Araucaria My pleasure. Did you see undeleted posts?
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
10:45
@Tonepoet ʕ ⊃･ ◡ ･ ʔ⊃︵┻━┻
Araucaria
Araucaria
@Rathony Yes, thanks. I redeleted the few ones that were left over.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Araucaria Is everything fine now?
Araucaria
Araucaria
@M.A.R. Yes thanks old bean :)
Tonepoet
Tonepoet
@M.A.R. Toasty!
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Araucaria I think the reason ShadowWizard and Servy backlashed was they're too used to these kind of meta posts.
Meta.SO is full of ''my account banz ansering why why why'' whines.
They didn't bother to check whether your case was different.
Araucaria
Araucaria
10:48
@M.A.R. Yes, I think you're right!
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
The difference here was that you gave back something to the site, unlike 99% of the people that write these kind of meta posts.
Rathony
Rathony
@M.A.R. Still very hard to believe it was done by a mod. It can't be done unless you are drunk as a skunk.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Well, mods are still human.
Rathony
Rathony
@Araucaria english.stackexchange.com/questions/187591/… It was converted to a comment.
This one, too. english.stackexchange.com/questions/208501/…
Araucaria
Araucaria
@Rathony Thanks. I'm not too worried about that. I can always delete the comments if I want :)
Rathony
Rathony
10:56
@Araucaria Exactly. Just in case you didn't notice it.
Araucaria
Araucaria
@Rathony I'm glad you showed me. Thanks!
It's good to know.
Rathony
Rathony
@Araucaria Don't you think using ones after whichever is somewhat useless?
I edited out completely. :-)
Araucaria
Araucaria
@Rathony It depends how many you choose! Suppose you have to take three modules each semester and you're fussing over whether to take this one or that one. You're friend might say to you "Which ones you choose does not matter. There are no exams for these courses. You can't fail so long as you turn up"
@Rathony Or did you mean that it's a bit redundant because we could say "whichever you choose does not matter"?
Rathony
Rathony
@Araucaria Yes, exactly. I don't see the reason why you have to use one or ones when which or whichever do have its meaning.
It's OK to use one for emphasis, but ones? I don't know.
Araucaria
Araucaria
@Rathony I think you could probably do both.
Rathony
Rathony
11:04
@Araucaria It doesn't matter whichever I choose!!
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Mum's the word
Mum's the word is a popular English idiom. It is related to an expression used by William Shakespeare, in Henry VI, Part 2. == Meaning == "Mum's the word" means to keep silent or quiet. "Mum" is a Middle English word meaning "silent". The word may be derived from the "mummer" who does pantomime and just acts without saying anything. Note the phonetically similar German word "stumm" (Old High German "stum", Latin "mutus") meaning "silent, mute". == Origin == The origins of the phrase can be traced back to the fourteenth century and William Langland's narrative poem, Piers Plowman: It can also be...
Araucaria
Araucaria
@Rathony Yep!
Rathony
Rathony
Have fun. See you!!
Araucaria
Araucaria
@CowperKettle We still use that word mum a lot in modern English. It's a great word:
google.co.uk/…
@Rathony Ciao
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
Hello @ColleenV! How are you? :)
ColleenV
ColleenV
11:07
@Man_From_India Thanks for the information. I don't have the opportunity to sit down and read much about grammar and just looking at definitions only tells you so much. It seems Mari-Lou was as confused as I was about it.
@Arrowfar find thanks
ColleenV
ColleenV
11:17
@MartinSleziak Thanks Martin, we will take a look to see if we can figure out what happened there.
Araucaria
Araucaria
@Man_From_India @DamkerngT. @snailplane That's because the sentence is ambiguous! It depends on whether you read whichever ones you choose as an interrogative clause or an NP. If it's a clause then only does is possible. It it's an NP then only do is possible. So basically which one you find ungrammatical tells us which way you're reading the sentence!
See my answer for more details ....
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
11:31
@ColleenV Well, two people robo-reviewed. That's what happened
ColleenV
ColleenV
@M.A.R. Not exactly - it was just a mistake because they didn't go to the URL. They were too trusting. I've looked over the other stats and there is nothing there that makes me think they're robo-reviewing. Nathan caught it though - he's very thorough.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ColleenV TBH it's really obvious spam.
ColleenV
ColleenV
@M.A.R. Yes I agree, but no-one is perfect
I made sure the other moderators are aware of what happened and we will keep an eye out
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ColleenV Yes, indeed a human is to err, but the reviewer must be able to deal with the issues accurately enough.
Everyone has bad reviews.
But mistakes regarding spam or offensive reviews are inexcusable.
ColleenV
ColleenV
@M.A.R. I can't really share any details with you, but I have access to information that makes me willing to write this one review off as a mistake
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
11:41
OK then. Shrug
MAYBE NEXT TIME, JIMMIE ಠ_ಠ
ColleenV
ColleenV
@M.A.R. Mistakes make us take a closer look though so if there is a pattern we will handle it.
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
@ColleenV Is that a little spiderman in your avatar? A "still life" art form I'm guessing right?
ColleenV
ColleenV
@Arrowfar It's a lil Deadpool
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
ah
ColleenV
ColleenV
It's from a video game screenshot
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
11:51
Nice.
Martin Sleziak
Martin Sleziak
12:14
With regard to the above spam (or self-promotion) - in the discussion in another chat room we noticed that SmokeDetector noticed a few posts posted from an account with that username.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@MartinSleziak We're blacklisting the site over at Charcoal.
 
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yubraj sharma
yubraj sharma
13:25
Hi....To All of you !
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Hi
yubraj sharma
yubraj sharma
What I don't understand is why people down vote to an answer/question without explaning the reason for down votes to them, For example in this ell.stackexchange.com/questions/108085/…
I would think ELL Website should provide the option in downvote buttom the reason for down votes In the same way as it provides option in closing an questions, otherwise Voter should put their comments explaning the reason for down votes
M.A.R.
M.A.R.

Why downvotes shouldn't be obligatory; side comments

Oct 18 at 16:49, 56 minutes total – 248 messages, 5 users, 1 star

Bookmarked Oct 18 at 17:50 by M.A.R.

Man_From_India
Man_From_India
14:01
@Araucaria yes I already read it, it's a nice answer.
yubraj sharma
yubraj sharma
I have also read it
Araucaria
Araucaria
14:27
4
Q: Is "she don't" sometimes considered correct form?

IndustriousRecently I was exposed to a lot of uses of "She don't + infinitive" (3rd person singular + don't), instead of "she doesn't + infinitive" (3rd person singular + doesn't). I'm not sure if it is a mistake or just accepted usage sometimes. I found it in a very famous songs such as: "She don't kno...

auxiliary-verbs third-person third-person-singular
@snailplane, @ColleenV Would it be possible to close those other questions and link them to this page? Andrew's answer should be considered a canonical answer, imo.
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
14:44
I have a headache. I don't know if it is stress or something I ate. I better lie down.
Anonymous
14:56
@Araucaria Oh, yes, I actually had that in mind when I first read the question, but I forgot by the time it came up in chat again . . .
Anonymous
@Araucaria Yes, we can do that :-)
Araucaria
Araucaria
@snailplane Would be good if it's doable :)
@snailplane Grand :)
Anonymous
@M.A.R. People can spell my name however they want, I don't mind :-)
Anonymous
I tried putting a space in my name to make it less, um, cognitively taxing? for learners, but I'm not sure it really helped. I ended up putting it back this way.
Anonymous
I have noticed people have some trouble with it, so I've thought about changing it now and then. I don't know what to, though.
Anonymous
15:02
Maybe just "snail" :-)
ColleenV
ColleenV
@snailplane SCarGo?
Anonymous
Ha
Anonymous
Well, I don't want to keep changing my name on people. That's confusing, too :-)
ColleenV
ColleenV
True.
@yubrajsharma I think it is an interesting idea to allow some optional "canned" reasons for the downvote.
Anonymous
Aww, Jim Reynolds isn't pingable.
Anonymous
15:09
Oh, ELL is fun today.
ColleenV
ColleenV
I'm trying to have fun, but I'm home sick with a terrible headache so it makes it difficult to think straight.
Anonymous
Ah, I have my own reasons why my brain might be on backwards today :-)
ColleenV
ColleenV
So I'm searching meta to see if anyone has suggested that there be some pre-written easy to choose downvote feedback when you click the button...
Anonymous
Yeah, unfortunately, that sort of suggestion gets made all the time, but it always gets shot down.
ColleenV
ColleenV
@snailplane I like that expression, I'm going to steal it and use it without attribution :)
Anonymous
15:16
It's one of the most common topics on the network-wide meta.
Anonymous
@Araucaria We have more duplicates, too!
Anonymous
4
Q: What is the purpose of using "don't" instead of "doesn't" in this phrase: "But she don't know you like I know you Slim"

user31782I was listening to Eminem's song Stan. I noticed in one verse he says: But she don't know you like I know you Slim... At first I didn't believe my ears, but when I read out the lyrics I got astonished. I further searched on Google and found on some other forums that this type of incor...

subject-verb-agreement lyrics dialect
Anonymous
2
Q: Heart {Don't / Doesn't} Lie

armyI just have heard a song "Heart Don't Lie". And I'm curious to know, how has it used? grammatically. "Heart Don't Lie" "Heart Doesn't Lie."

sentence-construction conjugations
Anonymous
Is this one a duplicate?
Anonymous
1
Q: Using 'she don't care' in The Beatles' song 'Ticket to Ride'

Nina She's got a ticket to ride, She's got a ticket to ride, She's got a ticket to ride, But she don't care. It sounded odd to me. So why is it used that way?

word-usage negation informal-english lyrics dialect
ColleenV
ColleenV
15:29
When the titles are descriptive, the "related questions" seems to do a pretty good job
Araucaria
Araucaria
@snailplane Wow, it's obviously confusing lots of learners!
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
15:58
@Araucaria though I agree with your answer, I have a question in mind. OP apparently tried to use a free choice construction. But my question is whether we can use an embedded interrogative clause in free choice construction.
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
16:09
@snailplane recommend me some good classic novel (to read).
Araucaria
Araucaria
16:22
@Man_From_India MFI I'm not absolutely sure. It certainly seems to be restricted: "It doesn't matter whichever ones you choose" doesn't seem very good to me.
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
@Araucaria I agree
Araucaria
Araucaria
It's an interesting question ...
Arrowfar
Arrowfar
@snailplane Speaking of which I liked your previous name “snailboat” much better. This one is nice too. Btw why did you change it?
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
16:40
@Araucaria i have to read CGEL more about it. But I haven't yet found anything relevant there as yet.
Araucaria
Araucaria
@Man_From_India I think I read somewhere that they say free choice ever doesn't occur in interrogatives. But I don't think that's correct, though.
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
@Araucaria I also think it may be possible. But still it's rare.
Do we say whichever ones do you choose?
Anonymous
17:19
@Arrowfar I changed it because some people in the EL&U chat room wondered what my name meant, and someone looked it up on Urban Dictionary, which had a crude sexual meaning for it, so I didn't feel comfortable using that name anymore.
Anonymous
But I thought it was cuter.
Anonymous
@Arrowfar The Princess Bride
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
17:31
The Zipf Mystery
►
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
17:52
Hello, My name is Inigo Montoya....
►
Anonymous
Yay
Anonymous
@CowperKettle Szia!
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
@snailplane Szia, Ulitka!
Kaliforniyskaya Ulitka
Ulitochka, rather
(hypocoristic)
lurk mode on
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
18:23
Argh! Szia is in!
@snailplane I'd like to propose another vehicle name: snailtuktuk (^_^)
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
@snailplane Nobody but odd people would pay attention to a meaning crafted by a UD contributor and really having no currency (not used by anybody)
Anonymous
Are there any vehicles cuter than sailboats?
Anonymous
That's a question for Vehicle Cuteness Stack Exchange (beta).
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
I over-read biotech. When I read "vehicle" I imagine some fluid used to contain a medicinal drug.
Anonymous
Hah.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
18:31
Really
0.9% normal saline vehicle
or something like that
Good night!
Anonymous
For delivery of medicinal mollusca.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@CowperKettle Good night!
V.V.
V.V.
18:51
Good evening.
And morning .
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
> If the manufacturer chooses to use serum that has not been inactivated, thorough testing of the serum for adventitious agents, using current best practices, should be undertaken. (WHO Sixty-First Report)
Why is it without the?
Good midnight, @V.V.!
Although it is only 22:00 in your city
V.V.
V.V.
19:10
Enjoying suspension on R SE.
V.V.
V.V.
19:22
You have only to look at the knuckle of the third finger of his left hand to see him as he is. What can be there, a ring?
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Good meta post.
Stack Exchange
Stack Exchange
19:41
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Rathony
Rathony
19:54
@Araucaria I think we need to talk. Can you visit the ELU Review chat room?
Rathony
Rathony
20:43
@ColleenV One thing I'd like to advise you is Don't jump to conclusions yourself.
@Araucaria Let's talk about it later. Nothing very urgent. See ya.
Anonymous
20:59
@M.A.R. Sometimes people just click the wrong thing, even after they take the time to check.
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
+1 for prescriptive language. When learning another language, one should always learn the conventional grammar, especially verb conjugations and agreement. This is because when you learn a language, you should be learning a system so that you understand how the language works, not just arbitrary phrases. Vernacular should be learned too, but with the understanding that it bends/breaks the rules of the system, and why. Without prescriptive language, vernacular means learning more than one way of saying something without understanding why. Whether it's "correct" will always be debated. — automaton 4 hours ago
o_O
So we should learn the prescriptive version of the language when we learn a second language?
Most of the learners want to learn standard English but not any dialect which is not common everywhere. — గణేష్ రెడ్డి 56 mins ago
I suppose they want a shrinkwrap version when they learn a language just to get by.
Maximum results with minimum effort. That sort of thing.
Araucaria
Araucaria
21:22
@Rathony Hi Rathony, I'm around if you are (trying to work on my PhD in the pub). Sorry I missed you earlier.
 
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Cardinal
Cardinal
22:41
There are so many "informal" bags! {bag as a verb}

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