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16:00
@user62015 Oh, so by it making you mad, you meant you were having a good time? :-)
@DamkerngT. Do you think there can be any logic behind these nonsense answers?
@user62015 I love that author.
@DamkerngT. Yes, I though whatever I know that is not enough to face these kinds of exams. And the answer was looking very easy.
@user62015 There is one logic. The author is selfless. . .
@DamkerngT. I am serious, I think I should post on this website and write down the complete story so maybe someone had faced this type of problem in the past and has some logic to face them.
16:04
Fun fact: A fly sat on my screen; I thought SE was doing something to chat.
@user62015 Do it; but try to make the question as plausible as possible.
Don't reveal the idiot thinks the answer is B until the last paragraph of your answer.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Sure.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I'd rather not encourage anyone to write such a post.
But everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M @DamkerngT. I will post it soon and let people answer it.
So is the site as a whole.
@DamkerngT. Yes @Dam; I'm saying if he's dying to do it, so be it.
But it must look as legit as any other question.
16:07
@DamkerngT. I need to know how he can play with my emotions, or maybe he has some reasons.
Like for example, it shouldn't begin like The author says it's B but why?
One thing I've observed is that regular folks on ELL aren't fond of nitpicking or peeving.
But who knows? :-) Everyone is different, and the site seems to have its own mood too.
@DamkerngT. And yet they nitpick.
They nitpick to make things right.
Yes, and then nag about it.
16:09
But a question that comes from an angle that wants to nitpick someone or something is usually not received well.
Hmm.
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Q: What is the difference between "see something closely" and "see something up close"?

user5036 Much of what Maccari put on the runway might actually have been better appreciated in a more intimate setting where audience members are able to put their hands on the fabric, see the details up close . But putting Perry Ellis on the runway during the inaugural season of New York Fashion Week:...

VTC needed.
Foof I gave up on that chem question. I think our Nicolau will handle it well, and I shot my comment:
That is an if clause, not an assertion. Regarding your question, I suspect along with the incomplete descriptions they give because of these noble metals' inertness, it's because they can adsorb hydrogen and oxygen quite easily and efficiently, and that may be because of their porosity. This is a Q/A, so unless the answer is backed up with lots of proofs and is usually scientifically correct, we won't bother you with sheer out-of-stomach opinions. That's why you see this different than forums. — inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 20 mins ago
@Dam I think I'm in the mood of answering something on ELL.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ELL: Yay!
Now what to answer. . . What to answer. . .
I still want to push the number of my tabs down to 1800 first.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 3% unanswered shouldn't be a problem to find something you want.
Bah, 105% of that will be LeP's questions.
Downvote whinge of the day:
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Q: unfairness in stack exchange sites?

tristoBefore you continue reading, I will be suprised if you can give a reasonable answer to this question, that supports the moderators over at stack overflow ok I admit, I'm not an expert on stack exchange websites. Though I've noticed some unfairness in stack exchange this question http://stackove...

(With screenies, bold stuff, name calling and extra sauce)
16:22
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Q: "develop" in passive sentence

cagdasMy original statement was The data that can be easily gathered from mobile devices open new research opportunities which could not be possible to be developed with existing built-in systems. A native speaker corrected this to The data that can be easily gathered from mobile devices can...

Reloads keyboard Let's see what we got here. Cracks knuckles
Bah. . .
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because as @apsillers observes the word to has been omitted -- probably a typo, but certainly an error. — StoneyB Jul 14 at 18:22
Check out revision 1 and revision 3.
Oh. . .
That's because of the nature of the word develop I reckon.
Some verbs just are really rare in their passive forms.
16:26
Though I think the sentence reads better without develop.
You mean with the omitting of that entire clause?
Just drop the develop, and maybe use open up instead of open.
> The data that can be easily gathered from mobile devices can open up new research opportunities which would not have been possible DEVELOP with existing built-in systems.
2
Q: Is this sentence in a passive form

Amisha  JI'm not interested in you. I'm interested in you. is this in passive form if not Please explain me what structure it is following.

Squinting is the answer correct there?
A lot of answers on ELL aren't really correct.
A lot of answers with a lot of up-votes on ELL aren't really correct.
16:38
A lot of answers on SE by high-rep users aren't really correct.
You're lucky to find one today. :-)
God bless answers by users like me.
> "Use clues in the sentence and paragraph to help decide which tense to use."
Read "don't use your common sense".
I won't.
Hmm, let me think. This use of develop is a without-object use here, right?
Develop needs an object, I think.
It (that) wouldn't be possible to develop without this.
@DamkerngT. Where's the object here?
In other words, is this an intransitive develop?
16:46
> We want to develop it.
> It's possible to develop it.
> It's not possible to develop it.
Right.
Too much languagy thinking got me mixed up.
However, develop can be intransitive, too.
Which means, basically, "to grow".
Well, I think it's the inTr use here.
16:48
So, it's a bit ambiguous. (Which is why I think the sentence would be better without develop.)
nods
Basically, the sentence (clause) wants to say "X can open opportunities which wouldn't've been possible to develop without Y".
@DamkerngT. How? Develop: to come gradually into existence or operation; be evolved.
Now, what does that mean?
To come to existence.
My alternative: "X can open (up) opportunities which wouldn't've been possible (at all) without Y".
Maybe X and Y are the same thing.
Oh, they used them differently, X and Y.
That's a cute edible adorable alternative, but I'm trying to help the OP achieve it by not omitting it. However, I'll note that they can save themselves some trouble.
16:52
nods -- reading "develop" as "to grow" or "to evolve" is possible too, imo.
Ah, I can recall now.
The main reason I suggested my alternative that way was because the OP originally used develop in the passive voice.
BTW I'll get to answering it after I'm done with these sour cherries.
Never tried sour cherries here!
Okie dokie cracks knuckles
17:06
> Chances are you don’t—speak Esperanto, that is. But a few readers of the last two columns—about the quandary of Europe’s multilingualism, and why enforcing English throughout Europe was a flawed idea—made the case for Esperanto. At a time when ever more countries need to communicate with one another, why shouldn’t Europe, or the world, embrace the simple international language invented by Ludwig Zamenhof in 1887?
Well...
I propose we speak Na'vi.
:D
Considering the movie's popularity and the number of viewers (approaching a billion?), many of us have already heard of and have already heard Na'vi.
So, Kaltxì!
(By the way, I approve any invented language that makes it difficult for everyone of us, not only non-Europeans alone.)
@DamkerngT. @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Could I post a question here?
If it's about language or language learning. :-)
What's the question?
That house (a)/is built of (b)/ stones. (c)/
No error(d)
It says the option C has the error, but I am not able to understand what error it has?
17:21
That house is (a), right?
To understand the question, you'll need to know the phrase be built of and the countability of stone.
But what problem this word "stones" has?
Though stone can be used as either a countable or an uncountable noun, you need to know when to use which.
When it's used as material, it's uncountable.
Okay. You made sense, thank you so much.
17:24
Welcome!
59. There is no possibility of______coming late.
(a) they (b) their
(c) them (d) theirs
@DamkerngT. Which one will you choose?
@user62015 He made sense? Oh no. . .
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M He did!
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M You can also do that -:)
@user62015 @Dam would choose b.
@user62015 In my idiolect-- yeah, @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M knows me well. :-)
17:30
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M See! You also did that.
oh...I see! @TRomano unfortunately have never come across such things in Indian newspapers! My bad! — Maulik V 13 hours ago
Oh, so there is no such thing in Indian English?
@MaulikV [ "You're dirty," he said. "You ought to wash. Where did you go and what did you do? Tell me everything at once." ] Who would you think said "You ought to wash. ... Tell me everything at once."? — Damkerng T. yesterday
I wonder if all Indian writers never did that before.
And always wrote this instead:
> "You're dirty," he said. "You ought to wash. Where did you go and what did you do? Tell me everything at once," he said/continued/demanded/etc.
@Dam with some delays and playing with my little brother and saying my prayers and etc. I finally posted my answer.
Could you take a look at it for me, to make sure I haven't made funny typos?
Well, reading ELL questions/answers is my regular activity. :D
17:41
Though I worry I might have over-formatted it a bit.
It's looks too much formatted!
I think the OP can still argue that develop being used in the passive voice makes enough sense.
Not sure about their first language, but
Let's see if they argue.
Man when was the last time I saw that ?
Today.
But whatever.
iirc I think in several Asian languages, it makes sense to say "the opportunities were possible to be developed", as well as "the opportunities were possible to develop".
(As well as "It's possible for us to develop the opportunities.")
Yes, it also makes sense in Persian, but not in Turkish.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M <grin>
Really they're all awkward. "The washing-up" sounds strange to me. — DJ McMayhem 21 secs ago
LOL!
Anonymous
17:55
@DamkerngT. Good morning! I'm awake now.
@snailboat Good morning for your being awake!
Good waking up!
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Can we wake down?
I can.
Wakes down
zzz...
17:58
@snail I wrote an answer.
Kinda priceless.
I should be writing answers more often.
Says to himself for the 1454213345334234'th time
Wondering if that's a prime number...
@DamkerngT. That's an even number.
Oh, its last digit is 4, so not a prime number, sadly...
2^2016 - 1 is a prime number. There you go.
Now give me something else to answer ugly please?
Interesting that we can make a prime number with that.
18:02
It was a formula.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I don't remember math formulas.
Mersen's formula or sth like that. (Dunno the English spelling)
@DamkerngT. You shouldn't. It's really obscure.
Oh, wait. ..
Here's the largest ever prime number: 2^57,885,161 − 1
The formula stated: 2^n - 1 is prime if n is prime.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Ever?
@DamkerngT. Yes.
It's hard to believe-- Oh, with that formula.
18:05
Actually, the one that has been proved to be prime.
Ugh! I think I just ate my own hair!
I wonder how many hairs I've eaten my whole life.
Anonymous
Eating hair is bad.
@Dam the founder of that formula said I know how to prove it, but there's so little space here I can't. So the formula goes unproven.
Anonymous
It should be okay in small quantities though :-)
@snailboat Indeed!
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Maybe it's more like a conjecture, perhaps?
18:07
So, they've tested it, and that number is the highest that's proven to be prime.
Using that formula.
@DamkerngT. It's so probable they didn't know how to.
The history of mathematics is full of these people saying exactly that.
I love something simple, like a^2 + b^2 = c^2. :-)
Is that simple?
Have you seen how they prove that using matrices?
Should look simple enough, at first glance.
Did they have to use matrices to prove that? -- curious
18:10
Of all the geometry, I love 1)spheres 2)triangles and 3)squares the most.
I love spheres too!
They're very interesting.
nods -- Spheres look all the same from any angle.
@DamkerngT. I livez to answer the unanswered.
@DamkerngT. Which leads to exciting magnetic and electric properties.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I mentioned that question 'cause I guess that if you posted your answer and it got an up-vote quickly, it would make it a HNQ.
18:14
I still favor it when the question is gonna get my answer as its first.
I see. :D
Bah, I wanted to answer the newest incoming question. . .What the heck!
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Q: can use word *Lost* As Verb

user4084Can we use word Lost as Verb? Like below sentence "Oh I think we have lost in the Jungle" "Oh I think we are lost in the jungle"

:'O
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I wish they would've consulted dictionaries first.
Yeah, sad.
@DamkerngT. Makes me wonder. . .Do they even have any idea of tenses?
18:29
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I think they have some ideas, though obviously not solid enough.
I wouldn't blame it on the learners; it's the materials.
@DamkerngT. What's that semicolon?
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I'm on another machine now. Somehow some keystrokes didn't work properly.
Time machine?
Anonymous
You can use a semicolon there if you really want to :-)
Anonymous
18:35
Kinda highfalutin. But hey, I use semicolons, too. I probably overuse them!
Anonymous
(There are some people who think any use of semicolons is overuse!)
Anonymous
There's a Japanese game called Steins;Gate
I'm back at my usual machine. It looks different!
Anonymous
18:36
They stuck the semicolon between two random words!
I think I wouldn't've used the semicolon there if I'd typed it from this machine.
Anonymous
I bought a 3DS. Now I can play video games.
@snailboat Yay!
@snailboat Nintendo's?
@snailboat Semicolon Rights Violation Code 0XFFFFD.
Anonymous
18:37
@DamkerngT. Yes, a Nintendo 3DS
Oh, the handheld one!
Anonymous
Yep!
Have fun! :-)
Anonymous
I'm going to play 極限脱出〜善人シボウデス〜!
Are there any games come with the 3DS?
Anonymous
18:38
I dunno! :-)
Anonymous
Doesn't seem like it.
Anonymous
It has some built in thingies.
Anonymous
It's been quite a while since I bought something like this!
"Extreme Escape Adventure: Good People Die" -- LOL!
Anonymous
Haha, pretty much!
18:39
Oh, no! (for the Good People)
Anonymous
Oh, I left out the ADV part!
Anonymous
The English version is poetically titled "Virtue's Last Reward"
@DamkerngT. Is that Japanese? Why am I not surprised. . .
Anonymous
I got a Japanese 3DS, so it can only play Japanese games.
Anonymous
18:40
The 3D thingy really works!!
Anonymous
There's a little slider so you can turn it off if you don't like it.
Anonymous
I love autostereoscopy.
Somehow that reminds me spectroscopy.
@snailboat Glasses are not needed?
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Glasses are not needed.
18:41
NMR stuff - Sweet!
Anonymous
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Probably because of scope and -y.
Yay! That's a big plus!
Anonymous
I don't like wearing special glasses.
Anonymous
It's enough for me wearing the glasses I've already got. :-)
Anonymous
18:42
My eyes aren't the best ever.
@snailboat Even in a lab?
Wearing a white overall?
Anonymous
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I don't like wearing safety goggles, no. I wouldn't do it for fun.
Anonymous
Lab coats are fun, though.
I still don't know how they do it, the 3D on 3DS.
Anonymous
Look up autostereoscopy.
Anonymous
18:42
Parallax barriers.
Another reviewer - Whee!
I don't have to do any weird stuff with my eyes, I suppose.
Anonymous
It's an 800x240 display, but only every other column reaches each eye.
Anonymous
So it's 400x240 per eye, with barriers blocking the light from half of the columns to each eye.
(Like trying to get my left eye focusing on something way right, and my right eye way left.)
Anonymous
18:43
You don't have to do that.
Anonymous
All you have to do is have your head in approximately the right position.
Sounds great!
Anonymous
A parallax barrier is a device placed in front of an image source, such as a liquid crystal display, to allow it to show a stereoscopic image or multiscopic image without the need for the viewer to wear 3D glasses. Placed in front of the normal LCD, it consists of a layer of material with a series of precision slits, allowing each eye to see a different set of pixels, so creating a sense of depth through parallax in an effect similar to what lenticular printing produces for printed products and lenticular lenses for other displays. A disadvantage of the technology is that the viewer must be...
Anonymous
Now I just need to get an exercise bike so I can sit around playing video games :-)
Truly a modern marvel!
@snailboat Eeps! Oh, your bike is in the room. :-)
Anonymous
18:45
A stationary bike.
19:17
@Dam I just found the most sophisticated interrogatory sentence ever:
> Can I close my question only the answer remaining on the page that voters could not vote on the post?
I wonder if it's grammatical.
But why would someone want anything like that?
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Q: Can I close my question after I accept?

Bhojendra NepalCan I close my question only the answer remaining on the page that voters could not vote on the post?

Because they're a possible jerk or are worried 'bout the downvotes?
Anonymous
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Sophisticated in the many ways it's ungrammatical!
19:22
@snailboat Yeah hehe!
It has some 5 objects.
Only looks like a conjunction in there.
So I guess that only can work as a conjunction in another language.
Hehe you robots! You have to analyze everything!
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I can't help it; it's built-in. :P
Oh, only can work as a conjunction in English too.
> You can come, only make sure you’re on time.
Not something I see every day.
That's creepy, if not ungrammatical.
o/ @Nathan!
Oh, he can't talk.
@Dam, if you don't mind. . .
He can, if he wants to.
Anonymous
19:31
wants
Ah, yes. My bad! :-)
Welcome to the room! @NathanTuggy
@DamkerngT. Thanks! :)
Welcome! :D
@NathanTuggy Fighter jets.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Fighter jets?
19:38
@DamkerngT. In response to tanks.
Hah! -- LOL
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Heh
Hush now, @snail's class begins in the other room.
My man look at the URL of that question! http://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/62135/how-to-distinguishcostfromprice
Perhaps I've answered something similar to that once. Hmm...
Oh, my answer was about buy.
I still think maybe we already have a similar question (to cost vs. price).
Name of the Day: Kincaid
How should I pronounce that? "kin-kade"?
19:55
@DamkerngT. A little more like "king-kade", but yes.
Ah, thanks!
@NathanTuggy Oh, the eta!
Or maybe it wasn't eta.
Was it?
It wasn't.
It was.
O.o
20:14
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Q: ask for new chalanges

D.BI've made a sentence: I wouldn't grow in my career if I didn't continuosly ask myself for new challanges. I tried to say that the fact I found a new chalange everytime I've done with the current one gave me opportnities to grow in my carrer. Does it sound OK?

Some people just loooove changing usernames.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M it's only mods that can directly see old usernames, right?
I think yes, I dunno if they can do that.
I can't remember the old name, but it was like a full name, iirc.
Well, I know I've seen my own recent username changes, and since that's not something that I need, I assume it's a highly privileged view
@DamkerngT. Yeah, I've seen some of their questions recently but can't really remember the old name either....
Anonymous
It used to say Dmitry Bundin
20:17
@DamkerngT. Dimitry B-something.
Yeah, that.
Anonymous
(Information gathered using non-moderator powers.)
Vehicles aren't mortals, if not moderators.
Anonymous
I originally signed up with my real full name, but I decided to switch to snailplane, and then to snailboat. :-)
Now I'm stuck in the past trying to summon her real name.
Anonymous
20:19
My real name is Crystal.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Good luck, it's probably been PURGED WITH FIRE
... or maybe not
Anonymous
But you can call me Snails.
To quote our San:
in The Periodic Table, Jun 9 at 9:49, by santiago
Horatio Bobalinquin Sasquatch MacHinery Dura-dura Smith
Unrelatedly, it is extremely weird to see such a high (i.e., aggregated) number for rep under my own name...
@NathanTuggy That's my rep, mistakenly taken as yours.
Anonymous
20:22
Yeah, it's weird seeing 52.5k under my name. The most rep I have anywhere is like 20k.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Well, we're not off by much, eh?
@snailboat Exactly!
I haz moar badges.
Anonymous
The same aggregate number shows up when you sign up for a site on Area 51:
Anonymous
52
Korean Language and Usage

Proposed Q&A site for enthusiasts and experts of Korean Language, expats,and anyone interested in learning about Korean language, grammar and culture. 한국어와 이용 한국 열혈팬, 한국어 전문가 한국어 또는 한국어 문법, 한국 문화를 배우고 싶어 하는 누구나를 위하여 Q&A site에 제안되었습니다. 좋아하는 질문들에 upvote 해 주시기 바랍니다.

Currently in commitment.

@snailboat There it almost makes more sense, as A51 is about nothing but expanding the network
Anonymous
20:25
Chat is kinda SE-wide. It's a little odd for me.
Anonymous
Since I'm a moderator on Japanese.SE, I'm technically a moderator on all of SE chat.
Anonymous
So my name is blue.
Anonymous
But I really just want to chat :-)
Anonymous
I only want to do moderatorly things on Japanese.SE.
Yeah, I get the technical reasons but it's pretty confusing from even a power user perspective that there are exactly three chats... SE, SO, and MSE. Because reasons?
Anonymous
20:26
That's weird, too.
Anonymous
Once you hit 10k rep in chat, you start getting chat flags, too.
Anonymous
And that's especially weird.
I've seen a few of the MSE questions about "what do I do with chat flags for XYZ random room on the other side of the network?" and such, yeah...
... huh, I'm halfway there
@NathanTuggy When you get network-wide, there's almost nothing that isn't for God's sake a mess.
/me zzz. Later people!
@snailboat It's particularly weird when the flagged message is not English!
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Later!

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