The Dangerously Elite

Rapitor

00:10

poor pirate... he was actually afraid of me

still blew him up tho

Rapitor

00:27

wow. looking over Hudson's control tab. he is screwed

so many undermind and even quite a it going into turmoil

Winters is a very similar

Patreus and Torval are taking the brunt of their undermining efforts it looks like, the Duvals are mostly untouched

Yuuki

01:05

@Rapitor So you're out of luck if it's shielded?

Rapitor

@Yuuki if it's shielded you have to attack them to bring the shields down, which gives you a bounty and bad things

firing off the hatch breaker is legal... apparently

i used this guide

Yuuki

@Rapitor Deriving from the landmark precedent in Rutherford v. Hayes, where Chief Justice Einstein gave the majority opinion that only idiots fly without shields and deserve everything that happens to them.

Rapitor

NPCs don't know any better

Yuuki

Bleh, so many edits.

Rapitor

I want to get more merit points... but there is literally nothing that needs doing..

Yuuki

01:15

So, short of hatch breaking unshielded transport ships, undermining will always put a bounty on your head?

Rapitor

yeah, but remember. bounties aren't global anymore they are oly system wide

now, if an imperial police scans you and notices you have federal bounties... i have no idea how they'll respond

Yuuki

Sounds like something to be scienced.

I should ask that as well.

Stack Exchange

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Q: How do faction bounties work?

Now that bounties are system-wide rather than global, what happens if you get scanned by Imperial police while having a Federal bounties (from attacking ships in Federation space and etc.) or vice-versa? Does the police ship just let you go or are you attacked?

elite-dangerous

Unionhawk

01:47

I'm glad my ship is so heat resistant I can emergency stop on accident without taking damage

Rapitor

The Nunus system is being sneakily undermined, keep an eye on it.

i have no idea why as that system isn't bordering anyone

Unionhawk

02:11

How are 2 dudes from archon pirate king not wanted for more than just assaulting me

I don't get it

Whatever

Unionhawk

02:38

@Rapitor Nunus and Yupini are at 100% undermine

Rapitor

right, but we should keep an eye on them so they don't sneak the undermine over the fortify

Unionhawk

Do you have to get fortify stuff from HQ?

@Yuuki Firing hatch breakers is illegal

It's assault

Rapitor

@Unionhawk yeah.

Unionhawk

@Rapitor That's why that system may be in trouble

Rapitor

i mean, we can easily afford if both those systems go into turmoil... but it would still be not good

Unionhawk

02:42

It'll be hard to upkeep without asps

@Rapitor Eh...

Nunus is already only 16 profit

Increased upkeep there would not be good

Rapitor

it's less CC for the next cycle to use on prep

Unionhawk

True, but, even still

Increased upkeep would probably put it in the negative

Rapitor

so you think we should just ignore it and let it fall? as it's too far from HQ and not really near anyone

Unionhawk

I think we should monitor it, but, I mean, it's 120 LYA.

We could monitor it in open and see what's up, but I'd want at least a coordinated posse for that

Rapitor

i'd think most underminers would just work in solo. much less risk of interference

as much as i prefer and enjoy solo. I don't think solo being able to influence powers is right

Unionhawk

03:02

mreh maybe

Rapitor

well.. to an extent

Unionhawk

Never-ending party at Hudson's

►

Rapitor

I am glad he's at least an empire alliance.

Unionhawk

He's an insanely good pilot

"Oh whoops wrong message I'm not a pirate anymore"

xD

(he accidentally hit the bind for his "STOP RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE comply or die" message instead of "Hi from Senator Patreus.")

Yeah, /r/ElitePatreus and /r/EliteAisling are on board with vs Hudson

Rapitor

03:18

Look at the picture i posted earlier, Hudson is already sufficiently wrecked.

unfortuneatly.. patreus was undermined just as hard...

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Yeah... this is why I'm going solo until I finish my Courier.

Unionhawk

@Yuuki Do you work for Hudson?

Then you're perfectly safe

Yuuki

@Unionhawk No.

I'm thinking Aisling.

At least until I get my hands on those shields.

Rapitor

I kind of think we should do what we can to help out Patreus. he seems to be on the frontlines of the Vs. federation

Unionhawk

1000% safe

Rapitor

03:21

@Yuuki have to be rank 3 for 4 weeks.

Yuuki

@Rapitor So it'll be awhile.

Rapitor

yeah

i want the shields too... but... Arissa is much more beneficial to my playstyle

Unionhawk

Yes

Bangfish has to have a HOTAS

Yuuki

Hmm... you think ED Support might change my CMDR name if I send a support ticket?

Unionhawk

Maybe

Worth a try

Rapitor

03:24

@Unionhawk yeah, you can tell because his throttle bar moves really quickly

Yuuki

Wish the Diamondback Explorer wasn't that garish bright yellow color.

A nice burnt orange would be acceptable.

If it wasn't for the color, I might consider the Diamondback over the Courier.

Rapitor

you never even see your ship.

Yuuki

Still kinda fugly.

Hmm... the Scout is a nice price point.

Maybe I'll trade my Adder in for that and use the Scout until I make enough money for the Courier.

Unionhawk

Remember, internal compartments are a thing to consider

Scout has no cargo, basically

Rapitor

scout has diddly

Unionhawk

03:39

Like, it has 2 class 3 and a class 1 or something stupid

Rapitor

both of the diamondbacks are pretty much meant for earlygame exploring, but they can put up a fight if they need to.

Unionhawk

Meh, it's pretty paper relative to large lazers

Maybe viper resilience

Little more armor

Rapitor

large lazers are powerful against pretty much everything tho

Unionhawk

Don't have numbers in front of me

@Rapitor yeah, well guess what, NPCs are packing vultures more now

Rapitor

if the armor gets annoying just target powerplant, done

Unionhawk

03:42

You got about the same dps as a laser asp based on the numbers I pulled out of my butt

(someone did actual science on this)

(I am too tired to find it)

Also the butt numbers consider only small ships

Since large lasers don't have a damage penalty against medium and large ships

Rapitor

13:14

FD really needs to add like a Power chat or something.

it could probably fill up with spam, but at least an ingame way of communinicating with everyone would be neat.

Unionhawk

Sure, or, allowing the community to subreddit is also pretty effective

And doesn't cost them anything

It's a good thing you need rank to suggest things or else this would be a game of goddamn stackegg

Rapitor

not everyone uses reddit

Unionhawk

Sure

But alot of people do

An alot of people uses reddit

No?

Yeah you're right

Rapitor

to avoid spam or spies they could just have it as only rank 2+ can use power chat

Unionhawk

Sure

Ooo

Now I want this

Rapitor

13:21

"We'll be running through the Powerplay basics on our stream tonight - join us at 6PM BST at twitch.tv/elitedangerous"

from their facebook.

Unionhawk

So that's...

thinks

Rapitor

1pm est

Unionhawk

FUCK

WHY

dammit

Rapitor

because fuck you i guess?

what's wrong with 1pm

Unionhawk

Uh, falls within 8am-4:45pm?

Twitch VODs also suck

Like, really suck

Tim Stone

16:07

1.3.02 Patch Notes

(nothing particularly interesting, mostly glitchy-type bug fixes)

Unionhawk

POWAH

:D

Tim Stone

Unfortunately this means the servers are down so I guess I'll actually have to do work or something

Unionhawk

RIP @TimStone

Tim Stone

:(

Rapitor

16:32

I'm pretty pleased with the RES fix and power insurance.

Unionhawk

16:48

One of you find an exploited system with a good RES

Preferably lower security

Winner gets a cargo hold full of palladium or whatever is expensive

Criteria: low security with pirates

Can also be uncontrolled but nearish

Rapitor

why low security?

Unionhawk

More shit

High security means less stuff

Rapitor

low security just means less security ships.. which is bad, as they are super helpful

Unionhawk

Hmm

Rapitor

pirates are idiots, they'll try to scan and pirate you, a fully combat oriented vulture, in an unshielded sidewinder

Unionhawk

16:51

Fine, a system with decent pirate influence

Rapitor

can you get into archenar?

try there

Unionhawk

I can, is there pirates?

I'm used to AE levels where pirate influence is >15%

Though I did become hostile with them

So...

That was fun times

Rapitor

i didn't really notice a difference with influences.

Unionhawk

There's a difference.

Maybe not significant

But it is real

A high intensity RES may be sufficient now

I want the money to build up a fleet of stuff containing only the fanciest ships (because I can't find a damn cobra)

Rapitor

prepare to hate me some more then, because... Facece

actually.. isn't cobra super common?

Unionhawk

17:00

It should be, yes

I thought all stations stocked it

I am apparently wrong

So far of 2 systems I've checked, neither have cobra

Including HQ

HQ stocks FDL, though, for eventually

Then again, Facece probably does too

I kind of want to set up shop in HQ

So I may end up needing to ferry myself with a sidey

Or just do it with an eagle because it's not that much more

Rapitor

17:16

HQ didn't seem like it had anything of value.

Unionhawk

It's an agricultural system

Rapitor

military and high tech systems is where all the goodies are

Unionhawk

ye

I should get to earl

ughhh

UGH

Rapitor

you should get to count.

Unionhawk

hgu'

Count

Yes

One dead fed

ah ha ha

two dead fed

ah ha ha

Tim Stone

17:17

@Unionhawk Yeah, kind of a shame our alignment gives us increased bounty payout but also more security. I think that's only in controlled systems though? So there's that.

Unionhawk

@TimStone Ye

Rapitor

@TimStone controlled system is double bounty, exploited is only +20%

Unionhawk

Wait, double?

DOUBLE????????

WHAT????????????

is this real life

Rapitor

double + the 20%

Unionhawk

I interpreted that as fines against you are double

Like, you shoot a cop, that's an 800 credit bounty

Rapitor

17:22

it could be, but that also means the bounties are double too

Unionhawk

Not necessarily

NPCs are just assigned a bounty value typically

We'll see, we can science

But I doubt it

Unless... iunno

Rapitor

you may be right, it is worth science tho

Yuuki

18:18

I feel that has to be the case. Double bounty value is just ridiculous.

Rapitor

yeah, probably. it still helps against NPC bounty hunters as they usually attack clean targets and get a bounty on themselves

Yuuki

I'm not sure if it applies to NPCs though.

Rapitor

i don't see why not

Unionhawk

Yeah, okay, so for those dudes, the bouty goes to 800 cr

great

Rapitor

more

let them kill the target

Unionhawk

18:28

NPCs don't kill targets.

They aren't that good

Rapitor

you can help them by ramming

Unionhawk

That sounds like

Way too much work

For maybe up to around 10 kcr

Rapitor

meh

Rapitor

18:47

I'm looking forward to hear how galnet will report the end of cycle.

"federation got fuct".

Yuuki

> [x] Rekt
> [ ] Not Rekt
> [x] Tyrannosaurus Rekt
> [x] Rektified

Rapitor

21:41

hm, it's been prettymuch a whole day and Nunus and Yupini hasn't been undermined anymore. Guess it was justa one and done thing

Tim Stone

23:50

Heh, went to one of the pirate lord's systems and got killed by a player

Probably should have opted to fight instead of trying to run, since their Python prevented me from jumping quickly

Well plus I fought the interdiction, which was a dumb decision

Yuuki

Do you take less damage if you just turn your ship around and face the interdiction?

I never figured out the mechanics of it.

Since it never really happened to me.

Tim Stone

If you throttle zero you don't emergency drop

So you don't have that max FSD cooldown that comes with it, or the spinny ship

Yuuki

If you're about to lose the interdiction, can you immediately drop throttle to avoid penalties?

Tim Stone

Not usually, anyway.

I don't know how much time you have for it to honour your submission

I regeared my Asp, these medium beam lasers are just silly compared to the small ones I had before

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