The Dangerously Elite

Rapitor

03:07

spaaaace

someone with an actual imagination write room desc.

Unionhawk

Hellote

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Rapitor

now we can stop flooding the bridge.

Unionhawk

Whee

Tim Stone

But that's my favourite pastime!

Also slight negative marks for not calling the room "The Dangerously Elite", but I'll go with it.

Rapitor

03:10

Then rename it lol.

room topic changed to The Dangerously Elite: Strategizing, Complaining, Playing Elite Dangerous (no tags)

Stack Exchange

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Q: Can I contribute to community goals while playing solo?

I want to participate on CG but I want to avoid PVP or queues to dock on stations. Is it possible?

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Q: Where should I deliver the preparation data?

In every system not prepared by my the power I pledged to I can get up to 10 data. Where can I deliver this data? What should I do with that?

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Q: How does powerplay affect the major factions?

How do the major factions (federation, empire, alliance) expand? If a given power (one of the eight "senators" etc) conquers a rival system does it count for their faction? Do combat zones outside the realm of the 8 powers affect the territory of the 3 major factions? Can powers from the same fac...

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Q: How do I undermine powers?

I want to work on claiming a system for my own power that is already owned by a different power. How do I remove that power? Specifically I am aligned with Arissa and want to take a system from Torval.

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Q: Are powerplay points shared with wingmates?

For the expansion goals for Senator Laingvy-Duval, you have to destroy corrupt law enforcers. Each ship is worth one point. Normally, when bounty hunting in a wing, the bounty is split up among ships responsible for its destruction. Are these powerplay points shared in any way? Can I get partial...

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Unionhawk

Ah balls

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Rapitor

room topic changed to The Dangerously Elite: Strategizing, Complaining, Playing Elite Dangerous. For the Empire! Arissa aligned (no tags)

Tim Stone

@StackExchange Yes

SO SAYETH THE ROBOT

Unionhawk

03:12

@TimStone Full credit?

Tim Stone

That's what he said

Unionhawk

room topic changed to The Dangerously Elite: Strategizing, Complaining, Playing Elite Dangerous. For the Empire! Arissa aligned [-aisling-duval] [arissa-laingvy-duval] [elite-dangerous]

FUCK YES

Rapitor

well the link doesn't work properly on the sidebar, but eh

Unionhawk

Wait I had that feed right

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Unionhawk

03:15

The accepted marks threw me off

Dude, that means just, team up with the random people at the combat zones

That makes wings 100% worth

And not just 25% worth

Rapitor

"as of 6/9/2015 0:30:00 we've spent 828,405,000 Cr on Cartoi. At the very least, I'd like to see followers of both Duval princesses refraining from stepping on each others' toes."

Unionhawk

@Rapitor Agree

Cycle ends in 2 days right?

Rapitor

we should focus on undermining feds

Unionhawk

PANIC

Tim Stone

Pinged on three different chat sites simultaneously, argh

THE SOUND COMB-B-B-B-B-B-O

Unionhawk

03:17

room topic changed to The Dangerously Elite: Strategizing, Complaining, Playing Elite Dangerous. For the Empire! Arissa aligned [a-laingvy-duval] [elite-dangerous]

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk I assume it ends on Saturday, isn't it a week long?

Unionhawk

@TimStone I thought I saw 2 days in cycle

When did the update drop? I forget

Tim Stone

Friday

Rapitor

friday

Tim Stone

It was 2 days in the beta

Unionhawk

03:18

Hmm

I know I saw "days in cycle" somewhere

Maybe I'm just stupid

Rapitor

it shows up on the powerplay menu somewhere

Yuuki

03:33

I think I might align with Aisling. Think I'm gonna make some money through trading to get either the Asp or the Courier.

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk The Help in the powerplay screen says cycles are a week

Rapitor

@Yuuki Courier is very cheap (2mil) and a nice small ship.

also, if you want to get an imperial ship. align with patreus, he gives discount on all imperial ships

Yuuki

Hmm...

How well does the Courier function as a multirole?

Rapitor

I havne't used it much yet, but it seems very good for multirole. 3 medium hardpoints on a small ship is nothing to joke about, it has a good starting jump and fuel tank. cargo is not too much (12 stock), but can be increased a bit

the only thing i can see from fighting NPC couriers... they are pretty squishy

Yuuki

According to the wiki, it has the second lightest hull.

Rapitor

03:42

yeah

Yuuki

Although it can be surprisingly durable with upgrades.

Rapitor

I'll probably farm a bit of bounties tomorrow in my clipper and actually start building the courier... see what I can get out of it

Yuuki

I think I'm gonna stick with that. Make some money with my Adder, I'm thinking 4-5M, and get the Courier.

Rapitor

try out mining, with all the changes mining is supposedly really good now

I'll probably end up making a mining adder at some point

Yuuki

Hmm, I'll give it a try.

Rapitor

03:45

just looking at the bulletin board there's requests for mined goods (maybe you can just buy them from an extraction system?) that pay out like 200k+

Yuuki

Are the mechanics the same?

Rapitor

no, you can use limpets and drones now to go grab the chunks

Yuuki

Oooo~

But yeah, I can see the Empire factions being prone to infighting, there are four of them after all.

Rapitor

it seems like all vs Arissa, though.

well.. Patreus hates everyone.... Torval doesn't really care, but likes Patreus, and the princesses are at eachothers throats pretty often

Yuuki

Well, if I align with Aisling, you guys will still be my friends.

And you got a friend in me.

Rapitor

03:54

I started with Aisling because I wanted her shield booster thing, but I couldnt find it anywhere

there's barely any penalty for defecting (Aisling sent a single unshielded eagle to hunt me...)

Yuuki

When the road looks rough ahead and you're miles and you're miles from your nice warm bed, you just remember what your ol' pal said, "Boy, you got a friend in me."

I imagine the shield booster would be at headquarters, wherever that is. If there is one.

Rapitor

wasn't. It might not be in the game yet, might have to be a certain rank with her, idk.

Yuuki

Someone said something about waiting 4 weeks.

Tim Stone

05:52

@Yuuki You have to be rank 3 and aligned for four weeks

It's mentioned in the Rank 3 description

GodEmperorDune

06:19

yay arissa!

Unionhawk

12:10

@TimStone Don't you also need to have like, 1,000 powerplay points per week for rank 3?

Like, I'm pretty sure you need to maintain it week to week

Actually, no, 750

I think

2 is 100

Rapitor

12:30

merit is pretty easy to get though

just hang out in a Nav Beacon and hunt non-empire powers, +15 merit per kill. If you are brave enough go into fed space and do it, get even more as well as undermine

Unionhawk

Hwat

I'm clearly doing the wrong stuff

Things are worth 1 in the expansion goals

All ships

Anaconda? 1. Eagle? 1.

So nav beacon and kill both wanted and enemy ships

Lawless?

Do I have a green light on lawless?

There's also a contested system between Aisling and us, in both territories.

Apparently, other stuff is worth more points. I'm clearly doing powerplay wrong. — Unionhawk 6 secs ago

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12:46

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Q: Can I shoot down lawless ships?

In Elite: Dangerous 1.3, two new ship statuses were added in addition to "clean" and "wanted": "enemy" and "lawless". Obviously one has a green light to shoot down enemy ships, but what about lawless ships? Can I shoot them too without getting fined? Do I get anything out of shooting them?

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Unionhawk

13:17

Bah Frontier, I want a Galnet feed to post in here but I can't have one can I

I also kind of want to sit in SC in a control system and interdict federal and alliance agents

Rapitor

why not? does the feed have to be setup a certain way?

Unionhawk

I can't find a(n) RSS unless I'm just blind

Rapitor

this 404s... but idk how RSS works, so it might work correctly? elitedangerous.com/en/news/galnet/rss

Unionhawk

They recently restructured their community website

Rapitor

oh yeah

I guess we just have to wait for them to fix it

@Unionhawk the only thing to note here is don't shoot empire

Unionhawk

13:40

So, basically, just watch for federal and alliance agents for the points. Got it.

Does that mean I have to discriminately bounty hunt?

Or are wanted ships wanted

I mean, it doesn't make sense for Senator Laingvy-Duval to be mad at me for shooting criminals, since her whole thing is that people attacking the emperor on his death bed is symptomatic of a deeper societal problem

(that quote is cooler than Hudson's too)

Rapitor

in the few hours I spent bounty hunting in RES i didn't see anyone aligned to a power, so i think they only appear in nav beacons and SC.

Unionhawk

So I only have to worry about power-aligned ships? Other imperial ships are fair game?

Rapitor

yeah.

Unionhawk

(example: wanted ship working for Empire's Grace. Green light and no demerit?)

Rapitor

light em up.

Unionhawk

13:49

Excellent. Imperial corruption is often lucrative.

Rapitor

Ship working for empires grace and aligned to Aisling? let them shoot first.

Unionhawk

They will only show up as one or the other as I understand it

Rapitor

Powerplay Training Part 2: Preparation

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Powerplay Training Part 3: Expansion

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Powerplay Training Part 4: Control

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Unionhawk

excellent

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk That's what it says, at least. I had heard there was some concern about that, so I don't know.

Unionhawk

13:54

So you're thinking that may change?

Lots of things should change in a bit. Repair cost bug, CG bug, more bugs...

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk I think Frontier is doing Powerplay wrong. >_>

Unionhawk

in The Bridge, 21 hours ago, by Wipqozn

IT sure is nice that Elite is still in beta.

Tim Stone

Which is incidentally likely why the beta testers were saying it needed more time

Unionhawk

@TimStone I guess contributing to a 2000% complete expansion goal doesn't get you that much. Who would have thought?

Clearly not me

I just need a good RES or beacon and then I can be in my happy zone

Rapitor

@Unionhawk -cough- facece.

Unionhawk

13:59

@Rapitor cough I hate you both

Fine I guess I will get empire rank tonight

Rapitor

can you get into Archenar?

Unionhawk

What's required for that system? Earl?

@Rapitor Ya

The fact that we have both Achenar and Facece is glorious

Tim Stone

I'm a Marquis now, yay

Unionhawk

Good thing that's only for bragging rights, Mr. Dangerous Marquis CMDR tms

From now on you will all refer to me as Mr. Expert Master CMDR Unionhawk. Or don't, actually, because it'll just make me feel bad about my life

Since I'm pretty sure you're both at least dangerous/earl

Tim Stone

Hrm. I was going to play before doing work but I can't connect to the servers. :(

Rapitor

14:15

@Unionhawk you need Count.

also. only marquis? I'm Prince :D

Unionhawk

@Rapitor So... like... 3...? More?

No 6

dammit

that's a lot

Rapitor

elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Empire#Ranks

I wonder if you could get into Facece from SC...

it would take a while.

Unionhawk

No

You cannot

It wouldn't load

Rapitor

have you tried it

Unionhawk

No, but I'm fairly certain others have

With other systems

The game won't bother loading another system unless you make an actual jump to it

In the same way that you can't fly to a station in regular space even if you were close and spent an hour, the game won't bother loading the station unless you have destination lock.

Tim Stone

15:19

> Fix for route plotting: route isn't cleared anymore each time a target is locked.

\o/

Rapitor

was there a patch?

Tim Stone

Yes

2

It's why the servers are down now

Rapitor

oh, neat.

fixing the route plotting is my favorite thing.

Unionhawk

\o/

Rapitor

Commanders who cannot load back into the game after a certain type of Hyperspace failure should be automatically rescued to the last system they safely docked in.

this one happened to me a lot

wait faction progression reset? does that mean im going to be dropped back down to earl? D:

I'm so close to king tho.

Tim Stone

15:27

I wasn't sure about that either

Unionhawk

dear F:D: make an RSS feed of this so we can make it a feed in this room. <3 @Uni

Rapitor

just request it on the reddit or forums or something. the devs are pretty active there from what I see.

speaking of though. the galnet contains both good and bad news for us

gained a new minor faction allegiance, as did patreus, though.

room topic changed to The Dangerously Elite: Strategizing, Complaining, Playing Elite Dangerous. For the Empire! Arissa aligned [a-lavigny-duval] [elite-dangerous] [empire]

(you mispelled her name)

Unionhawk

It's lavigny?

Oh

Tim Stone

@Rapitor Yes, apparently. I was reset to Earl

Rapitor

15:42

well poop.

Unionhawk

16:19

HAHAHAHAHAHA

take that

Rapitor

16:32

yeah well. I hope all your money got reset >:(

Unionhawk

WOW

SHOTS FIRED

Tim Stone

Woah now

Unionhawk

I can loan you guys some if you want, in... small-ish increments. And you'd need cargo space and probably cargo drones

Actually, no, screw you guys

That sounds like work

Rapitor

16:48

don't need cargo drones...

you can still scoop manually.

Unionhawk

Right, you just need to be good at scooping

Who does that?

Rapitor

all you have to do is poop it out

I'm good at scooping...

Unionhawk

Well it's too bad you're in a system I can't go to

Rapitor

17:07

if you want some arqade imaginary points the answer to my question about how ot undermine is on the videos.

I'm too lazy to do it.

Yuuki

Hmm... I'm thinking about this build for the Courier:

> [Imperial Courier]
M: 1G/G Burst Laser
M: 1G/G Burst Laser
M: 2D/G Cannon
U: 0D Kill Warrant Scanner

BH: 1I Lightweight Alloy
RB: 4C Power Plant
TM: 3C Thrusters
FH: 3C Frame Shift Drive
EC: 1C Life Support
PC: 3C Power Distributor
SS: 2C Sensors
FS: 3C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 8)

3: 3E Cargo Rack (Capacity: 8)
3: 3C Shield Generator
2: 2C Fuel Scoop
2: 2E Cargo Rack (Capacity: 4)
2: 2E Cargo Rack (Capacity: 4)
1: 1C Detailed Surface Scanner

~3.5M

Rapitor

pretty similar to mine, except replace that cannon with plasma accel,

I also load utility hardpoints with shield boosters

Unionhawk

Yes

You also need at least a BDS for a DSS to do anything

Yuuki

@Rapitor Should do that too.

@Unionhawk Oh, you need both?

Unionhawk

Yes

So you might have to ditch 4 cargo space

*will

Yuuki

17:15

Meh, 16T sounds fine anyways.

Unionhawk

Courier's a tiny-ass ship

35 tons

Rapitor

@Yuuki, alot more expensive... but everything is maxed out pretty much

that's what I'm going to build

replacing the plasma accel with Arissa's Imperial hammer whenever that unlocks.

Unionhawk

Only 2 ships are lighter; hauler and sidey

And Adder is the same

Hauler's only 14 tons

Yuuki

Advanced Discovery Scanner can go alone?

Might spring for that instead then.

Unionhawk

there's an advances surface scanner?

I know there's an advanced discovery scanner

Rapitor

17:17

advanced surface combos with discovery

you can't discover with it. only scan

i think.

Yuuki

I need to look up this stuff, haven't caught up with Exploration.

Unionhawk

Hmm

I could science this

:D

hides

Rapitor

I run with both right now. the detailed scan just gives a bonus when you scan something.

Yuuki

So apparently the surface scanner can go solo, but you have to get super-close to the object to discover it without a discovery scanner.

Unionhawk

I don't see an advanced surface scanner. Is it a higher than class 1 module?

Rapitor

17:18

yeah, that's pretty useless then.

Unionhawk

No, ADS is different from surface scanner

ADS will discover all of the things in the entire system, but not surface scan them

You need a surface scanner still

Rapitor

@Unionhawk there is no advanced surface, just detailed. the discovery scanners can scan planets and such. just the detailed scanner gives more information and payout.

Unionhawk

@Rapitor Right, and discovered tag, potentially

Rapitor

dunno, I don't think I'll ever go out far enough to actually be the first to discover something

Tim Stone

You can find undiscovered stuff ~200Ly out from inhabited space still

Though most of what's there isn't terribly valuable since they're lesser star types

Unionhawk

17:21

I'ma build a cobra to deck out

Rapitor

I've been doing enough jumping and scanning thanks to all this power stuff.. I really don't want to travel anymore.

Tim Stone

I've gone about 1000Ly out from Sol, even managed to discover an Earth-like planet once :o

Rapitor

nice

I do eventually want to see a black hole....

and probably fly into it.

Unionhawk

Boom

Rapitor

do you really need a fuel scoop for mining?

Unionhawk

17:27

I may even have budget to build an asp to mine in

@Rapitor Fair point

Rapitor

also, better collector limpets can get more. depending on how fast you destroy chunks. your limpet might not be able to keep up

Unionhawk

So, I might want to build an asp

Eventually

Actually, I could probably do it

Rapitor

I wonder if the diamonback would make a good miner

the cheap scout

Unionhawk

Possibly

No

Very limited internal compartments

Rapitor

yeah

Unionhawk

17:30

After collector and refinery, you could only get like 6 cargo

Rapitor

Type 6 would be good.

Unionhawk

But I don't want a truck

Rapitor

but you are pretty defensless

Unionhawk

I am not flying a truck

Rapitor

eurotruckspacesimulator3300

Unionhawk

17:31

3301*

Unionhawk

17:49

Point is, if I'm building a miner, it's going to be a cobra or an asp

I'm not going with a pure cargo ship

Rapitor

yeah I know, just asp is pretty expensive.

Unionhawk

But Type 6 is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz‌zzz

And cobra is meh

Rapitor

if i end up building a miner it would probably just end up being an adder or scout anyway. I don't see myself having the attention span to stay there shooting a rock for that long

Unionhawk

And I have 24 million liquid, 20 after I add military composite to my vulture

It's not cheaty money if the game bugged out

Rapitor

how did it happen again? conflict zone?

Unionhawk

17:54

Conflict Zone CG

Which had a AA single top commander level

I deserved whatever the lowest tier was

I got AA

Because Elite can be broken like that.

Rapitor

well then.

Unionhawk

@TimStone got like, 5, @OrigamiRobutt got like, 8, I hit the jackpot, apparently

Tim Stone

To be fair, I still haven't turned that in

Unionhawk

Fine, @OrigamiRobutt got like, 8, @TimStone is trying to be a good person

I wasn't paying attention

The ticket response was essentially "we know"

Tim Stone

ooo, the turn in location is actually a contested system...

Unionhawk

17:57

Who where

The one between us and Aisling?

Tim Stone

Ngaiawang, it's controlled by Patreus

Unionhawk

Ah

Controlled by him, or exploited by him and others?

Or...?

Controlled by him exploited by others?

I wouldn't fuck with Patreus personally

Tim Stone

Uhh I'm not sure. It's not controlled, it just says "Contested" in the popup bit

Unionhawk

He is almost definitely a sociopath

@TimStone Between who? Us and the sociopath?

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