The Cactus Game Engine

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Duga

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Duga

01:03

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] ShearOfDoom commented on issue #41: How should we handle exceptions?

> Issue fixed. The only thing you have to do is put the @cactus_class_method_exception_handle decorator over each classmethod.

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] ShearOfDoom closed issue #41: How should we handle exceptions?

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] ShearOfDoom pushed commit df408eab to master: Fixed issues with errors.py

Ethan Bierlein

01:31

Hey, @AnnonomusPenguin, nicely formatted errors!

Duga

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] ShearOfDoom pushed commit 3e91015d to master: Added some special error trace formatting.

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] ShearOfDoom pushed commit 85f5e46c to master: Fixed indentation errors.

Ethan Bierlein

01:56

Hello @Doorknob

Ethan Bierlein

02:11

IT'S TOO QUIET

Annonomus Penguin

02:24

@Doorknob was in here?

The Doorknob?

Ethan Bierlein

I think

I saw his profile picture in the collection of user profile pictures.

@AnnonomusPenguin btw, I've implemented the error handling system. It uses function decorators.

in The 2nd Monitor, 2 mins ago, by Ethan Bierlein

Hello @JonSkeet

Annonomus Penguin

02:45

Ok. So no exceptions?

Ethan Bierlein

Essentially, it'll print the entire stacktrace to a file, along with other useful info.

Ethan Bierlein

02:59

Hello

Duga

03:09

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] Phrancis starred us

Annonomus Penguin

03:47

Any list of previous commands @EthanBierlein?

Ethan Bierlein

@AnnonomusPenguin I'm not sure what you mean...

I implemented the error handling. Essentially, each function is decorated with an error handler that'll log errors to the file.

1 hour later…

Ethan Bierlein

05:13

Night

9 hours later…

Duga

14:37

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] Annonomus-Penguin pushed commit 32da4886 to master: Please use PEP 8, as always

Annonomus Penguin

@Ethan the error handling is really cool!

Annonomus Penguin

15:00

I'm adding a few things to the data so things can better be diagnosed and reproduced

Ethan Bierlein

15:16

@AnnonomusPenguin Thanks! I actually learned how Python decorators work just for that purpose. xD

Annonomus Penguin

@EthanBierlein haha

Ethan Bierlein

Also, what would the new error reports look like?

Annonomus Penguin

I'm just adding more info, like Python version, etc.

Ethan Bierlein

Cool.

Annonomus Penguin

System architecture, blarg

Also: I'm giving the full file path to the user if they don't know where the error reports are stored

Ethan Bierlein

15:18

Ah, okay. The file should be in the same directory as their game file.

Annonomus Penguin

Wouldn't it be in the cactus folder?

Ethan Bierlein

Nope. Tested it last night. It'll be in the same directory as the user's game file.

Annonomus Penguin

Ah, that kinda makes sense.

But, at the same time... nope!

Technical users might know where to look, but the average game-player won't.

Ethan Bierlein

Hmm. Well. Okay. Even if it is in the same dir, the path will still be useful.

Annonomus Penguin

If someone makes a real game out of this, they might add an installer or something more detailed

Or package it into a binary file (you can do that with Python, right?)

Ethan Bierlein

15:25

I think, I'm not sure. There is a python module called py2exe which converts Python files to executables.

We could have py2exe packaged in as long as the license isn't wonky like pyfiglet.

Annonomus Penguin

Later :p

Not yet

Ethan Bierlein

See ya

Scratch that, there is a version for Python3.

Annonomus Penguin

@EthanBierlein I meant add that later

I'm not leaving

Ethan Bierlein

Oh, okay.

Annonomus Penguin

lol

Annonomus Penguin

15:46

> Python: CPython v3.4.3:9b73f1c3e601 Feb 24 2015 22:43:06 MSC v.1600 32 bit (Intel)

^^^ Needs moar pYthon information

> Operating System: Windows-8-6.2.9200

> Processor: AMD64 Family 21 Model 1 Stepping 2, AuthenticAMD

> Default Browser (to tell if you should help this person or not): Chrome

Duga

16:44

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] Annonomus-Penguin closed issue #40: Correctly set leading underscore for class members

Ethan Bierlein

16:58

@AnnonomusPenguin The variables in TEST_test1.py are capitalized because they remain constant.

Duga

17:13

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] ShearOfDoom pushed commit e1a8433c to master: Changed wording to not imply that every error is dev-related.

Annonomus Penguin

@EthanBierlein ehh, don't they change? Internally?

That's not constant

And why don't you have class_data_keys_types a constant, then?

Ethan Bierlein

Ooh, I'll fix that right now.

brb

Annonomus Penguin

@Ethan I just realized this: why do you use nested lists for class_data_keys_types?

Why not a dictionary?

Hmm... would that work?

Ethan Bierlein

No idea.

I'll see if I can refactor that after I rename those variables.

Annonomus Penguin

It seems like it'd be simpler

@Ethan re: github.com/ShearOfDoom/Cactus/commit/…: I did it that way so they knew that 1.) they didn't do something wrong 2.) they wouldn't be asked to submit a Cactus bug report when the developer should be the one submitting it 3.) wouldn't be asking us for support for a developer's bug

I was thinking that the game developer could contact us themselves, and give us more helpful information than the average player

Ethan Bierlein

17:25

Ah, okay, I'll revert that.

Annonomus Penguin

But you're right

I think that we should change that so it doesn't put blame on the developer

Something like this?:

Ethan Bierlein

Oh, okay.

Annonomus Penguin

> Something wrong internally happened (not your fault!). This may be an issue with the game itself, or the underlying components. To help fix this issue, please contact the developers of the game with the error report in this location:

What about that?

Ethan Bierlein

Perfect

Annonomus Penguin

Can you do that? I don't have time right now (or I can do it myself later)

Ethan Bierlein

17:27

Yup.

Annonomus Penguin

Also, RE: github.com/ShearOfDoom/Cactus/commit/…: I'm confused on if this is a constant or not. The class doesn't mutate itself, but it mutates the internal components

I see both sides of the issue rn and am not sure

@EthanBierlein thanks!

Ethan Bierlein

To the user, the data doesn't change, so those variables should be constant.

Annonomus Penguin

Hmm... but with the error handler

They could mutate the GAME_MAP or something in an event handler

Ethan Bierlein

Hmm, true.

Oh well, for now, let's just keep them as constants.

Annonomus Penguin

I think by constants that they mean literal stuff like PI = 3.14

@EthanBierlein ok

I'm actually really excited with this error-handling thing. It's a cool feature that we might want to advertise ("gracefully generates error logs when exceptions thrown, and gracefully notifies the user to send in the error report")

Wordsmithing required ^^^

Ethan Bierlein

17:33

You are our master wordsmith. :D

Duga

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] ShearOfDoom pushed commit 8b1a6e12 to master: Refactored naming, and some wording.

Ethan Bierlein

YAY 80 COMMITS

Annonomus Penguin

@EthanBierlein nah :D

Ethan Bierlein

That's a nice round number.

100 will be better though.

Annonomus Penguin

tempted to push commit to make a one-letter change

Ethan Bierlein

17:42

Oh, where?

Annonomus Penguin

git commit -m "Added newline at end of file to make it 81 commits"

Ethan Bierlein

lol

Annonomus Penguin

We haven't had any starts recently

Ethan Bierlein

Starts?

Annonomus Penguin

*Stars

Ethan Bierlein

17:43

@Phrancis Starred us yesterday

Annonomus Penguin

I meant in chat

Ethan Bierlein

Annonomus Penguin

The first day every other message was starred. Now it's like one in 80

Ethan Bierlein

18:07

@AnnonomusPenguin Now every other one is starred.

3 hours later…

Annonomus Penguin

20:45

@EthanBierlein oh great

Ethan Bierlein

21:12

@AnnonomusPenguin What happened?

Duga

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] ShearOfDoom assigned ShearOfDoom to issue #12: blankline_between_content bool

[ShearOfDoom/Cactus] ShearOfDoom unassigned The-Quill from issue #12: blankline_between_content bool

bazola

@EthanBierlein not sure if you are curious to play my new game, but i just uploaded it to pixelpocalypse.com/voxelcity

Annonomus Penguin

21:36

@EthanBierlein check which message I replied to :)

Frankly, I'm wonder what happened, myself.

Ethan Bierlein

Oh, lol

Ethan Bierlein

22:20

Wow, it only took github a minute to sync all the changes to my dev laptop.

1 hour later…

Quill

23:21

Good Morning @all

Ethan Bierlein

23:38

Hello @Quill

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