The Nineteenth Byte

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00:25

@rydwolf LMAO

Honestly yeah

DLosc

HNQ title of the day: My head seems to have fallen off

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@rydwolf ~~I think you might understand us even less now~~

lyxal

@NewPosts horrible language design decisions from 2018, 1 byte

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or at least me specifically

@lyxal The 11 byter for that square challenge is pretty funny at least :P

lyxal

@UnrelatedString ?

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00:33

I know it got bumped recently and that's why I saw it

one sec

lyxal

r/whoosh

emanresu A

1

A: Make me a square!

Keg, 11 bytes ??? ? ? ??? It really just replaces the ?s with the input! Alterate 11 byter ¿3*:& ? ? &

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That

@lyxal Oh LMAO

lyxal

:p

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00:45

@rydwolf Like... does not consciously wanting a relationship with them mean that you aren't still attracted to them? The people you describe and single out as "attractive and cool"?

I actually happened to hear some stuff kinda related to this the other day, about how sometimes the feelings just don't all align with each other

rydwolf

00:57

@UnrelatedString Like I'm attracted to them but not sure on a higher level if I would actually want a relationship

Like how a box of cake mix is attractive but the actual mechanics of making the cake and then eating all that sugar are enough to give me second thoughts on actually making me pursue baking it

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Yeah that's what I assumed :P

rydwolf

like the idea of elevating a single person to that level where they're so many parts of my life and so involved in it seems like it'd either require an unrealistically compatible person or a superhuman level of communication

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Ohh

I actually can relate a bit to that

rydwolf

@emanresuA A more subtle thing I could do is bring up someone else I have a crush on

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Is the reason you need to communicate this that they're just, like, continually clinging to you despite a lack of interest?

rydwolf

01:05

sort of yeah

the root problem is probably that I'm still bad at saying no, so I went along with all his suggestions of stuff to do when we first met (watch a few episodes of a TV show that was a gay rom-com, show him the dorm I live in, go to the dorm he lives in and talk for a long time, etc.), which probably comes across as strong interest, even though I did say at one point I wasn't looking for a relationship (not really true)

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Ahhh

LMAO

Yeah good luck

(how did that even happen???)

rydwolf

Also his life plans are, in his words, to be a "trophy husband" and he was very overtly offering this to me

strange guy

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pfff

rydwolf

@UnrelatedString we were at an event for a club I'm in and he mentioned there was grilled cheese upstairs and naturally imma get some grilled cheese then he mentions we need to go to his dorm to get some superglue (it was a crafts thingy we were doing) so I see his dorm real quick then I don't remember how but after the event was over we ended up walking to my dorm (I think it was to show him the basement), then we went back to his dorm a second time because he waa really hyping up this tv show

Worst part is that the last time something like this happened involved a board game night in Stever, the same dorm which was the "upstairs" which had the grilled cheese. And the board game night coincided with grilled cheese night. So the same RA saw me both times and probably assumes I'm a terrible person

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Ahhh

rydwolf

01:13

also one time she waved at me and I assumed it was someone behind me and it wasn't and so I just kinda coldly ignored the wave by complete mistake

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damn

emanresu A

@rydwolf interesting

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@rydwolf Also wait what would the basis of that assumption be LMAO

rydwolf

@emanresuA His parents are both ivy-educated law professors, this may be a factor

also no offense to the many decent and mature nepo babies who are probably out there but if your parents are both ivy educated lawyers I like you like 50% less than the average person as a baseline and you gotta make up for that

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Real

@att He can if nothing else be entertaining at times :P

@Ginger <3

Seggan

01:40

@UnrelatedString why does this look so microsofty

also, today in HNQ of the Day:

Redz

how the heck is 'my head seems to have fallen off' even a valid question

like in which game does that happen I need to know now

Seggan

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Q: My head seems to have fallen off

I was playing Dead Cells again recently, after a couple month hiatus, and something horrible has happened - my head has fallen off. I stood up from the game temporarily in the starting section of the game. The controller was upside down when I came back (I’d left it like that, I suppose), so I’m...

dead-cells

Redz

dang

@rydwolf hopefully he didn't mix the grilled cheese up with the superglue because I've seen that happen before

emanresu A

... how?

Redz

to be fair it was like 2am

and we were making sandwiches except the superglue was nearby so they kind of just picked up the superglue instead of the cheese packet

emanresu A

01:45

I repeat my question: how?

Redz

I'll tell you later

lecture calls

rydwolf

02:07

fucking hate differential equations

making an assignment due at 10pm

what even is that

on a wednesday too

i need to stop procrastinating

I'm mostly just mad I actually have to do work I guess

but also poorly designed work

I'm gonna lose like 5 points on my final grade just from not having time to finish these stupid online assignments due at 10

Dannyu NDos

@rydwolf Ordinary or partial?

Ginger

@Redz ಠ⁠_⁠ಠ

lyxal

02:38

@Redz I mean, tbf anyone could make that mistake

Always gotta be careful around super glue

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It has finally arrived

lyxal

Imagine getting liquid shipped in a bag

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That would be funny I think

lyxal

159ml of t-shirt goodness

Redz

03:14

@emanresuA so you see you know how some people eat grilled cheese sandwiches with ketchup

and because we had done like an art project really recently we had the superglue bottle out

and coincidentally the ketchup bottle is a similar shape to the superglue bottle

and my friend likes putting the ketchup on before the cheese (idk why) so they grabbed the bottle of superglue and started putting superglue on bread

thankfully they figured out it was superglue before we started cooking

but yeah that mistake exists

lyxal

03:29

@Redz okay now see I was willing to go along with the whole story and pretend that it was a completely normal situation to use super glue but really? Ketchup?!?! on your cheese sandwich?!?

Nuh uh

That's not based

Redz

totally serious

ketchup on a cheese sandwich

their regular combination is vegemite, peanut butter, ketchup and grilled cheese

lyxal

@Redz that's what makes it bad

@Redz you didn't need to make my opinion of their tastes sink further then they already were

Redz

I mean I've tried peanut butter and ketchup

it's literally not that bad

lyxal

Sure sounds it

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03:56

?????????????????

I can barely stand ketchup on its own, granted

lyxal

04:10

@UnrelatedString no no that's code golf

We're talking about abhorrent cheese sandwich combinations

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LMAO

Redz

lemme think

what about cheese and jam

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@rydwolf though I am glad you brought this up because I've been having some confusing thoughts lately :P

but that's a story for another day

@Redz Depends on the cheese and the jam :P

Because some absolutely pair well and are, like, known to

Redz

I asked my friend and they replied so fast what the hell

with 'cheese, chocolate spread, blueberry jam, gravy and tomato sauce'

like what the HELL

why does danish grilled cheese with blueberry bacon jam exist like why is this a thing

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??????????????????

WHAT

...actually that sounds alright if it's like a REALLY lightweight cheese

Redz

04:21

dang you almost kept the amount of question marks the same

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or like... Maillarded to hell?

Redz

one extra the second time

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Wow

:D

Redz

@UnrelatedString no clue what you're talking about I can't eat cheese :P

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Maillard reaction

Redz

04:21

looking it up

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The one that turns stuff brown in a good way

Redz

cool

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yeah

Redz

okay I got a response without cheese

potato chips, mustard, ketchup and mayonnaise

lyxal

05:28

@Redz do not let bro cook ever

You will end up with third degree tastebud slaughter

And the judge will sentence them to 80 billion years in jail where the only food is stuff you can't combine in weird ways

Everyone will visit the jail cell as like a tourist attraction and say "that's the bingus with the weird taste. Very cringe"

Redz

05:44

@lyxal what food can't you combine in weird ways

lyxal

Bread and eggs

For example

Or bread and butter

Or just pick any single thing and ban everything else

Redz

fair

@lyxal boiled butter :D

@lyxal torch the eggs

lyxal

I wouldn't call those weird

I don't mean cooking methods I mean taste combinations

emanresu A

What if I make, like, a mosaic of bread and butter

lyxal

That still doesn't constitute a taste violation

Redz

05:53

wait that's so sad

okay have you tried though

ice cream with vinegar and chocolate sauce

lyxal

No

Redz

it's actually decent you should try

lyxal

No

Dannyu NDos

Uhh, I'm cooking tonkatsu for dinner today.

l4m2

08:11

Tool to draw flow graph and convert into programming language? GPT suggests tools that can draw but can't generate code, or reversed tool, aka. tool where input is code and output is flow, both of which do wrong thing

Themoonisacheese

09:05

@l4m2 visual paradigm can do that if specifically you want said code to be java and also you need it to suck the entire time

l4m2

09:32

@Themoonisacheese visual-paradigm.com/tutorials/flowchart-tutorial No support to generate code

Themoonisacheese

then idk

i know we had a class that involved making UML diagrams in VP and clicking the "generate code" buttom, but i would totally understand if they decided to scrap that because it fucking sucked

Ginger

11:44

@Redz revolting

Redz

12:38

@Ginger i'll have you know peanut butter and ketchup is surprisingly good

Ginger

[citation needed]

Redz

okay fair

Themoonisacheese

12:50

is samurai sauce a thing outside france?

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13:29

Never heard of it

so probably not

rydwolf

13:56

@UnrelatedString hand reveal??

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:3

rydwolf

Random math question, say you want to randomly choose n booleans such that x of them are true. If you were to choose booleans with a uniform probability distribution (where p=x/n) until you hit x trues or n-x falses then fill in the rest with falses/trues (respectively), would that give you a different distribution from if you did it "properly" (e.g., randomly shuffling a list of x trues and n-x falses)

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My gut says yes but I do not know why :P

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14:26

They do seem to differ by Monte Carlo simulation

Themoonisacheese

14:37

@UnrelatedString oh well since we're on the topic of slightly unhinged but actually good sauce combos

samurai sauce is ketchup, mayo and harissa mixed together

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Interesting

Themoonisacheese

@rydwolf yes, because in the first instance, earlier bits have a higher chance of being true than later bits, except when p=1.

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that does sound pretty good

Themoonisacheese

also unhinged french food inventions: the french tacos

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I have heard of those

Themoonisacheese

14:41

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They do sound good and I want to actually try one some time

but it's still so crazy that they're called tacos LMAO

Themoonisacheese

yes

essentially they are burritos without rice and beans and with fries

and copious (depending on if you called the chef bossman or not) amounts of cheesy sauce

@UnrelatedString what's even more crazy is that they're not called "Taco" in the singular, they keep the s

rydwolf

I'm so illiterate

I wrote a whole paragraph for a discussion thing about how a paper didn't spend enough time talking about mitigations and there's a whole page dedicated to it that I skimmed over

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@Themoonisacheese AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

@rydwolf happens

rydwolf

Problem is I just like do not have much to say about these papers

Like "paper good 👍" does not hit 300 words

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14:52

ikr

@DannyuNDos Ooh, nice

@Redz Honestly that does sound alright

Vinegar's versatile like that

Probably not as good as chili crisp though

rydwolf

@Themoonisacheese Are you sure?

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Converting to binary, the mean is muuuch lower

so probably :P

rydwolf

Take n=3. The first two booleans will always be chosen uniformly, so we only need to worry about the last one. If both previous booleans are false (prob=(1-p)^2), the last one will always be true. If both previous booleans are true (prob=P^2), the last boolean will always be false. If the previous booleans are opposites (prob=2*P*(1-p)), the last boolean is just chosen uniformly. So you get a probability of 0*(1-p)^2+p*2*p*(1-p)+1*p^2, which is...oh wait not p yeah

Themoonisacheese

15:25

glad i could help you get there on your own

i was trying to write that out but then work happened, and while i insist on fequenting TNB exclusively during work hours, i still like my job

@rydwolf sounds like a fantastic use-case for chatgpt tbh

Simd

15:43

hello!

Seggan

17:11

@lyxal ive had italian dressing shipped like that

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18:01

Wow

New Posts

18:25

0

Q: How many dots are there?

Given a string of printable ASCII, count the dots. The following characters have one dot each: i j . ; ! ?. This character has two dots: :. No other characters have dots. Rules Default I/O rules and standard rules apply. Standard loopholes are forbidden. This is code-golf; shortest solution in ...

code-golf

rydwolf

19:25

@canadians can you get bagged milk delivered?

att

19:43

(finally) went to look at mathematica 14.1 release notes and

emanresu A

interesting

Seggan

very interesting

att

would be very chaotic for golf but it looks like it uses internet

maybe if one day they include a local model

The Empty String Photographer

20:07

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21:51

@att OH

wow yeah if that gets a non-online version that would be crazy

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22:25

Did the third "lab" assignment for my whatever this compsci class is called class in like an hour

Hating the circuit design software a lot less overall

Bbrk24

I have what is probably the first ever “99 bottles of beer” program in Qdeql! It’s 478kB

emanresu A

Circuit Wizard?

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but also bothered that large plexer type components don't let you configure bus output instead of making you MANUALLY merge all of the outputs

which I have refused to do, in favor of using multiple stages of bus plexers :P

@Bbrk24 Congrats! amazing

Redz

@Bbrk24 woah, nice!

rydwolf

@Bbrk24 Ayy nice :p

Bbrk24

22:28

It’s generated from a ~7.5kB template file using a template engine I wrote myself

emanresu A

@Bbrk24 Nice :p

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@emanresuA github.com/hneemann/Digital

@Bbrk24 Oooh, neat

emanresu A

... on the one hand, it's not software from the mid-90s. On the other hand, it's written in Java

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Yep 😭

Bbrk24

@Bbrk24 i’m going to try to golf this template file, and probably also have to change the punctuation so that it meets the spec on this website’s challenge, and then I’m going to submit that as an answer

emanresu A

22:29

Ah, I see, it's more for logical circuits than physical ones, makes sense

Bbrk24

tangentially, I find it kind of funny how what is probably the most comprehensive Qdeql test suite ever, lives in the Trilangle repository

7

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My main two gripes are
- you can't open the open file dialogue more than once without closing and reopening the program for some reason
- every time you change a tunnel label it gives you a dialog box asking if you want to rename everything else with that label and every time you make a tunnel end it has the last label you used so this happens constantly (and this is one of the few things you have a keyboard shortcut for too!!!)

Anyways the really funny thing about the plexers in this assignment was we were supposed to use a decoder for something... when that same thing also has an enable bit... which you can just demux directly instead of ANDing with every single output bit

...though given this is specifically a MIPS-style register file with an unwritable constant $0, maybe we're actually supposed to AND it with the index LMAO

rydwolf

Fun fact: the officially recommended mitigation for Hertzbleed is just "change how you do computation so that the power usage can't be analyzed"

4

we love intel

Redz

wow

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ahahahahahahahahahahahahha

wow

Redz

22:44

that's impressive

rydwolf

I'm currently working on a project involving a Hertzbleed-like side channel on CPUs without frequency scaling

Hertzbleed minus hertz is just bleed I guess

emanresu A

Cool! I'm slightly jealous of your cybersecurity classes with actual practical stuff

(and first-year too)

rydwolf

Everyone I talk to here is impressed I'm in the class as a first year, it's so funny to me that I just kinda showed up one day and it worked out

*here as in cmu

emanresu A

Ah, nice :p

Bbrk24

@Bbrk24 Here's the template file if anyone wants to take a look: github.com/bbrk24/template-qdeql/blob/main/examples/…

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23:01

@rydwolf Everyone I mention having been in high numbered electives as a freshman to is just confused 😭

emanresu A

and I'ma be in fourth-year courses as a first year student which'll be interesting

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:3

att

23:14

i wanted to say something about kids these days but nothing sounded right so have this dump instead

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lol

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