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> [A fringe candidate for Missouri governor] said in a lawsuit that he has never been a member of the KKK, but was instead provided an “Honorary 1-year membership” by a Missouri coordinator.
thought that said "fridge candidate"
"I've never been a member of the KKK... they just said I should be."
There's the trump quote/discussion: "I'm not a racist, I've never said anything racist." camera pans to all the self-admitted racists who like and support Trump
"I'm not a racist" (because racism isn't popular right now)
"I'm not in the business of openly declaring my racism, I just let it speak for itself."
01:05
The word assign feels like it's missing an e or an extra vowel. Because right now it reads like "ass in game name" which is not at all "a sine"
or at the very least should drop one of those two s's
alternatively, it reads as "a sig in"
which is also not how it's supposed to be said
If there was one <s> I'd feel like it should be pronounced /z/
Though I'm not sure what I'm extrapolating that from
I'm adding this to the list of things I'd use a time machine to fix
So, you deign to malign and impugn English spelling? ... You're not the first.
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dang right
I'm lyxal
Is it good to write ‱₀₀ ?
01:15
and I only have issue with "assign" because I've been writing it a lot this week :p
it's no longer looking like a word
HAHA IT WORKS
MY CHAT APP WORKS
@UnrelatedString Implying it shouldn't be, and we're all just wrong
&#39;
Do &#39; display as amp #39?
01:21
&amp;#39;
01:41
@l4m2 It hurts my eyes but it might work better in a different font
 
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03:32
I didn’t know Dyalog owned property here
were you being violently shaken when you took that?
why is it so blurry :p
@Ginger hard to take a clear image when you're on the run from Dyalog
They don't want the world knowing where there's apl property
emanresu probably only had like 3 seconds before the orchard noticed and rained full force punishment
03:49
those are just the kind of risks you have to take in this business I suppose
Photo clarity is a luxury for those too naive to know what's really going on
That, and the ones on top of the business pyramid
04:02
(live photo of the business pyramid)
 
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06:37
@lyxal The ELO system is very flawed
06:48
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emanresu A[WIP] Ways to paint a backbone on a tree Say I have some unlabelled tree graph: I'll define a "backbone" as a path on a graph that can't be extended - both its ends are at terminal vertices. There are three ways to overlay a backbone on the above graph: However, you might notice that the first ...

(note: I typed ^ up a week ago and then left the tab open, might finish at some point)
07:09
@mousetail maybe, but it's the best general measure of golfiness so far
Why would you even try to do that?
07:29
just thought of a challenge where you replace ASCII control codes with symbols for them ( etc) but it's probably a) trivial in many languages and/or b) already done
don't even know if there's a symbol for each control code
There are
Pretty sure the challenge exists
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Q: Substitute Unprintable ASCII Characters

lyxal Sandbox Have y'all ever written an answer with unprintable ASCII characters in it and wished that there was an easy way to represent those characters in a printable way? Well, that's why the Control Pictures Unicode block was invented. However, manually substituting these characters into one'...

yeah guessed it did but don't know what keywords to use
@Bubbler thanks!
No worries, a lot of challenge ideas end up being dupes
@SandboxPosts I started studying organic chemistry last week and I've had 5+ challenge ideas - this is the only one that isn't a dupe
07:33
@Bubbler oh, this challenge doesn't replace tabs and newlines, which do have characters representing them ( and ), interesting
are they considered "printable"? or is the challenge title just slightly wrong?
I guess that depends on interpretation; \n and \t are often considered "printable whitespace" chars
λ ghci
GHCi, version 9.10.1: haskell.org/ghc  :? for help
ghci> import Data.Char
ghci> isPrint '\n'
False
ghci> isPrint '\t'
False
haskell says no(:
what about ' '?
yes
i've always been taught ascii printable is c≥' ' and unprintable is c<' '
but i guess it might make sense that especially tab might be printable
it's control because it's not a single character liks ' ' or 'a' is, it does special stuff when printed
(i guess)
Tab and newline are generally rendered, many other control characters often aren't
07:44
yeah, but not rendered normally i suppose
what's the consensus for string i/o?
there are a ton of allowed methods in default i/o post
For strings pretty much anything is fine
Curiosity question: is a list of lines for KC (the text complexity tag) allowed by default?
(rather than newline joined text)
I don't have any answers or examples in mind that are valid/invalid I just don't know for certain whether it's a yes or no
@RubenVerg but then that varies between languages too
E.g. Python considers newline and tab printable
Unicode has plenty of edgecases e.g. multiwidth characters, ligatures, ogham spaces
IMO although newline and tab are rendered differently they're still rendered
08:01
Too sadge C insists 0x00 to be the string terminator – 0xFF would've been a better choice!
@emanresuA the concept of printable extends less clearly to non-ascii, i think
@lyxal oh, interesting!
btw this seems to be an attempt to include a spam link inside a possibly AI-generated text
Smokey's dealt with it now
(to clarify: smokey didn't detect it, I asked someone to manually flag it)
I should probably install the userscript that makes spam flags auto report as tpu
On mobile that is
I have it on desktop
 
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BlueSum of cubes Challenge Given three non-negative integers \$a, b\$ and \$c\$, decide if sum of their cubes is equal to concatenation of said numbers, aka: $$ a^{3}+b^{3}+c^{3} = a^\frown b ^\frown c $$ Test cases Truthy (1,5,3) // 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3 = 153 (2,3,13) (4,0,7) (10,0,0) (10,0,1) (22,18,59)...

 
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18:03
Is there balanced binary(base 2)? I only find balanced binary trees
wouldn't an even base be unbalanced?
like, it's "balanced" because there's 1 digit above 0 and 1 below 0
18:22
like, 1 = .111111111, or 1.1TTTTT... if you like some number before point
isnt the former true for normal binary?
true
5 = 11T = 11T.1TTTTTT...
oh, so you wouldn't have zero in this system?
It's forced to have no zero
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18:46
what does (un)balanced mean here?
mean if X is a valid digit then -X is
@l4m2 Interesting... but how would you represent an even number in this system?
@DLosc 6=111.TTTTTT....
Ah, so some integers have to be represented as infinite decimals (well, not decimal, but with infinite digits after the binary point).
And then other integers have multiple representations, like 1 could be just 1, or 1T, or 1TT, or...
Should avoid 1T and T1 at beginning like we avoid 0 at beginning
 
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noodle personParse the stack signature of Uiua expressions code-golf parsing uiua In this challenge, you will be given an expression in a Uiua-like language called Weewuh, and determine the stack signature of that expression. Weewuh is a very reduced version of Uiua designed to make this challenge simpler; as...

@SandboxPosts I would really appreciate any feedback on this challenge, especially on making sure the specification is clear and to-the-point, since it is rather long.
seems clear and also rather interesting!
might be biased by knowing a bit about Uiua already though
22:20
@SandboxPosts Please don't require AST parsing
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A: Things to avoid when writing challenges

xnorParsing expressions In challenges dealing with algebraic expressions, don't make the golfer parse input strings like x^3-2x+1 or e^2^x, or to output in this form. This is cumbersome I/O that takes a lot of bytes and effort in languages that aren't like Mathematica, distracting from the actual mat...

@emanresuA Well my intent was for it to be a challenge but maybe I should reconsider
Also that's specifically about algebraic expressions, these expressions are much simpler
They still have parentheses which still requires a substantial amount of code to handle
Do you want parsing to be the main challenge or do you want computing the function arities to be the main challenge? Because currently it's two mostly-unrelated challenges in a row
22:42
Doing something interesting in the context of a specific programming language almost always involves parsing, which is fine to include IMO
that "thing to avoid" is pretty much about expressions that represent numbers to my understanding
@noodleperson I suggest using APL Wiki to learn about the array model, and then look at the primitives supported by the dialect in question.
also there's things like Factor's EBNF that can handle extra computation within parsing
23:01
@noodleperson The parsing is boring but not entirely trivial, and the rest of the actual challenge is operating on a parsed structure
^, and that's what almost all answers will be doing
I guess that's fair
though I imagine most solutions would do the evaluation of the signatures during the parsing
If they get lucky they can parse it while they compute the rest, but that's still not really interesting, and it's structurally going to do the same thing anyways
Hell it might even be shorter for some solutions to parse it anyways
But it could still be a pain for some other solutions
@noodleperson ninja'd 😭
That's reasonable, the parsing is pretty basic anyways...I'm not sure if I want to separate it from the rest of the task though. Like when you write a bf interpreter you don't get an AST as input
You can write a bf interpreter without parsing
(and indeed have to for e.g. SMBF)
23:06
Okay that was a bad example...
Maybe if you replace parentheses with a simple dyadic "concat" modifier
I did consider doing that
@emanresuA The naive "count brackets at runtime" impl is basically the same as what you can do here though
@emanresuA It's a feature that all the Uiusers have been requesting for months lol
23:07
lol
but I feel like it makes it too separate from how Uiua really works? idk
yeah the Uiusers hate parentheses passionately for some reason
Concat modifier definitely would streamline it
(I say Uiusers, another often-used term is Uiuaboos which is really cute)
Ahaha
That's amazing
@UnrelatedString And then you wouldn't have to explain how concatenation works separately (which I don't think you have anyway outside of the testcase?)
23:09
Ahaha yeah
Ahaha why do I say ahaha so much
...getting unpleasant flashbacks to that one time I spent like most of a year putting "xd" on either end of literally all of my messages on the Discord server that most of my social life was on
ahaha xd
Okay apparently only five months
...2018 sure was a different time
@UnrelatedString In the Uiua discord there is one user who has ever said "ahaha" and they said it 13 times last December, do you happen to be"if-els"?
Never heard of them
Also not on the Uiua discord
Me neither just searched it in that server since I've never seen people say "ahaha" in text before
23:17
lol
I just generally qualify things I type with laugh indicators way too much as a habit
in the CGCC discord you are one of 9 people to say it
So I end up having to get creative
Huge
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add smileys :)
23:19
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Always fun to add a bit of snark in assignments
That's some good snark too
@Ginger What
IE is the future of internet browsing
clearly you've never observed the corru
Oh that thing you were talking about in gaming
23:21
Yeah I should check that out some time
Yeah I should add that to my block words
:P
One day I will observe the corru
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is that a synonym for "never" for you too?
Soon™️
23:26
@att it's actually one for November
End of uni year
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and in november it could be february or something
But like November is when i get free time again
If I didn't have uni, I'd be playing it.
23:52
@Ginger that's terrifying
@Redz :(
it's an experience

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