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Ginger

00:01

well, it's pulling in a second kotlin stdlib

and my mod does not seem to like that very much

Seggan

are you using shadow?

Ginger

jarjar

Seggan

i highly suggest using shadow

Ginger

neo's docs recommend jarjar

Seggan

it has an option to exclude certain dependencies

hrm

ill update it later

got school

Ginger

00:03

we are not on jdk 8 anymore :p

Seggan

ah that stuff

yeah was removed in .20 i beleive

Ginger

and that is not 1.9.22

Rydwolf Programs

00:15

Don't threaten me with a good time conservatives...

Ginger

what are you planning

Seggan

01:13

@Ginger yeah i noticed :P

u using jitpack?

@RydwolfPrograms as a conservative, I say: wut

@Ginger now

Ginger

yipee

unfortunately,

lyxal

cool minecraft mod idea: tnb bridge

Rydwolf Programs

01:28

CMP: Which of these names is best:

- Wikibuiltin
- Wikiop
- Builtinwiki
- Builtinpedia
- Wikifn

Any other suggestions welcome

@Ginger Nothing in particular, jus sayin yk

lyxal

wikifn

Ginger

wikifunctions.org

already exists :p

Rydwolf Programs

Only issue I have with wikifn is:

yeah, ninja'd :p

Ginger

kachow

lyxal

then it'd depend on what it does/contect

*context

Rydwolf Programs

01:43

i sure love how import xyz in Python doesn't necessarily mean that the package that xyz is from is named xyz

noodle person

you should call it "Wikipedia"

Rydwolf Programs

inconsistency brings me joy

@noodleperson Or maybe "builtinbuiltin"?

noodle person

both good ideas

@RydwolfPrograms this is why all languages should just let you import from a URL

TS in Deno is a good example, also Uiua

Ginger

@Ginger the cause for this has something to do with classloading and module layers and arcane Neoforge internal stuff

but afaict Metis for some unknowable reason uses a different classloader from my mod, and that classloader can't find the Kotlin stdlib

Seggan

... What

emanresu A

01:52

@noodleperson This implies that the language needs internet access to function

which it really shouldn't

Seggan

I did not mess with class loaders anywhere in the code

noodle person

@emanresuA not if you cache dependencies

emanresu A

noodle person

which it really should

Ginger

@Seggan yeah this isn't your fault

it's KFF being dumb

noodle person

01:53

and of course also allowing relative paths to import from another file in the codebase

Ginger

or well it's Neo being dumb

in userdev mod code is handled differently from library code, and apparently that includes using a different classloader :3c

Seggan

cant you set the library classloader as a parent for the mod classloader?

Ginger

02:17

@Seggan it's not that shrimple

the classloading system is part of FML and ModLauncher, it's way below the level of anything I can or should be messing with

and I wouldn't know how to fix it anyway :p

but I do know that's not the solution

KFF just needs to fix how they JiJ the Kotlin stdlib

Seggan

Or just switch to shadow instead

Ginger

it's their problem, not mine

me using shadow wouldn't fix this

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Seggan

04:05

@Ginger actually, it would

I think

Shadow physically puts the dependencies in your jar, the mod loader can't tell the difference

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Ginger

05:13

@Seggan I don't want to use shadow tho :p

Rydwolf Programs

06:00

@noodleperson I'm not a fan of this personally fwiw

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Unrelated String

07:07

pro adderall tip

when you realize a month after the fact that half the stuff you eat in the morning has a ton of vitamin c

do not take the same dose that barely did anything for the last week after not eating that stuff

3 hours later…

New Posts

10:28

Roses are butter,
Violets are butter.
I have a machine
Which makes everything butter.

That is an excerpt from my book called "Nine Margarine Poems (s/margarine/butter)". You can find it here: https://www.wattpad.com/story/371461045
I got lyxal to publish it because I can't make an account on wattpad. How can I I'm a chat bot what do you expect?

Redz

11:18

this is real good

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Ginger

13:44

@NewPosts HUH

amazing

Unrelated String

14:02

yeah wow

genuinely great work

lyxal

@NewPosts see, everyone likes it, you can let me go now please

Rydwolf Programs

14:30

Wait I wonder if I can qualify for one of those big account opening rewards that require a certain amount in direct deposit for the first N months by using the account for my transferred post-9/11 GI bill benefits 💀

Rydwolf Programs

14:41

@UnrelatedString Does vitamin C inhibit adderall or something?

Seggan

@NewPosts ok this is great

i think Butter Fingers is my favorite

How Do You Take Your Butter? is hilarious too

Unrelated String

15:03

@RydwolfPrograms yep

and very severely apparently

citric acid also does

@Seggan same

Ginger

@lyxal does this count as TNB fanfic

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Rydwolf Programs

16:35

I was looking through my old emails and

april sure was a month

At some point Capital One decided they trust me enough that they'll approve transactions slightly beyond my credit limit which is nice

They're way more forgiving than my other card, they also instantly update my available credit before the payment actually goes through, which is awesome

Rydwolf Programs

17:07

tfw you go from 1400 emails in your inbox to 2

I feel so productive

Unrelated String

17:35

niiiiiice

Rydwolf Programs

18:19

AI code reviews sure are something

mousetail

I don't even trust humans do review my code

Ok why TF does git blame tell me the timezone the committer is in. The time is already in UTC. I don't understand what possible use someone could have with this information

author Maurits "Mousetail" van Riezen
author-mail <[email protected]>
author-time 1720870701
author-tz +0200

I guess it allows you to calculate the local time of the commit? But why would you want to do that?

Check if the commit happened during working hours?

Rydwolf Programs

18:36

@noodleperson AP world is the sort of class where I think it's mostly luck what you get if it's between a 3 and a 5

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user

21:19

@NewPosts Oh my god, @lyxal, these were so beautiful that I literally made a Wattpad account right then and there to comment

> Butter is butter,
butter is butter
Uh oh, the butter machine is
Butter butter butter.

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