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00:16
codegolf.stackexchange.com/search?q=qdeql No results? That surprises me
 
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03:06
@Bbrk24 If no better approaches are suggested I might just lay out each section individually and then connect the sections with massive NOP slides
Likely going to result in huge fields of unused space but what can I do
03:58
mfw I use copilot to help with an assignment about recognising triangles because I as too unwell to figure out how to write a fuzzer for traingle testing and it suggests three triangle types (equilateral, isosceles and scalene) and the triangle identification source says nothing about scalene so I'm like "oh there must be a 4th triangle type I'll add that into the enum of triangle types" and wonder why the fuzzer never finishes generating tests
that's not to say it's doing everything, it's writing what I would have probably otherwise written myself
basically my goofy ahh didn't know that a scalene triangle is what you get when something is a triangle but with side lengths that make it not one of the two funny haha special ones
 
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06:03
My laptop has been running really hot lately
Like 80°C with 20% CPU usage
Not sure what's up with that
In Wigo, if black play first and white can once reject black's move(aka. require to do another move for one time), who has more advantage and what's the komi?
06:38
@mousetail Chrome doesn't like your hack for ><> explanations anymore:
That's why I always put a backup plain text version next to it
07:17
It's kinda limiting wanting to be the president
Like there's so many things I can't do now
Nelson Mandela went to jail then became president anyway
Yeah but what he went to jail for was the same thing he was elected to office to address
Like I was thinking the other day it might be fun to pull a f1nn5ter and ironically look like a woman and dress all cute and stuff
(Hitler did the same thing but less of a wholesome example)
And I could never start an onlyfans
Become president first, then you have free marketing for your onlyfans
07:22
@l4m2 the amount of advantage is still under debate in regular Go (though AIs say it's a little over 8 in favor of Black IIRC), so no one has any idea how a variation like that would work out
@mousetail yeah but I'd be old already
I guess one could train a new AI to play that version of Go to figure out though
minimum age for president in the us is like 80
it's in the constituionf or something
I'm sure there would be people interested in old people onlyfans
Especially if that person is the president
yeah but those aren't the kind of people I want subscribing to my onlyfans
anyway it's late so good night tbg o./
07:33
@Adám It will render on the next draw, so it will never update faster than the screen can refresh
08:00
@mousetail Right, but why recalculate position and update the screen with no or minimal changes, when we know there'll be no significant changes for the next 6 or even 60 frames?
For your use case it's probably unnecessary, it's usually used for faster animations
 
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10:34
@mousetail And no one will believe it's actually yours
@emanresuA Easily provable if you pose naked with confidential documents
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11:28
@DLosc It doesn’t work in Safari either, only Firefox
 
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13:08
@mousetail ...what did I miss
> ironically
Don't you ever pose naked with confidential documents?
@Bbrk24 I know what I can do with it
I am a cat
I'll take that as a yes
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 . Behold, the field upon which.
. I grow my NOPs. . . . . . . . . . . . .
dangit, the fullwidth characters aren't the correct width in my font
13:11
@mousetail unfortunately I don't have confidential documents yet :(
Just check the war and thunder forms
:3c
at this point the war thunder forums have to function as a honeypot for would-be confidential document elakers, right?
who knows
also welcome to TNB
13:27
thank you!
@RydwolfPrograms I would vote for a president who does this though
real
14:04
@Bbrk24 thought this said blow my nose
 
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15:09
@Ginger went and checked, f1nn5ter is genderfluid (based) and on HRT
no irony here :p
15:23
yeah, I don't get to use finn as an example for my "being able to dress up as a woman and still be a cis man is the most manly thing you can do" jokes anymore but good for them :P
shocking information: wanting to dress up as a woman is not entirely a cisgender trait
as i see it: the CS field is heavily male-dominated, but then how come /r/unixsocks? checkmate atheists
well my point was that if one can dress up as a woman and still be confidently male that is the most secure one can be in one's gender, contrasted with people who avoid things for being "girly"
yeah I get the point
it's just that very few people can do that
15:25
so, statistically,
(I understand how statistics work) (trust)
@Ginger I mean, unless you're a cis woman
I suppose :b
i don't think a cis woman who dresses as a woman and is confidently male would be exactly secure in her gender :V
> cis woman who ... is confidently male
🤔
15:32
@Themoonisacheese What if that person identifies as being secure in their gender?
15:42
more power to them. who am i to disagree?
yeah, like, totally valid
real
 
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17:02
Okay cockpit is awesome
Why did I never use it before
I had Fedora server for ages, switched to RHEL but might switch back
1. No Docker
2. No NTFS
3. Bad support if you don't pay for it
Is a realloc with given new position(fail if can't allocate there) useful? realloc requiring to keep in-place should be useful as, in this case no object move is needed
@mousetail Inb4 this is Trump's reelection strategy
guys should i buy the socks
an investment in future productivity?
17:29
@RydwolfPrograms yes :3
you might like them
@Ginger would you be okay with your SSH port becoming 22001?
yeah, why do you ask?
Well, if I'm going to start running multiple VMs, I need to give them all distinct SSH ports
So I'm thinking I'll do 22xxx
aw, do I not get 22000? :(
Nah I need port 22000 to run (googles for IANA registry) snapenetio
17:37
mfw
Aw sad, it's "SNAPeNet" not "SnapeNet"
Thought it'd be some sort of cursed Harry Potter software
Also TIL dynamic TCP ports are only 25% of the 65536, not 50%
I'm thinking I'll give 22xxx for SSH, 26xxx for Minecraft or other uses, and 8xxx for raw HTTP (VMs will also get reverse-proxied HTTP[S] from one or more rto.community subdomains)
I'll probably discourage full VMs tho, and offer Docker containers for lighter weight services people need to run
17:58
what even is snapenet
SNAP I/O is an industrial control system, and SNAP-eNet is an Ethernet interface for it
18:26
@RydwolfPrograms what's the state of the server :3
in progress
hooray
Whoa I accidentally just opened a file in Text for Chrome instead of VS Code and it was like running into an ex you haven't seen in years
So awkward
Like sorry Text, I'm seeing someone else now 😔
"Text for Chrome" there's a name I haven't heard in like 6 years :P (back in HS when I was using the chromebook they gave us)
@RydwolfPrograms fun fact: I write APL in Text for Chrome
18:36
I made a custom modified version which uses custom styling and has all sorts of little tweaks
I used it for ages until I finally switched to using VS Code in the Linux container (I resisted for ages because of this obnoxious bug where the alt+digit keyboard shortcut for switching windows gets swallowed by the Linux environment)
(which still immensely bothers me, and throws me off super hard)
I don't think I've ever heard of that shortcut, is it useful?
my problem with vscode is that it doesn't work with Compose Key
(which is why I write APL in Text)
@RubenVerg It's the main way I navigate around, it's just like the super+digit shortcut on windows
Alt+1 is your first pin, alt+2 is your second, etc.
On every computer I have, regardless of OS, 1 is browser, 2 is terminal, 3 is files, 4 is settings, and 5 is code editor, so when something messes up my seven years of muscle memory it's the worst
Like when an app changes how ctrl+backspace works, but worse
cool. I never have more than like four windows open (the memory is definitely not enough for more) so alt tab works fine for me
@RydwolfPrograms settings is a weird pin
Really?
I hate having to fumble around in search trying to find it
It's awesome having settings like a keyboard shortcut away
I guess on windows it always is, but not chrome
do you use them often?
18:43
I mean, not super often I guess
I think it's more just I pin it early on when setting up a new computer since I need it a lot, then the muscle memory's already there so I don't bother changing it to a new pin
@Ginger Your VM is booted, forgot to attatch the netns to the blagoblag so I'm going to have to reboot rq
hooray!
cursed idea: alias blagoblag=ip
blagoblag link show
alias blagoyoink=wget
@RydwolfPrograms yeah. it feels like I've never used settings after the first like two weeks
but muscle memory is a valid argument
I use it occasionally for messing with display settings or wifi stuff
Ooh, when I still had school, I had to open it every single day to configure my proxy
18:48
contracted school disease 😔
@RydwolfPrograms you should try macOS, where no such feature exists at all
Whoa, I just realized I'll probably never use sock² again
it kills me every time I use a mac
I sure love how pressing escape permanently deletes your message
that's annoying enough that I'm going to make a userscript to fix it
@pxeger Oof really? I was mildly considering getting a mac but that killed any desire to
18:49
🤮 why
@Ginger People have :p (it was even a bonus feature of one of my other userscripts lol)
Luckily macOS is so terrible that there's a huge ecosystem of 3rd party software which implements all the features it's missing
Although this particular feature still doesn't quite work how I want it to
wundiws moment
ah yes. wundiws
also the trackpad is so delightful to use it's likely you'll forget keyboard shortcuts ever existed
trackpad on my chromebook isn't bad, except for that weird reverse scroll thing you can luckily turn off
18:51
(that's serious btw, I use the mouse so much now)
1. Never ever going to own a windows laptop
2. There aren't many high-end Chrome OS machines, as much as I love Chrome OS for everyday use
3. Linux isn't, IMO, a viable OS for everyday use
4. MacOS is basically just more expensive chrome OS
although it probably costs me 0.2 seconds approximately every minute
I mean. I use desktop linux pretty frequently
but I am also Ginger
Really? The only times I've used macbooks I hated the trackpads. The clicking felt so shallow
it is a bit but you get used to it really quickly
Linux is a 100% viable desktop OS. Until I bought a Mac ≈a month ago, I hadn't used anything else for at least 4 years
18:53
I wonder if Chrome OS Flex has any major downsides
I'm not sure but I think Linux doesn't work
I don't know whether my next laptop will be a better Chromebook (current one has definitely not enough memory) or if I'll go back to Windows. are there Chromebooks with good specs?
@pxeger I mean, viable as in you can use it, but the sheer number of bugs and random hardware issues I've run into on Linux makes "unreliable" the first adjective I'd describe it with for anything but servers
if think it's worth the money to you, I'd recommend at least trying one. They have a 14-day no-questions-asked returns policy IIRC
where's the one tumblr post about linux
Plus I've never seen Linux be pretty, and I care about aesthetics as much as or more than functionality
18:55
Linux is viable, just make sure you get an AMD GPU. 90% of the hardware issues are with NVIDIA
yeah I'm not gonna pretend suspend worked for me at any point in april
that is very true, the AMD and Intel graphics drivers are 100000x better than NVIDIA
I picked my college dorm based on what color the wood furniture was
also maybe buy a CPU/motherboard platform that's >12 months old to avoid weirdness
I switched my gaming desktop permanently to Linux because the graphics driver kept crashing in windows
but it really does just work pretty well
18:56
Proton is very good, performance is great
@RydwolfPrograms ricing not your thing? :p
Though it did take a lot of fiddling before it worked well
Ironically games that have native linux binaries don't generally perform well
@RydwolfPrograms Linux can totally be made pretty
@Ginger I've tried to make Linux pretty but never succeeded
For example TF2 "permanently" changed my screen resolution and I needed to dig into the config files to fix it
18:58
found it
@RydwolfPrograms is ChromeOS pretty?
@pxeger There is an entire subreddit of people making pretty linux desktops, forget what it's called
If you take the time to really make it look good it can look a lot better than other platforms
r/riceporn I think
@RubenVerg decently so, it used to be prettier (IMO)
18:59
@Ginger yeah when I find a bug on Linux I'm normally like "oh that's unlucky for some poor developer" instead of "I want to destroy Microsoft with a nuclear bomb"
yup
that emotional change makes a surprising difference to the user experience
One of the main things I value in an OS is that it just works
And Chrome OS is awesome for that
Windows isn't great at just working either
Definitely not
19:01
Chrome might be better
in my view macOS just works, as in "just about"
I have never used chromeOS but I think I would also think it just works
whereas linux werrrks
by the way, is it just my machine or is it a common ChromeOS thing that when memory is close to running out all interaction with Linux apps is interrupted?
I mean, Chrome OS gives you basically everything Linux does, except the bugs and jank are kept contained since it's in a VM
I long for the day I know enough about Linux internals to actually be able to debug problems and not need to copy paste a shady script that uses a ton of sudo and wrangles kernel models and has 50% chance of making the problem worse
sometimes stuff actually freezes and sometimes it just doesn't interact
19:03
I've never experienced that, might just be because I have 8 GB of RAM tho
@mousetail using Arch Linux is the best way to force you to learn enough
I use Arch (Manjaro)
linux is a viable desktop OS for me because I'm really boring and do like nothing all day and don't customize anything. only use windows when playing video games because some games I can't be bothered to try to get them working on linux (league of legends), some perform bad on linux (osu), and so it's easier if I put all of my games on windows instead
@RydwolfPrograms ah. I have four, might be you just never came close to the limit
also do you not just feel grimy for falling right into Google's subsidise-chromeOS-for-schools-until-everyone-born-after-2005-thinks-it's-the-best-OS-ever trap?
19:05
Remember FIrefox os? Wish it had taken off
3
It's crazy how much less RAM Chromebooks need, I had a solid 2 GB of RAM on my first chromebook and it worked fine (no Linux tho). Whereas if you say you have 8 GB of RAM on Windows people look at you the way they look at a homeless child
macOS also has pretty good RAM management fwiw
on Linux random processes sometimes do inexplicably eat it all
@pxeger I'm pretty sure using an OS in a school is the worst possible way to be introduced to it, and the most likely to make someone swear off of it for the rest of their life :p
I have 46 GB of RAM
@pxeger at our school we used Linux Mint, but as someone born after 2005 maybe I did fall into some trap?
I think chromeos is genuinely cool though
19:06
@mousetail 46 or 48?
46.3 usable
If it's 46 I'm curious
ohh this is probably a GiB/GB thing isn't it
it's probably 48GB with 2GB reserved for integrated GPU
oh that makes sense too
@RydwolfPrograms I think RAM is sold in GiB?, so 48GiB would be like 50GB or something
19:08
I think I could get 46 GB in my server, since it has 12 RAM slots
32+8+4+2
Wait no you probably can't mix more than two sizes
4×11 plus 2? Not sure if that would work because one CPU would have more
I have 2x16GB and 2x8GB
the math aint mathing today
Maybe install more mental RAM
I do wish you could upgrade your mental RAM, I often run out of space to store things when doing mental math or even for following conversations sometimes
I'm too used to online chat when you can just look back at things
@mousetail stimulants
That's basically overclocking your existing RAM
19:14
@RubenVerg based
Speaking of Linux being shit, whenever discord has an update I need to wait a day before some anonymous maintainer updates the repo before I can use it again, or manually download the zip and copy all the files in the right folders.
@hyper-neutrino ...wait how does osu of all things get performance issues
well not really performance issues sorry. just it feels laggy like my inputs are delayed or not quite what I expect
that or I suck but I do think I play better on windows? then again maybe it's a lazer diff since I play stable on windows but lazer on linux. then again I FC'd a map on linux using lazer I have not managed to do on stable so I'm not even sure anymore :P
something about the controls feels awkward compared to playing on windows
@mousetail yeah that's annoying, but I blame it more on Discord for requiring immediate app updates (or on them for using a platform with such a huge attack surface (Electron))
19:31
@Ginger After a long struggle, you have internet
yippee!!
thank you
(I changed things up and put your VM in a netns but I don't think that actually serves much of a useful function)
Somehow SELinux never threw a fit
why selinux when can sexylinux
:3
@RydwolfPrograms have you changed the ssh port?
oh wait, ports are gonna be janky
hooray
19:38
actually, lemme check
ssh isn't letting me in, like, at all
yeah
Wait the tmux session seems to have died or something?
oh nvm, wrong account
Might be a firewall issue
I can ping the VM still
weird
fwiw all the sites seem to be working
yeah I'm not sure what's up with ssh
wait ginger
didn't you honeypot your ssh
it's always been hanging for me, even before this, ever since you set that up
@RydwolfPrograms yeah I did
it's on port 2210 now I think
19:53
that would have been nice to know
because guess what isn't on port 2210
I think I told you that already lol
your port forward lmao
yup it works perfectly fine
fuck
bots are still borked I think
19:55
oh wait actuslly you do have a port forward?
yeah I can ssh in now
oh
nice
poggers
cloudflare is still on my ass though
hooray!!!
LMAO my apartment complex called me and left a voicemail containing only hold music
oh and the voice saying "your call is important to us..."
so what's the deal with the stuff I had outside the vm
satisfactory etc
20:03
I want that to also be in a VM
Do you want it in your VM or a second one?
idrc
probably a second one, to contain it
Is all of the stuff you'd need contained within your /home/ginger-minecraft folder?
and for easier control of how much CPU it gets
Or should I copy in some other stuff
@RydwolfPrograms there's a second user, ginger-steam
copy both
20:05
got it
you can merge them into one user
also wtf how did google mess this up:
Ah yes, my favorite band, MEN and Of Mice
OHHHH it thinks "Of Mine" and "Men" are two separate bands credited together xD
"Of Mice and Men".split(" and ")
Or maybe the song is just written by MEN (listen up, NO LADIES here, all 100% MEN), and it's of mice. Like, from the mouse community.
Song (by MEN) (and Of Mice)
MEN
20:10
𝗠𝗘𝗡
I support mice, at least their end third
@RydwolfPrograms (interesting, bolded unicode bold is about the same thickness as regular bold)
Also shoutout to the bold text generator I used for giving me this beautiful option:
yeah idk what cloudflare's been on
the image's src is the correct URL but the link's href is missing a character
weird
20:16
yup, they were discussing it yesterday with some interesting results
21:07
huh, i tried to see if there were any suffixes other than b but i guess i never got to m lmao
m seems to shrink it without cropping to a square like b does
lmao
yesterday, by Unrelated String
i think the url naturally generated a b at the end, and then for some reason the link is to "the embedded image except without a b at the end if if has one" instead of the normal url being stored separately/the thumbnail url being derived
basically the server processing the image request breaks off a ninth suffix character to modify the image but whatever generates image links for chat erases that character if it's at the end even if that's only the eighth
i just tried to brute force if there are any suffix characters other than b and m but got rate limited ;(
at least i established that there aren't any uppercase suffixes
21:27
@mousetail My Windows (on three different computers) just works. Either that, or I'm in so deep that I don't notice the problems anymore, I guess. :P
My desktop does have an assortment of issues, but most of them happen during boot, so I don't think that's a Windows problem.
22:10
Same, I've never had any weird glitches on Windows that weren't causes by either hardware or third party software/firmware
Or by my own messing around
As long as you act like the idiot Microsoft assumes you are, you should be fine. And then there's WSL for actual development
I agree that things get bad real quick if you try changing any settings that Microsoft considers too advanced for regular users, or if you go into the registry or something
@mousetail I'd just like better storage, and then that could be used as swap. Being able to set reminders/timers would be nice too
22:39
@pxeger Macbook trackpads gotta be the most well designed part of the macbook. Both software and hardware
The macbook air trackpad is like half the reason I stick to the Microsoft surface series
It's one of the only laptop ranges I've found with trackpads remotely similar to the feel of the macbook.
23:08
@lyxal they also actually have good hinges, unlike many windows laptops I’ve seen
That's true too yeah never really thought of that
Almost as if Microsoft directly copied Apple to make a macbookesque line-up :p
Firefox autocomplete needs to make up its mind. It keeps alternating between completing stackoverflow as stackoverflow.com and stackoverflowteams.com just when I need the one it's not giving me
Countless times I've wanted regular SO and it's given me SOfT
Just now I wanted SOfT and it gave me regular SO
23:51
Meanwhile Chrome used to let me type wiki<tab> in the URL bar to search Wikipedia, but that apparently doesn't work anymore. (On Firefox, Wikipedia works but Wiktionary doesn't.)
You've clearly never banged
what
If you used the duckduckgo web browser extension, you'd know you can search Wikipedia using the !w bang

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