The Nineteenth Byte

emanresu A

00:16

@DLosc Yeah, CGCC is a lot more active than its question count makes it seem

Bubbler

00:53

Lit: 6868 non-deleted questions, post id is at 26k
CGCC: 14k non-deleted questions, post id is at 273k

I'm pretty sure the answer-to-question ratio of CGCC is an absolute outlier

lyxal

keep in mind tag wikis also count as posts

they also increment post id

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/5460

for example

Bubbler

well, we have <=36*8 tags so it doesn't matter much I think?

OldSandboxPosts

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Interpret Gray Snail

Unrelated String

i read that as grav snail for a second and was very intrigued

lyxal

gravity snail

or is it gravy snail?

Unrelated String

01:01

i assumed gravity

Bubbler

time to design a language themed around a snail that can manipulate gravity

lyxal

and can be covered in gravy

emanresu A

What should I do about this suggested edit? On one hand, we have consensus against adding explanations because it doesn't necessarily reflect the author's intent, on the other hand it's an accurate explanation and there aren't really any missed subtleties that I can see

lyxal

reject

not only is the consensus against, the answer saying it's allowed has net -6 score

so the community very clearly thinks it's a no no

it can always be accepted by the original author later

even if it's rejected in review

fun fact: edits approved by the community can be rejected by the original author too

I know this because my answer on the MSE openai collab was edited by someone, approved by the community, and there's a "reject edit" button :p

noodle man

01:31

should there be an exception to somebody updating an explanation to fit a suggestion that they made and was implemented?

lyxal

no, that's up to the original author to do

noodle man

example of that happening

lyxal

obviously you as the original author are allowed to accept or reject edits on your own posts

noodle man

the edit was accepted in review iirc but i wanted to rephrase some things

lyxal

but for reviewing, things like that should be rejected

@noodleman no?

noodle man

01:34

actually i was wrong i approved it by editing, just misremembered

lyxal

ye

lyxal

04:26

currently doing a requirements model for a uni course on project management and one of the features the software solution our group is proposing is a community moderation model

SE experience is finally helping uni rather than the other way around for the first time in years :p

also, mmm visio

love it so much best michaelsoft program

lyxal

04:39

you heard it here first folks. You can only raise flags if you're on a helicopter

Adám

05:02

@lyxal Seems like the obvious way to raise a flag. A ladder doesn't reach high enough up, and an airplane needs to travel faster than comfortable for a flag.

Rydwolf Programs

05:39

Apparently the girl I've been talking about broke up with her boyfriend a while back and since I was so busy and not at work I didn't know

Time for a third round of the two of us talking into late hours of the night, developing a close connection, and having fate tear us apart before we have the nerve to try to be anything but friends? :p

Oh my god I need to get a grip on myself

Someone needs to slap me or something agh I'm instantly delusional

Like BAD

And I leave for college in three months on the other side of the country it would be pointless

But I just

[screams into pillow]

I always thought my roommate was insane for actually screaming into pillows but I legit want to do it

CMSR: Second and Sebring by Of Mice and Men

I have AP Lit tomorrow

I'm waking up in 5.5 hours

Ugh I'm so hopeless lol

lyxal

@RydwolfPrograms *today

@RydwolfPrograms no you're rydwolf programs

l4m2

06:10

/search question `DR`=>`|_`, `UL`=>```
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..|```

Simd

08:14

Why does concurrent.futures exist when there is already multiprocessing?

@noodleman hello!

Sandbox Posts

10:10

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Convert CSV tables to Wikitext Input a CSV table, like this: data00,data01,data02,...,data0m data10,data11,data12,...,data1m ... datan0,datan1,datan2,...,datanm The cells in the CSV table is guaranteed to contain only letters or numbers, and there's no extra whitespace. Your task is to convert i...

Bubbler

@SandboxPosts joke answer: pandas.read_csv(file).to_wikitext(file)

@Simd This looks like a good answer

noodle man

11:36

@Simd i must’ve had TNB open in my computer or something, i got that ping at 4:14 AM.. anyway hello back ig? i don’t have time for a conversation right now though lol

wait no is that 4:14 UTC?

i don’t think it is

mousetail

12:02

Seems imgur images have already been replaced with sstatic in chat

Even though the announcement said "next week"

lyxal

13:04

@mousetail the announcement mentions changing old links

the switch has been made known for a week or so

Simd

13:45

@noodleman hello :)

lyxal

14:17

guess what

SE new feature

StackOverflow jobs just dropped

3

pins go brr

you might need to disable ublock if you use it

mousetail

14:34

It's just indeed with a filter and a skin right?

mousetail

15:03

GCC 14 will error on implicit int variables and undeclared functions Though I assume it won't effect the compatibility mode most golfers use

Seems -std=c89 should restore the old behavior

Thomas Ward

15:21

@Adám still needed or did someone else address it?

Adám

Was addressed. Thanks!

Thomas Ward

yep, sorry I wasn't around when you pinged :)

returns to the lurking

Unrelated String

15:36

@RydwolfPrograms you wound me

~~not that i've ever maintained the pretense that i'm not insane~~

l4m2

16:23

Some fonts convert e.g != into ≠. zhihu.com/question/623421562/answer/3290449763 claims that it can't decide whether a <= is ≤ or ⇐.

mousetail

Those are ligatures

l4m2

遗迹 says it's somehow good because

Unrelated String

ahahahaha

l4m2

zhihu.com/question/623421562/answer/3370460863 (though it use Kotlin as example)

Simd

18:50

CMC Consider an n by n matrix. It has 2n-1 diagonals and going down and right. Given an integer x, output all the coordinates on the xth diagonal

Unrelated String

any particular way solutions have to index the diagonals or does anything go

and do the coordinates have to be in order

Simd

19:18

@UnrelatedString the diagonals should be in order from the top left

The first is (0,0) only

The second (1,0), (0, 1) etc

Unrelated String

wait so are we doing antidiagonals

i thought you said down and right :P

Simd

19:36

@UnrelatedString up and right :)

Unrelated String

ohhh we list the antidiagonals themselves down and right, so the entries are up and right

Simd

Yes!

It should be simple:)

Rydwolf Programs

19:57

> The first person to describe the isolation of this substance (by the distillation of large numbers of ants) was the English naturalist John Ray, in 1671.

Well that's...one way to get your hands on formic acid lmao

Unrelated String

@Simd Jelly, 6 bytes: +þḶ$œẹ (n on left, x on right)

i wanted to use Œd even though it's longer to have to adjust the ordering, but it also does something wacky if i try to table pairs lmao

too dazed to figure out whether it's some kind of 3d matrix interpretation or if it's just vectorizing

though i guess this does list the entries down and left so slap a reverse on the end ig :P

Rydwolf Programs

It's really interesting googling a chemical, looking at the industrial process that's used to make it, looking up those chemicals, and so on. You basically get a tech tree of the modern chemical industry which is really neat

Simd

20:23

@UnrelatedString wow!

@UnrelatedString can you explain the method?

Unrelated String

the intended Œd method was table pairs (i.e. the elements are the indices) then index at an offset (because Œd lists the largest antidiagonal first then goes up to reach the top left corner at index n before wrapping around to the bottom)

the method that actually works is to table

Simd

I wonder what you can do in python

Unrelated String

sums of 0- and 1-indices then just get the multidimensional indices of the sums that are equal to x

@Simd a basic port is just lambda n,x:[(a,b)for a in range(n)for b in range(n)if a+b==x] for 61

can't use a walrus to deduplicate the range :(

Simd

@UnrelatedString that doesn't do all 2*n-1 does it?

Unrelated String

looks fine

Simd

20:33

Oh maybe it does!

Unrelated String

(and the equivalent ṗ2S’eɗƇ is a byte longer because of 1-indexing)

er

port bacjk into jelly

Simd

@UnrelatedString pretty awesome. New challenge is to do it in linear time

Unrelated String

...that might actually be shorter in python come to think of it

Simd

That would be cool!

Unrelated String

lambda n,x:[(a,x-a)for a in range(n)if x>=a>x-n] for 48

Simd

20:54

@UnrelatedString interesting!

emanresu A

... why

Unrelated String

~~you click through from cgcc and it just links you straight to dyalog~~

math scat

21:17

apl should convince SE to do that

DLosc

22:18

@UnrelatedString That's already been done ;)

Unrelated String

:P

lyxal

@emanresuA because reskinned indeed with worse ads!

What's not to love

DLosc

22:43

@RydwolfPrograms I find it particularly interesting when the early stages of a familiar technology were manufactured not from industrial chemicals but from some ordinary substance, such as how an early type of color photography used tiny grains of potato starch, or an early type of plastic was made from milk.

Rydwolf Programs

Working on a spicy new golfing language

Spoiler:

(and before anyone says anything about "flag", it's referring to a flag within the code :p)

This is a really cool concept so far tho

Get exspicyited

lyxal

23:01

Recursion based mechanisms?

With the ability to do so based on types?

Rydwolf Programs

Maybe a bit of that, maybe not, can't necessarily say pairs of contradicting statements where the first in the pair is implied to be the correct one at this point in planning yet though

I will say it has one extremely cool feature that involves modifying built-ins

emanresu A

23:56

Shoutout to this one user on SO who has a famous question badge and precisely 1 rep

Rydwolf Programs

10k views and not a single vote up or down...wow

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